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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 13:56:57 GMT
The time has finally arrived for me to sign up. I figured that this would be confusing, but wow. I am working with an independent agent who explained it all to me - but she can't make my decission.
I am really quite healthy and take no medications. But, my doctor who I adore only takes the supplement plans - and they are much more than I had anticipated. A lot of people around here (Texas) use the advantage and choice plans. I was leaning towards them until I found out that while there are low premiums, there are a lot of costs too.
I'm so confused as which to chose. I thought just a simple supplement to my Medicare A & B would be the answer, but so far the ones I've looked at (mostly United) are pricey. Any info will be appreciated.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 14:32:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 14:38:29 GMT
The main question is would you rather pay premiums each month with lower per usages fees or do an advantage plan with no premium but higher usage fees? My parents have Advantage in TX because they can't afford the supplemental premiums. I haven't heard too many bad stories, although it can take longer to be able to see a specialist. It helps that one of my brothers is an MD for simpler things, but he is about 1 1/2 hours from my parents. My MIL has a supplemental plan and it seems to work well also. It got my FIL through cancer, etc well.
If you go with an advantage plan, I would consider putting something into savings each month (if you can) for future medical expenses (cost for usage). Especially if you are currently healthy.
The good thing is that you can change each year. The bad thing is you can only change at open enrollment time which is close to the end of the year. So whatever you pick now can be changed pretty quickly in 2016, but you have to wait until 2017's open enrollment to change again.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 15:45:12 GMT
Thank you for replying. I'm leaning towards the better supplement plan. I'll just have to adjust my budget elsewhere.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 15:48:16 GMT
I was hoping for more info too, happy momma. Hopefully we can get some more replies. Knowledge is def needed in this area. Thanks for replying.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 13, 2015 16:27:12 GMT
It is VERY confusing!
I will warn you against a Medicare Advantage plan. It is the same as having an HMO. You are limited in what procedures the plan will accept. For example, SIL needed varicose vein treatment. Her dr. warned her that one vein in her leg was very likely to rupture, and if that happened she would bleed to death. Her plan refused it as they considered it for cosmetic reasons only. She took a chance on waiting because it was so costly. She changed back at the end of the year to a regular Medicare plan and the treatment was covered. MANY of my doctors will NOT accept a Medicare Advantage plan.
My husband had BCBS for his supplement until I retired and we both are carried on the Teacher Retirement System supplement--it is currently with Aetna.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 16:50:24 GMT
Thank you library lady. I wonder if United is the most expensive. Or, expensive because it's good. My agent told me that a Humana Advantage plan was a PPO. But, Aetna bought them so it may change in 2016. I've been so looking forward to going on Medicare and this is somewhat (a lot) disappointing.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 13, 2015 16:59:21 GMT
I am not an expert but looking into this as DH will be 65 and signs up for Medicare next month. He won't need supplemental insurance just yet because he is still working and has a good medical plan.
My understanding is Medicare only covers 80% and that is why most people buy supplemental coverage. If you are healthy in your younger retirement years, maybe you won't need this. But what happens let's say if you are in a car accident and it was your fault. If you sustain injuries and have a long hospital stay then your supplemental would kick in. At least that is my understanding.
Also, my boss and his wife have supplemental coverage. Each year during open enrollment I shop around for them to make sure they are getting the best coverage for their premium dollar. Even though they have premium increases each year, dollar for dollar the coverage they bought years back is much better than what they can purchase it for today. So, I guess you can not opt-in now, but then the older you get, the more expensive the supplemental will cost.
I think that costs vary by state.
If I am wrong, I am sure someone will correct the record here!
Buying health care coverage in the US is still a hot mess. Good luck!
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Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 13, 2015 17:08:21 GMT
We have Senior Advantage with Kaiser. We have been with Kaiser for about 10 years before we got on Medicare about 3 years ago so it was a natural transition for us. Kept our same doctor, know the system, etc. We each pay $73 a month. We were paying about $1800 a month in insurance premiums so Medicare is a snap. Hope you find a plan that works for you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 17:14:11 GMT
Beware that different states might also have different names for plans/levels/etc. In TX, it is my understanding that Advantage plans don't cost extra but supplemental do. cadoodlebug --is that $73 portion for Part D (prescription coverage) or your Part A/B premium? I have to agree that I have only heard good things out of Kaiser and do wish they were national. And that they could compete across state lines.
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Post by kelbel827 on Aug 13, 2015 17:15:12 GMT
I just did this with my dad last year. Even before I met with the agent, I knew that he needed to buy the best insurance now because you can only go down in coverage, not up. He's healthy and on no medications. The agent suggested the same.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 13, 2015 17:22:46 GMT
I have an advantage plan, SCAN. Neither my husband nor I have medical issues and we don't take meds. However, I did have hip replacement last year and it did not cost me one cent. Before that I fell and dislocated my shoulder, had to go to ER for them to put it back in place and then had an MRI. All in all my medical bills were over one hundred thousand last year and I didn't pay anything at all...zero. In the past we've had colonoscopies, blood work, shingles vaccine, etc and again pay nothing. Prescriptions are $5 when we do need meds for something.
I am in So. Cal. and I have a huge pool of doctors to choose from. My surgeon was top of the line and I was very lucky to have him. I'm not sure how an advantage plan would work if we were in a small town and didn't have such a wide choice of doctors. The SCAN customer service is wonderful.
You have the option each year to change so you can always go with another plan next year if you chose to. We would have wasted a lot of money by now if we'd gone with a supplemental plan.
ETA: We pay no premiums except the hundred dollars that they deduct from our social security checks.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 13, 2015 17:34:50 GMT
if you are 65 and still working with a good medical plan...there is no reason to sign up for medicare...you can wait til up to after 8 months after you end work.
we just checked into this with social security office.
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Post by PepsiGal on Aug 13, 2015 17:45:53 GMT
We have Humana Gold Plus and like femalebusiness we don't pay a premiums except for what is deducted from our SS checks
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Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 13, 2015 18:00:25 GMT
Beware that different states might also have different names for plans/levels/etc. In TX, it is my understanding that Advantage plans don't cost extra but supplemental do. cadoodlebug --is that $73 portion for Part D (prescription coverage) or your Part A/B premium? I have to agree that I have only heard good things out of Kaiser and do wish they were national. And that they could compete across state lines. It is supplemental care, not prescription drugs. Between the two of us I use thyroid meds and allergy spray during *the season* so no need at this point for part D.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 19:41:28 GMT
Thank you for all the replies. My primary doctor only takes a PPO. I am pretty sure he does not take any of the Advantage Plans.
Is Kaiser in Texas ? I have not heard of them. Yes, I do think it's hard to go up in coverage later on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 19:44:14 GMT
No I think Kaiser is strictly in CA unfortunately. Honestly all my friends in CA talk very highly of them and I know that they publish some very good HR/benefits studies and statistics each year that are very highly regarded by the whole industry. I really wish PPACA would have allowed insurance companies to compete across state lines!
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2015 19:49:54 GMT
Currently I am on the Affordable Heslth Care Plan. It is BCBS with a huge deductible
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Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 13, 2015 20:11:32 GMT
No I think Kaiser is strictly in CA unfortunately. Honestly all my friends in CA talk very highly of them and I know that they publish some very good HR/benefits studies and statistics each year that are very highly regarded by the whole industry. I really wish PPACA would have allowed insurance companies to compete across state lines! I think they are in about 8 states but I'm not sure which ones. We love that when we go see our primary care doctor he often sends us on to another department at the same time. DH had a mole he was concerned about so the PCP sent him over to the Dermatology department and they looked at it. Usually we can get in the same day or the next day for an appointment. They have prescriptions ready for us by the time we walk downstairs to that department after our appointment. If we need an X-ray, we walk right into that department.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 21:57:13 GMT
I live in Texas, too. We got supplementAL with Scott and White. There are several levels. We choose the free one. It has paid. I do not understand how. They explained why they offer the free plan, but either I didn't understand, or I have forgotten.
I do understand that you do need to get a part D policy when you are 65, though, or else you will have to pay more when you sign up for it. I just got the cheapest one available since we don't take any routine meds. It has worked fine too. We have had these about 4 years..
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Post by M~ on Aug 13, 2015 22:23:50 GMT
Well,
I think people are suggesting different things.
Do you want a plan that is going to cover the percentage (usually the 20% co-insurance amount) that traditional Medicare Part B does not cover? That is a supplemental plan.
Do you want a plan that is going to provide you with the same benefits that traditional Medicare does, plus some additional benefits depending on the Plan? (like dental cleanings and eyeglasses?) That is a Medicare Part C Plan- you are eligible for Medicare yet your healthcare is managed by a private insurance entity. These are plans like HMOs and PPOs.
Ok, I'm not giving you legal advice at all. And I'm not representing the place at work, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Generally speaking, I dislike Part C Plans as opposed to traditional Medicare. They lock you into their network MDs, prior authorization rules and really don't offer much more than traditional Medicare.
We didn't allow my granny to enroll in a Part C plan.
Medicare Part D-that has to go through a managed care organization.
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Post by heltr on Aug 13, 2015 22:26:39 GMT
Just been through this with a senior family member. She moved locally and thank goodness we had a top-line medicare advantage PPO available in our area. One was not available where she used to live. It does cost an extra $139/month over the part B cost BUT it limits yearly costs to $3500 in-network, $5500 (combo of in- and out-of-network). Also in-network there are $0 copays for primary care and $15 for specialists. So much better than her previous medicare advantage HMO plan which was horrible - everything needed referrals and approvals and no-one wanted to take it. As for standard medicare, the supplements were a NIGHTMARE to understand. I know it costs more but if you can get a PPO it does limit your overall yearly costs -- which for us likely facing a serious neurological diagnosis soon seemed like a good idea.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 14, 2015 0:18:04 GMT
Elaynef, please tell me more about Scott and White. Is that the name of your ins company or the agency ? Sounds great. Thanks.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 14, 2015 1:22:49 GMT
Scott and White is/was a huge medical facility in Central Texas. IIRC, they merged with the Baylor medical plans about 18 months ago.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 14, 2015 2:38:58 GMT
Are they just at that location ? I'm in Fort Worth / Arlington. Thanks for replying.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 14, 2015 3:10:56 GMT
Are they just at that location ? I'm in Fort Worth / Arlington. Thanks for replying. I'm not really knowledgeable---but at our TRS meeting a couple of years ago they were making a big deal out of Scott and White merging with the Baylor Health systems. They were trying to get us all to sign on with a Medicare Advantage plan and discussed the merger. That is really about all I know. --When I knew my drs would not accept the Advantage plan, I tuned out on the presentation.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 14, 2015 3:23:35 GMT
Dang same here. My doctors only take supplement plans. Which I was always under the impression were cheaper than an "Advantage" plan. I have August and Sept to sign up and it is not as simple as I thought. I know, I know - everyone says its a nightmare deciding, but I thought I had it figured out. Wrongo !
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Post by quinlove on Aug 14, 2015 17:41:00 GMT
Apparently Kaiser is in Texas !!! A supplement plan and reasonable. I think I found my solution. Anything not good about them ? My agent said there is no network. Yay !!!! Too good to be true ?
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Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 14, 2015 18:45:48 GMT
Apparently Kaiser is in Texas !!! A supplement plan and reasonable. I think I found my solution. Anything not good about them ? My agent said there is no network. Yay !!!! Too good to be true ? You pick your doctor from those who have availability. A friend of mine had her doctor retire so she had to find a new PCP ~ she asked who we go to because she knows we like him. He isn't accepting new patients right now. We are really happy with Kaiser. In the November 2014 edition of Consumer Reports, CA Kaiser got an 89 rating which was one of the highest nationwide. Unfortunately Kaiser TX was not listed. Maybe they are fairly new to Texas? ETA: One thing we LOVE about Kaiser is there is absolutely no paper work involved. When you go in, you register, pay your co-pay, they give you a receipt and you're done. When it was time for our shingles vaccination, we got it free and there was no wait.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 14, 2015 20:04:18 GMT
Call your physicians and ask if they will accept Kaiser before you decide to go with them. I only know that someone I know loves them--but she lives in California.
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