Big Brother Live Feed Discussion - August 14th *SPOILERS!*

If Vanessa doesn't change her mind before morning (because she's not the HoH but is...) Liz will likely be putting up Becky and JMac. They are counting on JMac's ability to beat Becky in the Veto comp. However, if Becky wins, they will put James up as a backdoor replacement nominee. Well, unless Vanessa changes Liz's mind for her...

I went to bed right after I learned that Liz won HOH. The feeds consisted of Becky trashing Vanessa & Steve spinning his story about how he was so confused/lost during the DE. Anyone remember Wednesday when Steve looked at the camera in the hammock room & said 'sorry Meg & Jackie'? Everyone wondered what he had meant - but it was his noms. He made his mind up on Wednesday.

This morning I read that everyone met w/Liz (&Austin). The plan was to nom JMac / Becky.
Becky met w/them & went through her Vanessa list.
Now they are considering backdooring Vanessa.

Julia even got on the hate Vanessa bandwagon calling her a beotch.

Austin/Liz really want Vanessa out. I don't understand it.
I have no idea where Steve really stands anymore. He is playing nice w/F&G - but I think he is true to JMac now.

Someone explain if you have a read on any of this.

ugh, so mad Vanessa didnt go home. I bet she will win this game now, everyone is too scared of her and they are her puppets. James was stupid to flip b/c he should have known Vanessa is too "in" with the Austwins, she has no loyalty to him/meg and he would go up if any of them won HOH.

Steve... wth? I thought he hated Becky?

This isn't what I got from the updates at all. The Austwins are not feeling great about Vanessa right now. If they don't backdoor her - they are setting her up so that she is next out. Austin/Liz want her gone. 


The next time Van is on the block she is out the door. 

It's been a whirlwind several days at my house. I have been around, and done some reading, just no posting. I did see the live show last night and have to say, am very disappointed with Liz winning HOH. Just can't get on her bandwagon.

I know this is extremely unlikely, but I am really rooting for James to win it all. I would like a James/Julia final two. Pretty sure that won't be happening!

The last couple of weeks have really changed my opinion of JMac...very disappointed in him. I'm hoping James wins.

Here is where I read that... But, it was early in the night, too.

7:10 PM BBT – Feeds return to John sitting alone in silence. Few HGs gathered in the bathroom.

7:15 PM BBT – Goblins continue to sit in complete shock.

7:20 PM BBT – Becky talking to Austin about the shock of Steve’s decisions. She says Steve has no one behind with him. Becky says this to Austin.

7:35 PM BBT – James and Meg believe this was all planned by Austin and Vanessa. They say those two are trouble.

7:45 PM BBT – Steve warns Vanessa and twins that this will likely be a Days comp so they can start to study and prepare.

7:55 PM BBT – John gets permission from Steve to tell HGs that Steve asked him not to use the Veto during the DE. Steve says yes since that’s the truth.

8:10 PM BBT – Becky thinks Austin is throwing comps and can do much better than he is letting on.

8:15 PM BBT – John and Becky talk in the Lounge. He tells her about Steve asking him not to use the Veto. He thinks Becky or James would have gone up. Becky asks John to come tell the Goblins that info.

8:25 PM BBT – James realizes that if you make a deal with Austin and Vanessa that you’ll be at the bottom of their priority list.

8:35 PM BBT – John is in with the Goblins and Becky. They’re trying to figure out what went wrong. Meanwhile the other side is busily studying dates. They were told by Liz about thinking it’ll be Days, but Meg thinks that happens at the end, not now.

8:40 PM BBT – Becky says they’ll need to get Steve on their side to have the votes to influence anything. Steve is actively in the other room hanging out with Austin and Vanessa. Oops.

8:50 PM BBT – Steve arrives in HN room. He tells Meg he had never connected with Jackie and was told she was coming after him. Meg swears Jackie was never coming after Steve. Becky warns him whoever told him that was pushing a hidden agenda.

9:00 PM BBT – Meg suggests whoever lied to Steve tried to set him up to be the distracting target for the Goblins. Steve seems to be pretending and believing them. Becky asks who told him, but he won’t name names and says she can guess.

9:18 PM BBT – Feeds cut for HoH competition.

10:14 PM BBT – Feeds return. Meg isn’t happy.

10:15 PM BBT – Julia comes out of the toilet and is greeted by Liz. They start jumping up and down and celebrating. Liz has the HOH key around her neck.

10:23 PM BBT – Vanessa and Julia are celebrating Liz’s win. Vanessa already talking about HER plans for this week. She thinks Becky needs to go so that she and Jackie are in jury together and only one can return. Vanessa says if they play their cards right this week they are a lock for final five.

10:25 PM BBT – Liz comes in and Vanessa gives her a hug. More celebrating among the three of them.

10:26 PM BBT – Steve comes in the room to celebrate as well (because “Freaks & Geeks” alliance is real, Steve. Sure it is).

10:28 PM BBT – Meg and Becky talk about how they thought Johnny Mac had it. Guess he almost won.

10:35 PM BBT – Vanessa tells Steve and Johnny Mac they’re safe (as if she’s the HOH).

10:48 PM BBT – Vanessa keeps trying to get John to agree to a deal. She tells him that they need to work with Steve so it’s 3/3/3 (as if she’s not a part of one of those 3s). She tells John again that he’s safe this week but now adds even if you go up.

10:52 PM BBT – Becky is upset and worried. She says she’s so sick of the game and that ever since the house changed their mind on Vanessa, her game has been on a downward spiral.

11:07 PM BBT – Vanessa suggests Liz put up Becky and John because Becky can win a veto but John could beat her. And if Becky wins veto, then they can backdoor James.

11:13 PM BBT – Becky tells John and Steve that she’s going home this week for her failed attempt at taking out Vanessa.

11:14 PM BBT – They’ve seemingly decided on Becky and John as nominees so now they’re discussing deals they can make with Meg and James for the following week.

11:20 PM BBT – Vanessa wants to make a 6-person deal with James and Meg. Then as an alternate they’ll make a 6-person deal with Steve and John.

11:35 PM BBT – Austin says if anything goes wrong with their plan they’ll just BD James.

12:00 AM BBT – Have-Nots have ended, for the week.

12:24 AM BBT – Steve got his HoH basket of goodies. HGs checking out his pictures.

1:45 AM BBT – Liz announces her HoH room is ready.

2:10 AM BBT – Vanessa wants Liz to tell Becky that she’s not making any deals to get back at her for saying that to Vanessa.

2:20 AM BBT – James and Meg are in the HoH room talking through making themselves good with the power this week.

2:35 AM BBT – Becky finally gets up to the HoH room and talk with Liz.

2:40 AM BBT – Back downstairs Meg decides she can trust Austin and his allies after all. James agrees saying Austin knows he and Meg were helping them so they’ll do the same.

2:50 AM BBT – Becky continues to work on Austin and Liz upstairs. She says she didn’t tell JMac about the 8-HG deal and it must have been Vanessa. Becky starts to explain what she knows about the plan to BD Austin the other week. She uses cereal to explain.

3:10 AM BBT – Becky’s plan may have actually worked. Austin thinks maybe they need to keep Becky to help take care of Vanessa and they should target JMac this week instead. He says they’ll just have to tell Vanessa she’s good with them, but they’re going to do this other plan instead.

3:20 AM BBT – Vanessa is back upstairs. She asks what Becky talked about, Austin denies any real game talk. (Ohh.) Vanessa says they have to come up with a new alliance name for Freaks & Geeks. (That was a TV show.) Liz had suggested “Nerd Herd” not knowing about S6. They go with “Scamper Squad” and do a dance that’s as cheesy as you’re probably imagining.

So Vanessa’s side has the power again this week, but how much longer will they remain Vanessa’s side? Austin doesn’t seem ready to go after Vanessa head on, but he may be willing to let someone else take her out.

Nominations ceremony coming up later on Friday and then Veto will be played out on Saturday. We’ll need to get through both of those to see which of the “others” will be taken out this week.

As soon as Austin made a deal with Meg/James/Jackie as a F6, he's been a little snippy with Vanessa. He thinks she tells him what to do. When I hear her, she gives reasons to do multiple things and then says this would be a better option. She thinks of all sides and costs.. Guess he feels he doesn't need her anymore. And now they are listening to Beckys mouth and they now may want to keep Becky so they have each other to go after. Sending out Jmac. If Van says one cross thing to Austin.. she may be the back door option. Because Jmac wins Vetos.

The question was asked by Jackie on yesterdays thread... Goblins are mainly Jackie/James/Meg.. This may help.
www.bustle.com/articles/103852-whats-the-goblins-alliance-on-big-brother-17-whats-a-goon-to-a-goblin

Just got back home & read through the updates.

It is amazing that Becky has tainted every single HG against Vanessa. Both Becky & Vanessa's games are pretty much tanked now. I want Vanessa to outlast Becky.

Also - Shelli blames everything that happened in the game on Vanessa. Jackie blames Vanessa. The jury is going to be really anti-Vanessa & whoever comes back in the house will have a single purpose and that is to eliminate Vanessa. Maybe Vanessa in jury could be a good thing for her because she would be able to talk to Shelli/Jackie. But I doubt she would be the one to make it back in the game unless BB really wanted her back for some showdown (against Austin?).

I'm still surprised that Vanessa is enemy #1 and the twins & Austin aren't on James/Meg/JMac's list to get out next.

I know that I sound like I'm a die hard Vanessa fan - but that's not true. There are several people playing the game that I like almost as much. I just think that Vanessa is damned if she does something & damned when she doesn't. She is easy to blame for everything - much like Audrey. I just wish that she had someone in the game that she could count on. She does not. I also am anti-Becky so that pushes me to side w/Vanessa.

I had a hope that James/Vanessa would team up, or Vanessa/Steve/JMac - but that won't happen. A really beautiful thing would be if JMac/Steve/Becky/Vanessa could form something. Who would ever suspect that? They could take out everyone I think. But even as good as Vanessa is with persuasion - she will never get Becky to put aside her dislike/hate of her for game play.

Imagine if Vanessa won Veto this week, took down one of them (John/Becky), Meg goes up & out. That would be funny & another HOH where the one walking out the door was not the one the HOH wanted.

Thanks Gossamer for the goblins explanation.

I'm a fan - I was a bigger fan of her before she got so over the top emotional. I wish she could just calm down. The twins just want to have a good time - if Van could chill out & talk about her favorite nail polish color they would 'love' her again. They want to hang with the 'fun' bunch.

Right now I hope Van can settle down & ease off JMac. Every word she is saying is going straight to Becky who will broadcast to the house. I'm really surprised that Steve doesn't care enough about her to give her a heads up to use caution. He did tell her repeatedly a week ago that he loved her. 

My BB fantasy right now is that Van survives eviction next week w/Becky actually going. Then Van wins HOH. James/Meg would blow Austin/Liz's game up to Van as quickly as Becky drove the bus over Van for the last 2 weeks. I thought Van was safe this week - I hope she finds out just how precarious her position has been & I hope when she does it fuels her to target the trio.  The thought of Austin/Liz/Julia surviving intact longer than Van makes me cringe.

Post #100

You non live-feeders are really missing out.

Liz/Julia are in HOH SHOVING food in their face & talking with their mouths full & drinking champagne.

They feel bad about Becky - because she didn't put them up.
They LOVE James & Meg.

Julia LOVES Steve.

Vanessa is NOT getting any of their champagne/stuff. (did they forget they put her on HN?)

They are mad at Vanessa saying that she threw this HOH - not sure that she did but they are mad at her for not winning.

They want to save Becky to take out Vanessa.

I hate these girls.