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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 19:15:28 GMT
Colorado Appeals Court rules baker denying same sex couple a wedding cake
The Colorado Appeals courts found that the bakery DID discriminate against the same sex couple by denying to bake them a cake for their wedding. The court found it was sexual discrimination. The courts said" Masterpiece remains free to continue espousing its religious beliefs including its opposition to same sex marriage. The decision said. However if it wishes to operate as a public accommodation and conduct business within the State of Colorado, CADA prohibits it from picking and choosing customers based on their sexual orientation." I agree with the findings. But I suspect this isn't the end of this discussion.
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Post by marimoose on Aug 13, 2015 19:29:13 GMT
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 13, 2015 19:32:41 GMT
I'm happy with the decision. I find it pretty 'unchristian' to deny anyone a wedding cake.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Aug 13, 2015 19:35:51 GMT
I agree with the decision also.
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Post by elaine on Aug 13, 2015 19:41:29 GMT
Anyone who read the other threads on this topic knows that I agree with the appeals court!  |
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Post by pierogi on Aug 13, 2015 19:55:35 GMT
I live in Colorado, and I'm happy about this.  |
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Post by jonda1974 on Aug 13, 2015 20:21:15 GMT
I honestly have mixed feelings on this.
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Post by oldcrow on Aug 13, 2015 20:28:26 GMT
I honestly have mixed feelings on this. Why? |
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2015 20:44:29 GMT
I honestly have mixed feelings on this. see I d9nt think someone should be forced to preform a wedding they do not agree with, but this is cake. If he is going to sell a triple layer white cake with raspberry filling and a buttercream with fondant to one person, he needs to sell it to anybody. |
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Post by flanz on Aug 13, 2015 20:46:25 GMT
Anyone who read the other threads on this topic knows that I agree with the appeals court! I agree with the court as well, but if I were LGBTQ I would definitely not want some known homophobe baking my cake or arranging my flowers or doing anything else for me!~ |
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Post by jonda1974 on Aug 13, 2015 20:59:11 GMT
I honestly have mixed feelings on this. Why? Mostly because of my libertarian beliefs. Do I think it's wrong of them to do. Absolutely, I just don't agree with it being illegal. And that's coming from a gay man. So I'm mixed on the issue. |
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Post by songbird on Aug 13, 2015 21:03:51 GMT
I think that if you have a public business, you cannot and should not discriminate for any reason. I also think the Christian thing to do is to show them love by making them a lovely wedding cake. Everyone wins in that scenario.
I think that in the case of clergy denying to marry a couple that is a whole other ballgame.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 13, 2015 21:07:03 GMT
I agree with the decision. Shocker, I know.
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Post by macaddict on Aug 13, 2015 21:11:09 GMT
I'm torn on this … if a bakery would not of wanted to make a cake for my wedding (interracial) I think I would want them to have that right so I could make an informed decision to do business with them.
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Post by freebird on Aug 13, 2015 21:11:04 GMT
I think they should have baked the cake myself. My feeling is that if God has an issue, he's going to sort it out. It's not my place.
HOWEVER, I do have an issue with one protected class going up against another protected class (religion vs sexual orientation) and one is deemed more important than the other. Christians sure have been the whipping dogs lately. No one is suing Muslim bakeries for refusing service for the *same issue*.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2015 21:21:26 GMT
I think they should have baked the cake myself. My feeling is that if God has an issue, he's going to sort it out. It's not my place. HOWEVER, I do have an issue with one protected class going up against another protected class (religion vs sexual orientation) and one is deemed more important than the other. Christians sure have been the whipping dogs lately. No one is suing Muslim bakeries for refusing service for the *same issue*. are there Muslim bakeries who have refused to make cakes for specific classes? I see homosexuality as the same as race. It is something you are born as. I see religion as a choice, you may be born into a religious family, but one constantly makes choices about their religion. Do I follow all the rules? Just the ones I agree with? Do I go to church/temple/mosque every time I am supposed to or only on big holidays... With race or sexual orientation, there aren't those chosen or distinctions to be made. There were religious arguments about not serving blacks and making and keeping interracial marriages illegal |
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Post by freebird on Aug 13, 2015 21:32:43 GMT
I think they should have baked the cake myself. My feeling is that if God has an issue, he's going to sort it out. It's not my place. HOWEVER, I do have an issue with one protected class going up against another protected class (religion vs sexual orientation) and one is deemed more important than the other. Christians sure have been the whipping dogs lately. No one is suing Muslim bakeries for refusing service for the *same issue*. are there Muslim bakeries who have refused to make cakes for specific classes? I see homosexuality as the same as race. It is something you are born as. I see religion as a choice, you may be born into a religious family, but one constantly makes choices about their religion. Do I follow all the rules? Just the ones I agree with? Do I go to church/temple/mosque every time I am supposed to or only on big holidays... With race or sexual orientation, there aren't those chosen or distinctions to be made. There were religious arguments about not serving blacks and making and keeping interracial marriages illegal Yes, I saw a video where a man went to a bunch of muslim bakeries asking for a gay wedding cake, and they all sent him away. How is it any different?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2015 21:35:04 GMT
are there Muslim bakeries who have refused to make cakes for specific classes? I see homosexuality as the same as race. It is something you are born as. I see religion as a choice, you may be born into a religious family, but one constantly makes choices about their religion. Do I follow all the rules? Just the ones I agree with? Do I go to church/temple/mosque every time I am supposed to or only on big holidays... With race or sexual orientation, there aren't those chosen or distinctions to be made. There were religious arguments about not serving blacks and making and keeping interracial marriages illegal Yes, I saw a video where a man went to a bunch of muslim bakeries asking for a gay wedding cake, and they all sent him away. How is it any different?
that isn't any different, unless, I guess they didn't sue? I'll stand behind you on that. If one religion cannot be used, none of them can. |
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