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Post by threegirls on Jul 26, 2015 13:35:51 GMT
Did anyone read the recent Dear Abby column? LINK It's about a daughter-in-law that didn't include many pictures of certain family members in scrapbooks. The mother-in-law is upset. I try my best to include a variety of family (from both sides) but I sometimes feel like the number of photos is a little thin. My side of the family hates to have their picture taken and my husband's side all live out of town. I also try to include photos of people that have influenced the lives of my kids (teachers, tutors, neighbors).
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 26, 2015 13:59:42 GMT
I think all we can do is the best we can with what we have. We don't see many of our extended family very often either, so there won't be all that many photos of them in my scrapbooks simply because I don't have the photos to use.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jul 26, 2015 14:32:05 GMT
I kinda have the other problem, there's not many pics of me in my kids/grandkids albums! I try to include pics of everyone in my layouts, but since I'm the one taking the pics, I'm not in them.
Am trying to get more pics of myself with them to scrap from now on.
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Post by lonr on Jul 26, 2015 15:30:09 GMT
It looks like the resentment started earlier and possibly even elsewhere, though I understand her feelings.
Our family lives close enough that we spend time with both grandparents. I take substantially less pictures at my in-laws. I really didn't want this to make it look like I love my in-laws less. I certainly don't! I won the lottery when it came to in-laws!
So I evaluated. Was it because we go there second and there are less gifts passed around? (They leave the gifts for the kids to open Christmas Morning) Am I too busy chatting? Less "kodak moments"?
I think yes to the first 2. I have tried to compensate by taking more photos during our other visits. It really helps that my MIL emails her pictures she has taken to me and I return the favor.
I think it would be too much pressure and too forced to try to keep things even. Anyone keep a chart to do so? Lol I do for my kids LOs.
Another thought, what if this was your scrapbooks and this is your MIL? Perhaps you could Scrap those pictures you have of them and add them in. Give photo gifts to her for the next several holidays. And apologize sincerely!
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Post by jamh on Jul 26, 2015 18:19:44 GMT
After reading what the Grandma has done for the kids on a daily/monthy basis coupled with the fact that the DIL is a scrapper with a nice camera, I say Grandma is a wonderful MIL who has a right to feel left-out.
Grandma got some good advice on-line about taking pics of the kids with her, adding some family heritage photos, info,etc., and making her own scrapbooks for them.
jamh
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Post by rainangel on Jul 26, 2015 18:39:23 GMT
I kinda have the other problem, there's not many pics of me in my kids/grandkids albums! I try to include pics of everyone in my layouts, but since I'm the one taking the pics, I'm not in them. Am trying to get more pics of myself with them to scrap from now on. This is me also. I have to make a conscious effort to include myself in pictures. There are a few years in the kids' lives that it lookes like I went on permanent vacation judging by the pictures. My father was the same. A hobby photographer never gets much cameratime himself. Maybe I am a bit haphazard and random in my scrapping, but I will usually make a page with the pictures I have on hand. A few times a year I will get a new batch of pictures printed, but I haven't even considered that I have to include 'everyone'! My scrapbooks are mainly for my children to see, so it's mostly about them. ETA: It does seem odd to completely ignore one side of the family in 'memory books', and include the other side. I pretty much ignore everyone and only have 'memory books' with pictures of the kids (I am not sure if I like the term 'memory books', I have never used that as a way to describe what I do. But it does describe it pretty well. I just call the albums or scrapbooks)
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 26, 2015 20:20:03 GMT
My MIL babysat everyone else's kids but mine. She visited rarely and was not very nice to me. She is in a couple of pictures every year, but probably not like most grandmas would/should be. She wasn't around, she wasn't very nice, she's not in many pictures. To be fair, no one other than immediate family is in many pictures because we didn't see family that often so no one probably even notices. One year at my husband's family reunion I took over 400 pictures. There were over 100 people at this three day event. Every single person and event was included. I picked out the best 150 ish pictures and edited them. I made six cd's for different families and mailed them to them the next month. One sister said thank you. It made me feel like I wasn't appreciated. I haven't done it since and if I didn't attend a reunion the only thing people ask is who is going to make a cd. Ugh.
I do feel badly for this grandma though. It sounds like she has good reasons to feel the way she does.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 26, 2015 20:28:25 GMT
I try to include both sides, but honestly, we don't see DH's siblings much. We see MIL every week to take to church, but she makes no effort to see the our grandchildren when they are in town. We are lucky to get one picture per year of her with her great-grandchildren.
I do make her a year-in-review photobook every year that I know she likes.
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Post by gramma on Jul 26, 2015 21:33:30 GMT
We have 3 adult children who all live within 10 miles of us. Among them we have 7 grandkids. Two of the families make sure we know when the kids have sporting events and such. They include us in holidays, birthdays and "just because" days. The other one rarely attends anything or includes us. His wife does not like his siblings and has little use for me. Needless to say there are very few pages of them. Makes me sad.
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Post by mama2three on Jul 27, 2015 2:06:28 GMT
I kinda have the other problem, there's not many pics of me in my kids/grandkids albums! I try to include pics of everyone in my layouts, but since I'm the one taking the pics, I'm not in them. Am trying to get more pics of myself with them to scrap from now on. Same with me. I take nearly all the family pictures,plus I hate getting my picture taken or having to look at pictures of myself, so there are very few pictures of me at all and fewer still in the albums (because I don't scrap pictures of me). there are the wedding pics and pics of me holding my kids as babies, but after that, there are very few pictures I'm in.
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Post by jamh on Jul 27, 2015 13:49:51 GMT
If you are the one taking the pics, a tripod is your new best friend! They are cheap, and I use the built-in timer on my great(but cheap)camera. Everybody gets to be in the photos!
jamh
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Post by gigi333 on Jul 27, 2015 19:38:09 GMT
Sometimes I think working moms like to gloss over how much other people do because they wish it was them doing it
I can understand the grandma feeling so sad about that. It sucks, I would pay so much money if a scrapbook containing my life with both sets of my grandparents could be bought.that would be so incredibly valuable to me now
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Post by lancermom on Jul 28, 2015 2:50:24 GMT
My mom hardly took pictures of us growing up. Even now she has four years worth of pics on the card that is in her camera. They are late to events, or leave early. So not a lot from my parents. My MIL scraps, she she finds reasons to take pics. My grandma was pretty upset when she saw my albums. But couldn't say much when my whole family left during baptism pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 3:55:29 GMT
I gotta be honest, I rarely take (and even more rarely scrap) any pics of my kids with my MIL. She is just...ugh...a piece of work. Her own siblings and mother, her daughter, and her grown grandchildren all have very little to do with her. We allowed her in our lives and our kid's lives for 6 years, with one problem after another. Finally recently we said screw it, you're out. It makes me feel bad for my kids to not have their grandma in their life, but it can't be helped right now. But even when she was around, I didn't scrap pages with her. I'm the one scrapping, and I don't like her. I'm sorry, but it's hard to do a page with photos of someone you can hardly stand.
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Post by gramma on Jul 28, 2015 16:28:57 GMT
I gotta be honest, I rarely take (and even more rarely scrap) any pics of my kids with my MIL. She is just...ugh...a piece of work. Her own siblings and mother, her daughter, and her grown grandchildren all have very little to do with her. We allowed her in our lives and our kid's lives for 6 years, with one problem after another. Finally recently we said screw it, you're out. It makes me feel bad for my kids to not have their grandma in their life, but it can't be helped right now. But even when she was around, I didn't scrap pages with her. I'm the one scrapping, and I don't like her. I'm sorry, but it's hard to do a page with photos of someone you can hardly stand.I totally get that - my son went through an ugly ugly divorce 3 years ago. Since I am so far behind in scrapping I found myself scrapping pictures with the ex-DIL in them. For a long time I could not make myself do it so I did not scrap at all. Now when I do them I keep telling myself "It's the boys' lives - It's the boys' lives - Not yours, Gramma, not yours" Those pictures break my heart every time I handle them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 18:36:59 GMT
[quote author=" gramma" source="/post/688902/thread" timestamp="1438100937" Now when I do them I keep telling myself "It's the boys' lives - It's the boys' lives - Not yours, Gramma, not yours" Those pictures break my heart every time I handle them. [/quote] I get that, I do. BUT, it's my scrapbook and my time. I don't make the scrapbooks for my kids or my MIL. I make them for me. Because I enjoy creating. Because I enjoy looking through them. I don't want to scrap pages that to don't enjoy. I know it's somewhat selfish, but to me it's no different that telling readers that they have to read a certain book even if it's not their genre, or telling a sportsman that he had to learn ballet because it's considered a sport. It's my hobby and what I choose to do for fun...so I'm selfish about it. (By the way, totally not directing that entire statement at you!! just started replying to your comment and got sidetracked lol.)
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Post by anonrefugee on Jul 28, 2015 23:25:02 GMT
I kinda have the other problem, there's not many pics of me in my kids/grandkids albums! I try to include pics of everyone in my layouts, but since I'm the one taking the pics, I'm not in them. Am trying to get more pics of myself with them to scrap from now on. This must have resonated with me, I liked/unlinked it several times, sorry There's one entire year I am not in any of our family photos. It makes me so sad! I know my parents visited us, someday I intend to pilfer my moms albums for copies. It also angers me, I took thousands of photos of my DH making sure he looked good. I asked him to do the same, but he never got around to it at the time and (at the time) it seemed vain to keep brining it up. Probably TMI- but please take it as a lesson if you have little kids. Get your photo too, even if you're sure you're "fat" or too busy to comb your hair.
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Post by abr79 on Jul 28, 2015 23:46:53 GMT
Interesting. Based on what I'm reading from this, the DIL takes photos with the grandma but just doesn't include them in her albums. And if it's true at how much stuff she does to help out the DIL with the kids, it is kinda crappy she's not in any of the albums. Personally, I don't have many photos of either sets of my son's grandparents in my albums. But not for a lack of trying...but none of them are really cooperative about it. Also, anonrefugee I completely agree with you. Get in the photos you take of your kids. Even if it's a selfie.
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Post by jamh on Jul 29, 2015 13:34:21 GMT
One more time...a tripod is your new best friend.
jamh
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Post by loco coco on Jul 29, 2015 15:16:40 GMT
that is weird especially since she is so involved in the kids lives. When the kids look back at those I wonder if they will ask their mom about it, I would. Why isnt so and so in any of these??
I wish I had more pictures of me with my mom and my grandma but they were the ones always taking the photos, those are the pictures/memories I would cherish, not reading about what I did that day for a random scrapbook page.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 3, 2015 13:45:46 GMT
I never leave my mom that I don't grab a quick photo of me and her together. I am unwilling to have a time come when I didn't take the opportunity and then she's gone from my life.
I do feel badly for the grandmother in that Dear Abby column. I only scrap for my boys to eventually have the albums so I take every opportunity to include family and friends in the books.
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Post by guzismom on Aug 3, 2015 19:42:23 GMT
Reconsidered my answer after reading the actual letter....
I like Abby's answer!
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Post by doesitmatter on Aug 4, 2015 3:11:56 GMT
I try to include everyone that spends time with my kids in their books. Wait - except for me! Cus I am always behind the lens...should work on that!
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