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Post by knit.pea on Aug 11, 2015 0:03:50 GMT
Has her child custody case been discussed here? I didn't find it in a Search.
People magazine article
This has gone on for years, back and forth. Still don't get why her ex doesn't get his Visa, etc. straightened out. Seems like he clearly only wants the kids with him in Monaco. I feel bad for her. And it sounds like she, out of desperation, has decided to really put her foot down. |
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Post by tduby1 on Aug 11, 2015 0:12:07 GMT
I don't get it? We're they born in the US? If so, why were they sent to Monaco for the majority u of the time in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 0:13:07 GMT
I cannot blame her for defying court orders. The whole thing is a mess. Who exactly has jurisdiction in a case like this? It seems like she has inferred her kids are not being taken care of by their father so she feels like they should be with a parent who is actually present.
I mainly feel bad for the kids.
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Post by marimoose on Aug 11, 2015 0:26:45 GMT
There seemed to be no good reason to send those children to live with their dad outside the US just because he didn't have his Visa up to date. It seems that should have fallen on him to fix, not to punish the other parent. the judge said she could afford to travel back and forth and he didn't have those same abilities. Wrong, wrong, wrong! And even worse is that no state in the US is willing to stand behind three US citizens. I know there can be more to the story but I sure haven't heard any and have been "following" this story for the past few years. Based on what I have read, I would have done the same thing that she did in a heartbeat. If I were her I would go into hiding just too prevent someone "stealing" the kids away to Monaco.
She needs a better lawyer.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Aug 11, 2015 0:31:13 GMT
I only recently started read stuff about this. Apparently the judge in Monaco gave them shared custody but said they had to live in Monaco because supposedly when she made the US aware that he had done something to violate the rules of his Visa she made it impossible for him to see the kids if they live here. So since she is free to travel to Monaco and he can't come here the judge decided they needed to be there.
ETA I don't think that's a good reason to separate her from her kids but they are saying it's because she reported him so she could cut him out of his kids lives not because she thought it was her duty as a citizen to report him for doing something wrong. |
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Post by mzza111 on Aug 11, 2015 0:55:43 GMT
This story is unbelievable! How, in the year 2015, can two U.S. Citizens be basically deported? I don't care if they are minors, the are U.S. Citizens!
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 0:57:05 GMT
Bluepoprocks is correct. Kelly got divorced while pregnant and refused to put the fathers name on the birth certificate even though a judge repeatedly told her to. Then she reported to the custody judge that her ex was trafficking drugs to South Africa to get him deported. That accusation was never proven. He's a successful German businessman with his own company. So she plotted to get him deported and it back fired on her. The judge said since her actions are not in favor of coparenting, he will get the kids and he has to pay for her to fly to see them 6 times a year. He obviously can't visit the kids in a country he was deported from so the judge really had no choice. We never hear his side of the story in the press, just that of the pretty white woman who naturally garners sympathy.
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Post by knit.pea on Aug 11, 2015 1:04:42 GMT
I am guessing the truth is somewhere inbetween.
I really doubt just one of them is behind this mess.
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Post by scrapgirl on Aug 11, 2015 1:06:51 GMT
I too have heard the story that she reported her ex so that his visa would be revoked when she was angry during the divorce. But, I do not know if that is 100% true or not. This seems like a horrid situation all around, and just reinforces that you need to think long and hard before having children with someone with a foreign nationality. Yes, the children are US citizens, but they are also citizens of the Father's country. (Although it seems in this case that he is not living in the country of his nationality, correct? I think he is German?) Anyways, I do feel badly for her, but I don't know that she has the RIGHT to have her children, the Father has rights as well. Not sure the best way to sort it all out, but I think that the assumption that the children should live with their mother without reason for the Father being denied the same luxury, is unfair. I think a judge should look at what is in the best interest of the children, whether that is being with the Mother or with their Father. Seems like the two parents in this case are both behaving in a way that is beyond damaging to the children. I feel the worst for them.
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Post by jovifan on Aug 11, 2015 1:16:40 GMT
its hard when you don't know what you are hearing is the truth, and we are just hearing her side. However I just don't see how (isn't it) a few judges have NOT decided in her favor...? It seems theres pieces to the puzzle that aren't being disclosed and shes an actress and I think she is using that craft to everyone now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 1:30:03 GMT
She will never get them out of there again if she returns to Monaco.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 11, 2015 2:46:29 GMT
Bluepoprocks is correct. Kelly got divorced while pregnant and refused to put the fathers name on the birth certificate even though a judge repeatedly told her to. Then she reported to the custody judge that her ex was trafficking drugs to South Africa to get him deported. That accusation was never proven. He's a successful German businessman with his own company. So she plotted to get him deported and it back fired on her. The judge said since her actions are not in favor of coparenting, he will get the kids and he has to pay for her to fly to see them 6 times a year. He obviously can't visit the kids in a country he was deported from so the judge really had no choice. We never hear his side of the story in the press, just that of the pretty white woman who naturally garners sympathy. Why say "pretty white woman"? What on earth does race have to do with it? The father is also white and also attractive. WTaF? |
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Post by tduby1 on Aug 11, 2015 10:25:01 GMT
Bluepoprocks is correct. Kelly got divorced while pregnant and refused to put the fathers name on the birth certificate even though a judge repeatedly told her to. Then she reported to the custody judge that her ex was trafficking drugs to South Africa to get him deported. That accusation was never proven. He's a successful German businessman with his own company. So she plotted to get him deported and it back fired on her. The judge said since her actions are not in favor of coparenting, he will get the kids and he has to pay for her to fly to see them 6 times a year. He obviously can't visit the kids in a country he was deported from so the judge really had no choice. We never hear his side of the story in the press, just that of the pretty white woman who naturally garners sympathy. Why say "pretty white woman"? What on earth does race have to do with it? The father is also white and also attractive. WTaF? I wondered the same. |
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Post by brina on Aug 11, 2015 11:46:32 GMT
Bluepoprocks is correct. Kelly got divorced while pregnant and refused to put the fathers name on the birth certificate even though a judge repeatedly told her to. Then she reported to the custody judge that her ex was trafficking drugs to South Africa to get him deported. That accusation was never proven. He's a successful German businessman with his own company. So she plotted to get him deported and it back fired on her. The judge said since her actions are not in favor of coparenting, he will get the kids and he has to pay for her to fly to see them 6 times a year. He obviously can't visit the kids in a country he was deported from so the judge really had no choice. We never hear his side of the story in the press, just that of the pretty white woman who naturally garners sympathy.  Kelly has been doing a very good job of manipulating the US press to make herself appear to be the victim. Of course the only true victims in all this are the children. |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 11, 2015 12:22:00 GMT
She will never get them out of there again if she returns to Monaco. ITA! She has to produce them today or they'll issue a warrant for her arrest. |
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Post by marimoose on Aug 11, 2015 13:37:35 GMT
She will never get them out of there again if she returns to Monaco. ITA! She has to produce them today or they'll issue a warrant for her arrest. Who is issuing the warrant? Monaco or the US? I have been away from all media since early last evening. |
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Post by mamastone on Aug 11, 2015 13:40:48 GMT
What a mess, all around.
Those poor kids!
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Post by brina on Aug 11, 2015 14:06:12 GMT
She will never get them out of there again if she returns to Monaco. as opposed to her husband who now can't get them back from the US? Monaco is not some dictatorship with no laws or constitution. |
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 11, 2015 14:17:28 GMT
ITA! She has to produce them today or they'll issue a warrant for her arrest. Who is issuing the warrant? Monaco or the US? I have been away from all media since early last evening. From what I read, a judge in NY has ordered her to appear in court today WITH the children. |
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 11, 2015 15:12:07 GMT
TMZ is reporting she just showed up at court without the kids...
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 11, 2015 15:23:02 GMT
ITA! She has to produce them today or they'll issue a warrant for her arrest. Who is issuing the warrant? Monaco or the US? I have been away from all media since early last evening. <script type="text/javascript" src="safari-extension://com.ebay.safari.myebaymanager-QYHMMGCMJR/fd9f9533/background/helpers/prefilterHelper.js"></script> I believe it it's a NY court that has said produce the children. |
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 15:49:55 GMT
According to IMDB she has been working steady the last two years. Here's what wiki had to say about her:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 15:53:38 GMT
wow....$1.5M in legal fees? Where is anyone looking out for the best thing for these children? Honestly Mom sounds spiteful based on what others have posted above and Dad doesn't sound much better. I do have to say that I agree that we aren't getting all the facts. But it does seem like her spite in helping get his visa revoked is coming back to bite her in the a$$.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 15:58:41 GMT
Such a disaster. Both parents are clearly acting in their own best interests, rather than the children's best interests. If they really wanted what's best for the children, they would find a way to cooperatively and civilly co-parent instead of dragging this battle out for 7 years. Shameful. Those poor kids, nothing but pawns in their parents' shenanigans.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 11, 2015 16:43:24 GMT
According to IMDB she has been working steady the last two years. Here's what wiki had to say about her: There's lots of peas who would really like you to answer the earlier question about why you brought race into it. Why come back to this thread without answering? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 16:52:05 GMT
This is not going to end well for her. Judges typically don't like their orders being defied.
Both parents are being unreasonable in this case. They need to focus on the well-being of those poor children instead of themselves.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 11, 2015 16:59:05 GMT
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Post by annabella on Aug 11, 2015 17:03:54 GMT
While I do think it's sad she's losing her kids, the father can't come to this country so what other solution is there? She just forfeited having another summer in this country with those kids. |
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Post by knit.pea on Aug 11, 2015 17:16:34 GMT
What legal effort has the father made to get his Visa back?
How can a NY court in late July say it has no jurisdiction and then rule in early August?
What country has jurisdiction over the two children?
How awful to bounce around, at such a young age, and probably have both
sides of the family bad-mouthing each other.
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Post by loco coco on Aug 11, 2015 17:23:59 GMT
I havent followed this story but the Dateline on the Savannah Todd case was on recently and there are some similarities. Both moms tried to falsely accuse the ex to win custody, both lost. Savannahs mom never returned her and her father looked for her for 18+ years. I feel very sorry for these dads. Its a shame these people cant look past their shitty old marriages and respect each other as a co parents.
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