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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:54:42 GMT
How much leeway are you willing to give them on prices? I get that LSS can't compete on price w big box stores and deal websites. LSS generally offer far more hands-on service and classes and whatnot.
I love a good indie store...but I was in a new one (new to me) on Thursday and the prices seemed significantly more than suggested retail. It kinda stunned me.
Examples: Tim Holtz for Stamper's Anonymous set of four stamps on the sheet for the binder was $24.39. I have purchased them for $21.99 at Simon Says Stamp and my local stamp store.
The Teresa Collins Hello my Name Is 4-pack of Washi Tape was $8.29. It is available online for $5.99. The 8x8 pad of paper from the same line was $10.99. i can't remember the retail of it.
The Teresa Collins Wanderlust decorative sticker sheet was $2.79 and is only 3"x4". It's $1.99 online. Label stickers in the matchbook were $3.79, when they are $2.99 online.
]It got me to thinking...how much do I want to "support the local stores"?
Sales tax is 8 percent. There's the cost of gas, which in this case was negligible because I was going to the airport to pick up my husband, and the store was on the way.
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Post by abr79 on Aug 3, 2015 15:21:34 GMT
I expect them to be a bit more than if I go to Hobby Lobby, Michael's or JoAnn...but not too much higher...I'll accept a 5% increase without too much hesitation but any more and then I do start looking at my other options. When I compare to prices online, I make sure to include shipping into the cost...a piece might be a buck or two cheaper on ACOT but shipping is going to increase the overall cost of the item.
My LSS has pretty good prices, IMO - they are in line with Scrapbook.com or ACOT and sometimes a bit cheaper (plus, no shipping, so a win for me as I have the items in my hot little hands right then and there). The drawback to my LSS is that they are pretty picky at what lines they carry, so not everything is available. And they can't always order everything. I was looking for some Crate Paper - their Poolside line - and the owner decided not to order it for some reason so that was a bummer. I don't go there as often as I could for that reason.
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Post by basketdiva on Aug 3, 2015 15:38:02 GMT
I figure in shipping when I'm comparing prices. At Simon Says, shipping is $6.99 for orders under $75. I don't always have enough items that I want to justify spending $75 so the LSS price is resonable to me. .
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 3, 2015 16:35:10 GMT
My LSS is almost always 50 cents higher for anything up to $4.99. Above that gets higher, but everything I purchase is usually pretty close in range or I just get it elsewhere. That store would frustrate me.
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Post by guzismom on Aug 3, 2015 16:59:36 GMT
I honestly don't look at the prices when buying scrapbook supplies, with rare exceptions (like larger tools). If I like something enough, I get it. I don't have a LSS, so when I come across one in my travels, shopping there is a rare treat.
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Post by craftykitten on Aug 3, 2015 17:32:58 GMT
My parents run a small craft shop here in the UK, and I have always been surprised by the RRPs of the things they sell. It seems like almost every other retailer must be taking a big hit and selling for much less than the RRP. The RRP is also often a random price, not a nice round number, so my parents will often have to 'round down' to make it a sensible-sounding price.
The prices in your original post sound like they are the recommended retail prices for those items.
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Post by cannmom on Aug 3, 2015 21:01:31 GMT
I don't have the opportunity to shop at real scrap stores often. If I like something I buy it unless the price is just outrageous. I probably wouldn't know what the item was priced at on-line beforehand to be able to compare. So, I like I buy and enjoy instant gratification.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 3, 2015 21:38:07 GMT
We still have 2 LSS in the county. One really isn't that local to me, but it is very close to the airport so I will stop in if I'm in the area. I'm mostly buying stamps & dies these days and was a little irked when they increased the $15 stamps sets to $15.50. I don't make a special trip and the $.50 isn't enough of a deal breaker to make me stop going when in the area and buying.
I was in the second store last week and they have increased their prices a little over 12% since my last visit, so the $15 stamp set is now $16.89. Because I can almost always get free shipping, their price difference is high enough to make me shop online.
I love touching & seeing product, so do want to support local stores but if they are more than 5% about the MSRP it has to be something I really want NOW and can't find elsewhere.
The price difference on the washi tape you quoted is insane.
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Post by anniefb on Aug 3, 2015 21:43:21 GMT
I do expect to pay more at a LSS but how much more would probably depend on the product and what shipping costs would be online.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 0:05:16 GMT
My parents run a small craft shop here in the UK, and I have always been surprised by the RRPs of the things they sell. It seems like almost every other retailer must be taking a big hit and selling for much less than the RRP. The RRP is also often a random price, not a nice round number, so my parents will often have to 'round down' to make it a sensible-sounding price. The prices in your original post sound like they are the recommended retail prices for those items. Here we have MSRP which stands for manufacturer's suggested retail price. It's a a suggestion not law but I think most places stick to it. The prices in the store mentioned were definitely over the MSRP.
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Post by scrapandsee on Aug 4, 2015 4:01:43 GMT
I will do up to 15% more at LSS just to keep her in business cuz I love being able to see product.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 5, 2015 5:16:20 GMT
I'm willing to pay somewhat more but not crazy more prices like you quoted in the OP. As a former retailer myself, I get it that they have all kinds of hidden overhead. But they also have to get it that there are other places to shop and that they need to at least try to be competitive.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Aug 5, 2015 8:58:22 GMT
I am an International customer, used to paying crazy shipping plus taking a hit on currency conversion. I am not price sensitive when it comes to brand new stuff, say CHA stuff two to three months after the show. I place my orders with one of the stores I like as I see the manu's catalogues and ask them to track it down as it becomes available. If they get it in with a minimum of hassle and keep me informed I will pay full price. I support them rather than deal with the hassle of customs and so on. If I get indifferent service I vote with my credit card. I usually pay a 50% deposit if it is not something they would ordinarily stock. I have learned who not to trust . The one line I draw is I don't support entitled owners who buy only what suits their own scrapping style, overprice it, skimp on supplies in their kits then let the stuff sit on their shelves at full price, moaning that I don't support them.
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Post by saralovesducks on Aug 5, 2015 11:13:38 GMT
My LSS is super inconsistent with pricing so it would depend on the item. Most things are very reasonably priced, but the store and the selection are very small :/ You can't have it all I guess
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Post by doglover on Aug 5, 2015 12:28:47 GMT
I would give quite a bit of leeway. Shopping in person saves me money because I can make sure I like the item before I buy it.
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Post by pelirroja on Aug 5, 2015 12:36:32 GMT
Since I only have access to one LSS, I pretty much pick what I want and ignore what the price is. I don't buy things there that I can readily get at a big box (like adhesives) and luckily my LSS carries lots of stuff I couldn't get without placing an online order. They specialize in Doodlebug, Bella Blvd, Graphic 45 and KaiserCraft. The partners that run the store are a great team: one is a scrapper and one is a businessperson so they've got good product and (so far) they seem to be in it for the long haul. They have been in business since 1996 so they really seem to have a solid business model. We used to have 7 LSS in our small state, now they are the only LSS left: all the others are gone.
Lately, they seem to have shifted more towards classes, Copics and coloring so time will tell if their shift away from scrapbooking is working out for them (I'm sure it will). I really like their tiny treasure of a store. They downsized their square footage but the store is laid out so well it is still packed with lots of goodies. Although I don't spend much on scrapping anymore (I've been using the stash for quite some time), they get my scrap dollars when I feel in the mood for some eye candy and inspiration.
I go for the stuff I can't find elsewhere so the price is pretty much irrelevant. It's more of a "yes or no" decision.
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Post by scrapperal on Aug 5, 2015 15:14:06 GMT
I won't pay more than 5 or 10% over MSRP, unless it is something "rare" that I haven't seen before or may be difficult to find. Sales tax is high in my area, which is another reason I don't want to pay inflated prices.
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Post by LisaDV on Aug 5, 2015 20:26:56 GMT
I don't have a lss that has anything I would want to buy. So this is from past experience, I would have given them anywhere up to 15% leeway, but only on paper and embellishments that I really need to see and/or feel in person. You can't get name brand lines at the box stores and if you just want a few sheets here and there, then shipping wouldn't be worth it on-line.
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Post by doesitmatter on Aug 5, 2015 21:34:55 GMT
How much leeway are you willing to give them on prices? I get that LSS can't compete on price w big box stores and deal websites. LSS generally offer far more hands-on service and classes and whatnot. I love a good indie store...but I was in a new one (new to me) on Thursday and the prices seemed significantly more than suggested retail. It kinda stunned me. Examples: Tim Holtz for Stamper's Anonymous set of four stamps on the sheet for the binder was $24.39. I have purchased them for $21.99 at Simon Says Stamp and my local stamp store. The Teresa Collins Hello my Name Is 4-pack of Washi Tape was $8.29. It is available online for $5.99. The 8x8 pad of paper from the same line was $10.99. i can't remember the retail of it. The Teresa Collins Wanderlust decorative sticker sheet was $2.79 and is only 3"x4". It's $1.99 online. Label stickers in the matchbook were $3.79, when they are $2.99 online. ]It got me to thinking...how much do I want to "support the local stores"? Sales tax is 8 percent. There's the cost of gas, which in this case was negligible because I was going to the airport to pick up my husband, and the store was on the way. I think most of the prices you are describing are about right for a local store. Yes I can get things online cheaper, maybe even free shiping, but supporting local businesses in my rrual area are important and I expect a small markup as you have listed. Would I pay double? No. But most of the prices you listed were a modest markup which probably reflects the lack of a large order volume discount a local store misses out on compared to big box and online retailers. I try to support local businesses when I can.
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Post by alittleintrepid on Aug 5, 2015 23:16:54 GMT
I'm currently wearing a T-shirt that says "Support your local mom and pop". (Tragically, I bought it online.) I really try to support local business and would especially try to support a local business that I want to stick around. We no longer have a local LSS and I miss the opportunity to see good stuff in person so I'd suck it up for a modest markup on relatively inexpensive items. If I buy online, I also have to factor in shipping and duty so I'd consider that cost too.
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Post by thatmarie on Aug 5, 2015 23:51:32 GMT
Instant gratification often gets me and i will pay a bit more than i should
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scrappington
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Post by scrappington on Aug 6, 2015 0:13:57 GMT
Instant gratification is hard to sometimes put a price on.
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