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Post by LauraTen on Aug 16, 2015 23:56:27 GMT
DD will be starting high school next month and will be in Concert Band.
She has played Clarinet in Middle School Band all 3 years.
To fit band in her schedule, she took summer PE.
Last week got a phone call from the drum major (I think that is what he said) inviting her to join Marching Band.
Marching band requires band camp which is why the call was made a month before school starts.
I kindly declined and said she was only interested in Concert Band.
Then we had Band Fee Night...
Every parent volunteer, student, and even the teacher were pushing Marching Band.
It was almost cult like behavior...I'm sure there is a better word, but everyone seemed so pushy.
I know how much time Marching Band requires, practice, travel, etc.
And it is just not her "thing".
I just wanted to scream "Isn't Concert Band enough???"
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
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Post by kckckc on Aug 16, 2015 23:59:37 GMT
When my sons were in high school, you had to be in marching band if you wanted to be in concert band. They had no choice.
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Post by CeeScraps on Aug 17, 2015 0:01:36 GMT
My daughter didn't have a choice. Marching band was fun to see the formations that were created on the football fields.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 17, 2015 0:07:21 GMT
When I was in highschool there wasnt a choice. Which is why I quit concert band. My kids had a choice ( and chose marching band ) the teacher are encouraging but not pushy.
In fact they seperated out foot ball marching band and our competition marching band to be able to include more kids. ( less commitment in football band ) it works for us and several other schools around here have started to do the same.
Here the band directors are just happy if the kids choose band in any way. Sure they'll encourage more but do accept no for an answer.
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Post by melissa on Aug 17, 2015 0:14:58 GMT
I am curious to hear how this works.
Back in the dinosaur days, when I was in high school, we had two bands- concert band and wind ensemble. In the fall, marching band music was rehearsed, at least briefly, in some of those classes. After football season, music was either for upcoming concerts or competitions. Marching band was very much wrapped up into both bands. Of course, we never had school fees for this sort of thing back then either!
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Post by utmr on Aug 17, 2015 0:37:29 GMT
I don't think it's an option. It's just "band" - in the fall is marching and the spring is concert. Both recently and back in the day. Barring some physical reason she can't march, I can't imagine them allowing it.
When I was in college there was a one-legged boy in band. Literally. During marching season he played in the stands and helped with sideline stuff. There was some reason he couldn't march with his prosthetic leg, other than in and out of the stadium.
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Post by LauraTen on Aug 17, 2015 0:42:33 GMT
I don't think it's an option. It's just "band" - in the fall is marching and the spring is concert. Both recently and back in the day. Barring some physical reason she can't march, I can't imagine them allowing it. When I was in college there was a one-legged boy in band. Literally. During marching season he played in the stands and helped with sideline stuff. There was some reason he couldn't march with his prosthetic leg, other than in and out of the stadium. It is definitely two different choices at her high school. And I'm glad it is...DD would never have enough time to do her homework with practices and games after school. Also, it allows for students who have after school sports and clubs, etc. to participate in band, too
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Post by hop2 on Aug 17, 2015 0:53:10 GMT
I am curious to hear how this works. Back in the dinosaur days, when I was in high school, we had two bands- concert band and wind ensemble. In the fall, marching band music was rehearsed, at least briefly, in some of those classes. After football season, music was either for upcoming concerts or competitions. Marching band was very much wrapped up into both bands. Of course, we never had school fees for this sort of thing back then either! We have 3 bands and an orchestra in our high school. All daytime graded classes with the only after school time being concerts. Then we have competition marching band which is a huge commitment 3 practices a week plus the competition on Saturday plus the competition band members are part of the football band. The football band has 2 summer practices, one the first week of school than you only show up early to football game for oregano oractice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 0:55:43 GMT
In TX, we had to be part of both bands to be part of either. In NC, kids could do either. Marching Band in NC ia an afterschool extra-curricular activity.
However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 1:01:02 GMT
Here, it's marching band in the fall and concert band the rest of the year. They practice twice a week and have 4 competitions plus all of the home games (4 this year). There has been football players in the marching band. I remember one year, he just grabbed his instrument from the pit and joined the band on the field at half time and then ran back to the locker room after the performance. With stuff like that, the coaches and band director will make exceptions.
Also, here, if a student does 4 years of marching band, they get the required PE credits. Same with sports. Play at least 4 seasons (can be fall and spring x2) of sports, you get the required PE credits for graduation.
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Post by stampinbetsy on Aug 17, 2015 1:12:18 GMT
We don't really have a choice. Some kids suffer through concert season because they love marching, some kids suffer through marching season because they love concert season. Every year there are some kids who quit after marching season, even though they like them to commit for the year.
So call me one of the ones surprised that they would even let you do one but not the other.
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Post by LauraTen on Aug 17, 2015 1:14:17 GMT
In TX, we had to be part of both bands to be part of either. In NC, kids could do either. Marching Band in NC ia an afterschool extra-curricular activity. However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had. DD will be in the specialty center (Center for Science, Mathematics and Technology) at her high school. She thrives in an academic environment with a rigorous, advanced curriculum. For her, Concert Band, during the school day, will be her "down time". I just didn't think her choice would be "challenged" like it has been.
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Post by AnotherPea on Aug 17, 2015 1:19:06 GMT
It is very odd here for students to not do both. Some students March but don't do concert. I haven't heard of any in the past nine years that did concert without marching.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 17, 2015 1:32:27 GMT
Here it is just band You march in the fall and concert in the spring.
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Post by just PEAchy on Aug 17, 2015 1:37:38 GMT
Our school has both choices as well. Last year, my son took 3 trimesters of concert band. He did 3-4 concerts and a competition, no marching. Students in marching band take that 1st trimester and then take concert band the next 2 trimesters. To be in any of the special ensembles, you have to do marching band.
To answer the OP's question, we didn't experience any kind of pressure to join marching band. The band director was really supportive of whatever the kids wanted to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 1:44:22 GMT
In our school, you can choose and there are students that only choose Concert band. Marching is strongly encouraged...and the pressure to march sounds certainly like the pressure your DD is getting.
I will say that if she doesn't march, her relationships with her peers in band will not be the same. It just won't be. It's even possible to have her decision to not march reflect on the directors...and not in a positive way.
But I firmly believe that your DD has to do WHAT'S RIGHT FOR HER...and sometimes that means making tough decisions. There are many "band people" that just cannot understand how someone could want to spend time doing other things NOT band related. It sounds like whether or not your DD marches, she will not be one of those people.
My DS was in band in middle school. He knew he'd move to band in HS. Initially, he did not want to march. I pretty much "forced" him to march Freshman year...telling him that I was forcing one year...and if he didn't like it (because he was a real musician...loved band) that he'd never have to march again. He ended up loving marching season (even though it is a ton of hard work, for sure) but due to many other issues with the band program as a whole, "checked out" of the band program in early Feb of his Freshman year.
We're now on the second full year of full time chorus and drama...and he is so very happy.
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Post by lancermom on Aug 17, 2015 1:47:33 GMT
Around my place school band and marching band are different animals. Even school band thinks that the marching band is a cult. But, my kids loved marching more than school. However marching is just the first eight weeks of summer. Boom boom $$$$ boom and done. It is the best thing my kids have done. But ours is not part of the school district. The teachers encourage, but do not push.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 17, 2015 1:51:16 GMT
In TX, we had to be part of both bands to be part of either. In NC, kids could do either. Marching Band in NC ia an afterschool extra-curricular activity. However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had. DD will be in the specialty center (Center for Science, Mathematics and Technology) at her high school. She thrives in an academic environment with a rigorous, advanced curriculum. For her, Concert Band, during the school day, will be her "down time". I just didn't think her choice would be "challenged" like it has been. There could be many reasons they are pushing, friendship, comraderie, she's good and they want her. FWIW Selective universities look at a diverse and challenging high school and extra curricular life. Academics and a creative activity doesn't cut it anymore. Is there any way she could try it one year and see. I was lucky, in our area, many schools have 8th graders in Marching band so you get to decide if it your thing before you commit to your high school schedule. I loved band concert and marching. My kids didn't want to do band and the band director is a jerk so I was ok with that. The band used to have nearly 130 marching at small school and is down to around 20 now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 1:51:24 GMT
In TX, we had to be part of both bands to be part of either. In NC, kids could do either. Marching Band in NC ia an afterschool extra-curricular activity. However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had. DD will be in the specialty center (Center for Science, Mathematics and Technology) at her high school. She thrives in an academic environment with a rigorous, advanced curriculum. For her, Concert Band, during the school day, will be her "down time". I just didn't think her choice would be "challenged" like it has been. I was a kid like her....loved math! Have a degree in it actually. Back then, we didn't have specialty schools or centers, but I took every math class possible.
Band was pretty much my "down time" too....but that included Marching Band for me. I found the busy-ness of it helped my kids schedule their time better and actually they did better in grades during MB season because of that. My oldest is still in MB in college (going to be a Junior and 3rd year in college MB). Many of those in MB at her university are not music majors but span the breadth of degree types.
As a parent I would probably encourage her to try it for one season. And then let her see what she thinks.
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Post by Jili on Aug 17, 2015 2:02:59 GMT
However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had. I would have to agree with this. There's just something about marching band... I hated high school except for my experiences in marching band. At our school, it was voluntary. I didn't join as a freshman, but as a sophomore. I wish that I'd joined a year earlier. I have great memories of my time marching. For my own children, there isn't a choice. During marching season, you're marching. Then comes concert season. No exceptions, except they will work with you if you are in a fall sport and need to juggle schedules. With that said... our band really doesn't compete--yet. We had a director who was there for over 30 years, and she didn't believe in competing. This is our third year with a new director, and now there's a new assistant director. They're really working on shaping up the band, and I expect competition is in the near future. Band camp starts this week. I know my daughter is worried about it (it's her first year, and she's on the drumline), but I absolutely love hearing the band practicing from my house (we live a few streets away from the high school). I can't wait.
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Post by pridemom on Aug 17, 2015 2:27:54 GMT
In TX, we had to be part of both bands to be part of either. In NC, kids could do either. Marching Band in NC ia an afterschool extra-curricular activity. However I suspect that if your daughter only choses to be in concert band, she won't have the same kind of bond that the other students who are in Marching Band do. It is a large commitment but I will tell you that it is very worth it. I don't really know any MB kids who look back and wish they hadn't done it. But know quite a few who wished they had. At our high school if you do band, you do both marching and concert. I agree with the bond the kids develop in marching band. But, it is a time commitment. Band camp is two weeks of 8-5 at the school to learn music and the drill. We have six meets a year which are all day Saturday, usually from 6am to 11 pm.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 17, 2015 2:30:09 GMT
Also no choice at my kids' high school. In football season you marched. No exceptions made, not even for football players. Which was dumb, in my opinion, and is the reason why ds and several of his friends never moved to the concert band. He stayed in symphonic which was new students and the kids who didn't want to march. There were enough upperclassmen that it wasn't a problem even when he was a senior, and he made first chair (trumpet) several times. (he and another kid would have challenges every once in awhile, lol). But yeah, march or not, that determined which band you'd be in for the rest of the year.
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Post by RiverIsis on Aug 17, 2015 2:35:32 GMT
I still have friends today that I made through band, not just kids in my year but those kids 4 years older (8th grade marcher) and 4 years younger. I wouldn't have had the opportunity to be around them as much to make friends if it hadn't been for band.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 17, 2015 2:42:33 GMT
When my sons were in high school, you had to be in marching band if you wanted to be in concert band. They had no choice. Marching band was the most wonderful experience for DS and us. Best.four.years.ever.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Aug 17, 2015 2:42:57 GMT
My sister participated in concert band and symphonic band but did not participate in marching band and was very glad she made that choice. She was also clarinetist.
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Post by mstubble on Aug 17, 2015 2:51:48 GMT
When I was in high school, you did both. It's still that way around here in all of the schools. Marching band in the fall, concert band in the winter and marching band again in the spring.
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Post by pb on Aug 17, 2015 3:49:25 GMT
You have a choice at our school but concert band pretty much practices the marching band music for the first two months and there is a strong bond between the marching band kids so it can be hard for the others.
My eldest was a band kid, marched, did peep band the whole works. My youngest, no chance cause he was a runner. He did do concert band for three years and didn't have much of a problem for several reasons:
He was very good and did jazz band for two of the three years He was a great runner He had pretty high self esteem and a solid friend group outside of band and running He did band for the down time it gave him.
The last drove all his band instructors crazy. They wanted lessons, commitment, the whole works. I told the band director that if they pushed him, they would lose him. Fortunately he listened to me and help make things work between the two activites until youngest truly needed to make a commitment to one. Senior year, no band at all.
However I know several students who did concert without marching and they did not have a pleasant experience.
You sound like you know your daughter and she has a pretty good idea of her own self...try it and see.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Aug 17, 2015 3:52:28 GMT
Here you can do concert band during the fall. However a lot of the time is spent on marching band music. There are 3 levels though. Concert band is usually for freshmen and those new to their instrument. Then Wind 2 and Wind 1 all during different periods of the day. Wind 1 works on festival music too for a district wide performing arts festival in October.
During spring, all band kids are in 1 of the 3 ensembles with try-outs in December.
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Post by Gravity on Aug 17, 2015 3:58:05 GMT
I don't think it's an option. It's just "band" - in the fall is marching and the spring is concert. Both recently and back in the day. Barring some physical reason she can't march, I can't imagine them allowing it. When I was in college there was a one-legged boy in band. Literally. During marching season he played in the stands and helped with sideline stuff. There was some reason he couldn't march with his prosthetic leg, other than in and out of the stadium. It is definitely two different choices at her high school. And I'm glad it is...DD would never have enough time to do her homework with practices and games after school. Also, it allows for students who have after school sports and clubs, etc. to participate in band, too My DD attends a large 6A Texas high school. Three out of the last four years the valedictorian was also the head drum major of the marching band. Marching band, studying, and making good grades can go hand in hand.
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Post by peano on Aug 17, 2015 4:01:51 GMT
Our HS sends students into the middle school to recruit kids because they allow rising 8th graders to be in the HS marching band. DS shocked us by deciding to sign up; two of his best friends are from families with multiple sibs who were all in marching band, but still, we were shocked, because it didn't seem to be his "thing" either. And I cannot stress enough what a great experience it has been for him; it was the best decision he could have made. It made his transition to HS so much easier. From something simple like already knowing the layout of the building, to already having a whole set of friends when he walked in the door as a freshman. I don't know the culture of your school's marching band but I know ours is a large and strong organization that offers a "home" to those kids who may not be the "popular" kids. They are largely a fantastic group of kids who are kind and support each other. It's common for everyone to go to the diner after Saturday competitions, and even as a somewhat socially awkward and introverted eighth grader, upper classmen opened up space and welcomed him to their tables. I know you're looking for validation, but if I sound "pushy", it's just really because our experience has been so positive.
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