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Post by shawallapea on Jul 26, 2015 16:38:12 GMT
*** UPDATE ***
I just wanted to thank everyone for their advice and tips regarding our train trip! We had a great time and other than an unexpected parking situation at the station everything went incredibly smooth. Our departure was delayed by 1 hour but I signed up to get texts of delays so no surprise there. I loved how roomy the seating was, the view was awesome and the pace so relaxing. We definitely had electrical outlets for charging as well. The train is not the way to get somewhere fast but it's way to do it in style! My boys really enjoyed it as well. I'm already planning a leg of the Southwest Chief for next year :-)
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I am taking my boys (ages 16 and 12) on a trip to Seattle to visit family. Instead of driving the car up there which I've done a million times I decided to take the train like I did with my grandma when I was 6 years old. I've always loved trains! I have already purchased my tickets and have a few questions for someone seasoned or semi-seasoned in Amtrak travel.
1) Check baggage or carry on? I've done a lot of train travel and almost always carry on my luggage. I know how to pack light! There would be three carry on sized pieces of luggage and a couple of totes. However, I'd prefer not to have the hassle of finding a place to stow the luggage (I usually have the luxury of ala carte during airplane travel). Any thoughts?
2) Dining car? Horribly expensive? Gross food? Something that should be experienced since we're doing it? Can we bring our own food in a small cooler tote?
3) Charging outlets for electrical devices? Are they available or shall I plan an alternative?
Anything else I should know? We're taking off from a relatively small station going to a large and visa versa on the return.
TIA :-)
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Post by moveablefeast on Jul 26, 2015 16:44:47 GMT
The dining car depends on the route. It's all expensive. But you will have better choices on long routes vs regional routes. I took a train from DC to Chicago and there were real entrees - here to NY it's microwave hamburgers and chips.
I've never checked baggage because I'm always taking shorter trips with all my stuff in a small bag - so I'm no help on that one.
The trains I have taken for the last 10 years or so have power at the seat. I usually take commuter routes so having a personal power bank might not be a bad choice. I always travel with one - they're cheap now.
I will often pick the train if I have the option. It can get long though. Here to Savannah is 8 hours and that's about my limit.
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Post by Prenticekid on Jul 26, 2015 16:48:22 GMT
I always carry on - I just put the weekender above my seat and my tote under my legs after I adjust footrest.
I never use the dining cart, I just bring a couple of snacks and bottled water. However, my trip is only about 10-12 hours.
There are outlets.
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Post by shawallapea on Jul 26, 2015 17:00:17 GMT
Do either of you find trouble finding room for your carry on suitcase? Our trip is about 7.5 hours. Coast Starlight from Eugene, OR to Seattle, WA. I'll bring personal battery back up as well just in case. I have to entertain two boys for quite a while lol.
I appreciate all the feedback!
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 26, 2015 18:11:28 GMT
I haven't done your trip, but we took the train from DC to NYC over spring break. I don't recall an option to check my luggage, but the porter may have done that. There were racks on each end of each train car and you could put your luggage there. There were also racks over our heads.
I didn't use the dining car, but DH did to get coffee. The kids also went, but came back with just chips. Yes, it was expensive. But I know they loaded more food on in Baltimore. We left DC at about 7:30 am and arrived in NYC about 12:30 pm, so we just got lunch at Grand Central. I did have snacks on the train and we ate breakfast before we left.
There was an outlet for each set on the wall of the car. So the person in the aisle seat ideally could have a longer cord to make the reach. There was wifi on the train, but it wasn't that fast. I wouldn't try streaming anything. It did shut off while they changed engine cars in Baltimore.
On the way back from NYC, it was a beautiful day--warmer than forecasted. But evidently the thermostat is set at a central location. The porter said that they had to shut the system down to change the settings. Several of us requested this to be done and she did it happily. I think she was warm too, but a passenger has to request the change. It took about 10 minutes and the fans were up and running again with cool air. So I'd suggest dressing in layers.
They did check tickets. We got on at a small stop south of DC. He checked our tickets and put a slip of colored paper above our seats. The tickets were checked again in DC and then again after Baltimore. The porter was changed out in Baltimore, too. Same thing on the way back.
It was a pretty slow trip and sort of bumpy. But we were on the regular train, as the express train was another $150 per ticket, IIRC. It was still easier than driving and gave DH a nice break (he does most of the driving.) It had been a busy spring and I wanted a nice, easy going trip before DS goes off to school in the fall.
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Post by Nink on Jul 26, 2015 20:11:05 GMT
I've taken the coast starlight many, many times from Los Angeles to Eugene and back. The dining car is expensive, but the food isn't bad. Fun to do once to say you did it. You can bring as many snacks/drinks with you as you like as long as it is within your carry on limit. Maybe give each kid a cooler. I always checked my bags. They have places on the lower level to stow your bags in a rack, but I just checked them anyway and brought a small carry on with me with a change of clothes.
It's been a few years since I took it. But back then the electrical outlets were few and far between. There were two rows in each car that had a charger right there. Those seats were popular.
I would also recommend bringing a lightweight blanket. The trips I took were 24 hours so I would spend the night on the train and the first time, I about froze to death. They do not provide blankets and the cars were pretty cold.
Have fun.
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Post by birdy on Jul 26, 2015 20:18:05 GMT
Never been on a train trip, so I have no advice. It's something I'd love to do someday. Have fun!
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Post by likescarrots on Jul 26, 2015 21:13:39 GMT
The trains I've been on have had power outlets at most seats. Just to warn you, the last amtrak trip I took, the internet connection was so slow I couldn't use it at all, so bring some entertainment that doesn't require the internet! I've only ever brought a carry-on so I don't have any advice checking bags, and I've never eaten in a dining car, I always pack my own food.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 26, 2015 21:20:43 GMT
I've taken the train twice, both trips were about 5ish hours. One to Toronto I don't think had a dining car, we just brought our own snacks and a pop. The train to Chicago had a dining car but we brought sub sandwiches with us. I believe we bought a pop and chips tho. Please don't take KFC like one other passenger did, it smelled up the whole car. Plus she kept sucking her teeth the whole rest of the way. That was about 20 years ago and we still laugh about her, with sound effects.
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 26, 2015 21:42:38 GMT
1) Check baggage or carry on? I've done a lot of train travel and almost always carry on my luggage. I know how to pack light! There would be three carry on sized pieces of luggage and a couple of totes. However, I'd prefer not to have the hassle of finding a place to stow the luggage (I usually have the luxury of ala carte during airplane travel). Any thoughts?
You may not be able to check your bags if you are leaving from/arriving to a small station. Not all stops offer checked baggage. It's easy to carry it on. You toss your bigger bag in the baggage area of your car and carry your smaller bag with you and store above your seat.
2) Dining car? Horribly expensive? Gross food? Something that should be experienced since we're doing it? Can we bring our own food in a small cooler tote?
I really don't think it is horribly expensive. It is not 4 star good, but I have actually had some great meals on AMTRAK. Breakfast is usually pretty good. I am assuming you are coach? You will have to get a reservation for the dining car. If you are sleeper passenger, your meals are included. There is also the cafe car and it has a snack bar below that you can get microwave hot dogs and sandwiches, coffee, soft drinks, etc. The food there is not great.
3) Charging outlets for electrical devices? Are they available or shall I plan an alternative?
The trains have slowly added more outlets. It is very likely you will have an outlet -but no guarantee. It will be a plug in outlet, not USB, so make sure you have that type of adapter with you. You can bring a short extension cord with a couple plug in ends on it to make sure you can all charge, because there are a limited amount of outlets.
Anything else I should know? We're taking off from a relatively small station going to a large and visa versa on the return.
There is relatively no security checks. You will probably need to show your drivers license at the ticket counter, but that is it.
I am not sure how full your train is, or if you are departing from an early part of the route, or later down the line - but some trains run really full. While your ticket guarantees you your seats - it does not guarantee that your seats are together. It is possible to even be stuck in different cars if that train is full when you get on. More than likely you will be in the same car, but if it is full, you won't be sitting together.
The seats are comfortable and MUCH more roomy than airplanes or buses. When you get on, you will place your seat check number in the metal strip above your seat. If you see pieces of paper above seats - those seats are taken.
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Post by shawallapea on Jul 27, 2015 19:12:22 GMT
Thanks again for all the great points! I hadn't thought about the train being full :-p If that's going to be an issue it will happen on the way to Seattle as Eugene is about 3/4 along on the route. I'll have to make sure the younger boy and I sit together. The 16 year old will be fine in another area if we need to.
I checked and our beginning station does offer checked baggage ... I think I'll do that since I'm not changing trains at all.
I'm so excited!
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Post by ntsf on Jul 27, 2015 19:25:35 GMT
be prepared to be late. amtrak can be one or two or 8 hours late...so make arrangements on the end of the trip that are flexible.
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Post by not2peased on Jul 28, 2015 0:03:52 GMT
I am taking my boys (ages 16 and 12) on a trip to Seattle to visit family. Instead of driving the car up there which I've done a million times I decided to take the train like I did with my grandma when I was 6 years old. I've always loved trains! I have already purchased my tickets and have a few questions for someone seasoned or semi-seasoned in Amtrak travel. 1) Check baggage or carry on? I've done a lot of train travel and almost always carry on my luggage. I know how to pack light! There would be three carry on sized pieces of luggage and a couple of totes. However, I'd prefer not to have the hassle of finding a place to stow the luggage (I usually have the luxury of ala carte during airplane travel). Any thoughts? 2) Dining car? Horribly expensive? Gross food? Something that should be experienced since we're doing it? Can we bring our own food in a small cooler tote? 3) Charging outlets for electrical devices? Are they available or shall I plan an alternative? Anything else I should know? We're taking off from a relatively small station going to a large and visa versa on the return. TIA :-) what a cool trip to take your boys on! mine would have loved something like that this will definitely create some great memories for all of you.
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Post by txdancermom on Jul 28, 2015 1:21:28 GMT
I did NYC to DC last spring, there was room for carry-ons in the car and there were power outlets by the seats (I was in business class)
didn't make it to the dining car, but I would guess it was pricy.
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Post by MsChiff on Jul 28, 2015 1:54:21 GMT
I take the train fairly often from NYC to central NY state. Every train I've been on in the last few years has had one outlet per seat. However, I've been in cars where the outlets on one whole side of the train did not work, so be prepared. If your train has wifi, it may be slow and it may be intermittent. If you will be using sound on your devices, be sure you have headphones/earphones.
The seats have tray tables that fold down, and a reading light.
You can check on Amtrak.com to see whether your train has wifi, a cafe car and/or a dining car.
As stated above, don't be surprised if your train is late departing and/or arriving at your destination.
Yes, you can take your cooler tote. If it's big enough, I'd fill a ziploc with ice; it will help keep your food cold and you can use the ice for drinks if you take cups. You can also get ice from the cafe car. I think the cafe car cannot heat food that you carry on. On one trip, the girl that sat with me brought a salad and a bottle of wine to drink. Be thoughtful; this is not the time for super smelly food! Also, there are several tables in the cafe car. You may be able to use a table in the cafe car if the three of you want to eat together, but sometimes people camp out at the tables (instead of using their seats) for the majority of the trip.
On the trains I've been on, every car has 2 bathrooms. If the bathrooms on your car are nasty (they can be, especially at the end of a longer line), use the bathrooms in another car. I'd also take a roll of TP (In case the bathroom runs out), some tissues, napkins and antibacterial gel.
If there are no seats for you and your son, ask the conductor if there is anything they can do. I've seen them ask people to move in such situations. I've also volunteered to move when I've seen parties of 2.
Enjoy your trip!
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 28, 2015 2:02:12 GMT
be prepared to be late. amtrak can be one or two or 8 hours late...so make arrangements on the end of the trip that are flexible. You will make friends with Julie from AMTRAK... LOL She is the automated operator you get when you call the toll free AMTRAK number to check on the status of your train. Look up your train number and you can check the status. Their might even be an app now that would work better. I did NYC to DC last spring, there was room for carry-ons in the car and there were power outlets by the seats (I was in business class) didn't make it to the dining car, but I would guess it was pricy. Trains that run the NE Corridor are very different than the trains that are in the rest of the US. The train she will be on is a Superliner. There is no "business class" and the outlet situations are very different. Much better than they were even just a few years ago though.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jul 28, 2015 2:18:17 GMT
DS and I took the train to Portland a few years back, from Los Angeles.
We had a roomette, which included all meals in the dining car. The food was great, for transportation food. We carried bags on for the outbound trip, not knowing we could check. We checked on the return, but ended up waiting two hours for them when we got back. HUGE bummer.
Our roomette had outlets, but no wifi. Things might have changed in the interim, but it was a bummer at the time. We usually could get some connection when we were in the stations.
I would not take an overnight trip without a roomette or suite. It added to the expense considerably, but it was an awesome part of the venture.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 28, 2015 3:30:53 GMT
I've taken the train from Chicago to St Louis and to Kansas City a few times. Probably not any faster than by car but I did it when kids were younger so it made it easier. No having to make bathroom stops and kids loved snack car (sandwiches and chips etc) were they could play cards/games at table. And they made instant best friends that kept them busy along the way. The one time their new best buds were on the return trip, too. Win, win for all parents. It was a fun adventure for them.
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Post by shawallapea on Jul 29, 2015 3:01:43 GMT
You ladies are awesome!
There is an Amtrak App out which I will definitely be downloading and giving a trial spin.
Love the idea to talk to the conductor! I keep thinking of the I Love Lucy episode where Lucy keeps pulling the emergency brake and the conductor gets soooo mad ... and Fred and Ethel always end up with their dinner on their clothes lol.
Thankfully my pick up at the end is my very flexible and loving aunt and uncle!
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Post by shawallapea on Aug 15, 2015 14:15:35 GMT
Update in OP :-)
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Post by iowgirl on Aug 15, 2015 14:35:04 GMT
So glad you enjoyed it and it was a positive experience. I hesitate to recommend trips on AMTRAK, because people often don't have the best experience - or are expecting something way different (luxury of the Orient Express maybe? LOL )
The California Zephyr has some amazing scenery through Colorado.
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Post by leeny on Aug 15, 2015 16:16:07 GMT
Glad to hear back. We are considering doing the train to Seattle from Northern California in September.
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