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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2015 1:11:56 GMT
I have been thinking about my biggest obstacles to getting more done (normal plus crafty) and I realized my single biggest scrapping obstacle is not having the photos I need printed, or in the size I want. Now I want to fix that. I believe that if I had a good quality photo printer at home it would help tremendously. However, I am concerned about the archival quality of the photos. When I looked into it years ago it was known that they weren't nearly as good quality. But what about now? Does anyone have any insight or have you done recent research?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 17, 2015 3:36:14 GMT
Having printed photos in the right size is my biggest obstacle too. I end up having to edit (tweak) and/or resize almost every photo I want to scrap. Not only does it adds a lot of time to the process, but it's something I don't particularly enjoy either which only compounds the problem. I prefer the luster finish photos I get from Costco, but that means going to Costco and sometimes that isn't ideal.
After much deliberation I decided to buy a Selphy when I saw it on Amazon for about $75. Yes, the photos are only (almost) 4x6 maximum which doesn't always work for my pages and they are only glossy finish, but having the ability to print any decent pics at home or on the go made it worth it to me. I like that the resulting dye sub prints are virtually waterproof, and the clear coat on top protects them from scratches if I want to use the pics for mini books with no page protectors occasionally. It's nice to have something portable that I can take to crops away from home. The printed image color is good. I can print four pictures and then put it away for six months and print four more without having to worry about the cartridges going bad in the meantime. The dye sub prints have very good lightfastness and longevity. (Epson Durabrite and Claria inkjet inks also have been tested to be very good in terms of lightfastness, longevity, etc. so that isn't one of my issues, but I have an inkjet printer and didn't want another that would only be used for photos.)
I don't like that the prints are roughly .30 each and that I can't make 5x7's, but to do that would have meant another inkjet and that wouldn't work for me since I don't print photos frequently enough for that to be an option. I learned that one the hard way years ago when I dropped a lot of money on an Epson Picturemate and several expensive ink cartridges that dried up and clogged the heads before they were even halfway used up.
The other change I'm making now that my studio is pretty much done will be to start using sketches/sketch books more frequently for my page planning, and have more regular crops at my house with friends. By knowing which photos I want printed and in which size for a particular layout IN ADVANCE will allow me to edit, upload and print the photos at Costco in the right size the first time without making a ton of extra prints in several sizes because I'm just guessing what I might want to do.
Because my studio wasn't set up before and none of my stuff was even unpacked, it made it very hard to plan things very well. The only time I was able to scrap was at a retreat or crop away from home. Getting the photos done beforehand was usually the last thing I would get to so that process was always rushed. I spent a lot of time and money guessing what pics I wanted in what size, only to get to the crop and wish I had something cropped differently or printed in a different size which would just totally stall out my progress.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2015 6:05:39 GMT
Thanks for the reply! I will do a search using the terms lightfastness and longevity and see what I can find. I love the idea of the Selphy but I definitely need a printer for larger photos. I'm researching laser printers as well. I didn't realize the photo printer ink cartridges dried out so that is exactly the type of information I need. Ideally I would plan a group of pages and print the photos in bulk. ThEn I have my photo printer for those last minute pages, mistakes or any changes I decide on. I've been saving layout sketches I like, and even purchased a couple of books but have yet to use them. It's also on my to do list! I bet you will find that the more you invite people over the neater your scraproom stays I think that is a good plan to have everything ready for your scrap days. I don't belong to Costo, and the closest one is 30 minutes away but I love a good print. I will have to ask my cousin to pick up some for me to see if it is worth joining. edited because I can't type!
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Post by anniefb on Aug 17, 2015 6:26:31 GMT
I haven't done a lot of research into the longevity issue because I'm mainly scrapping for myself (don't have kids so it would only be my niece if she's interested in anything) but I have seen reports which suggest at least some printers can rival the quality/longevity of professional prints. Here's an article which looks at the issue: www.your-digital-life.com/how-to-print-long-lasting-photos-at-home/And I did read a recent review of the Canon Pro-10/100 which mentioned a 100 yr lifespan for photos if stored in archival quality albums.
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Post by kaybree on Aug 17, 2015 14:10:58 GMT
I print at home using a Canon printer. I like the flexibility it gives me, and I was sick and tired of the colours being off from various photo labs. I don't know what the archival time is for the prints, though.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 17, 2015 14:57:27 GMT
dewryce you mentioned also looking at laser printers. I had a color laser printer in the past and wanted to let you know that they're not all that great for printing on heavier stock due to the laser printing process. The heat has to go through the paper to bond the toner(s) to it, and the heavier the paper the harder it is for the machine to do. Repeated printing on heavy stock is hard on the printer's drum too and it's an expensive part to replace. Also, with the one I had (Brother, maybe? It was a while ago) the colors on the resulting prints were very saturated. It was okay for what I needed (photos on instruction sheets) but for actual photos I wouldn't have been happy with the results for scrapbooking. It died after only about a year.
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Post by disneyer on Aug 17, 2015 15:13:34 GMT
I agree, my process is hampered by not having enough or the right photos printed. I found our local CVS did a wonderful job. They were never busy so I could send some over pictures and in an hour go pick them up. Then they had that CC breach about a month ago and still not online. You can still go to the store but it's double the cost. I am temped by at home printing but can't justify the expensive vs. convenience. BTW- I have read that other people swear by the Epson Charm for exact 4x6 prints.
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Post by lauralaforest on Aug 17, 2015 16:15:20 GMT
The best move I ever made was to start printing my pictures at home. I love that I can just choose a recent or old photo, print it to the size I want and start scrapbooking.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2015 18:45:01 GMT
anniefb thanks for the article, off to read it now! disneyer I'm with you as far as cost goes in general. But I sure would love it for special circumstances. Especially considering the cost it takes just for gas! crazy4scraps eeesh, how disappointing, especially with the cost of them! And these are the things sales people probably wouldn't tell me. IF I'm still considering lasers when I go shopping I will definitely take cardstock with me.
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Post by KikiPea on Aug 17, 2015 19:07:04 GMT
I always print right before I scrap, because I never know what I am going to be inspired to scrap. I print all of my pics at home, because, up until I decide what pics I want to scrap, I have no idea what size I want. Even when using Instagram pics, I may scrap 2 2x2, or 3x3 pics, or 1 4x4, or 5x5. I just never know. It would drive me nuts to have all of my pics the same size, or decide at the last minute that I want a different size.
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Post by PepsiGal on Aug 17, 2015 19:35:39 GMT
I always print at home on one of the two HP printers that we have. As of 15 years, none of mine have faded. I'm like most of the other posters, if I didn't print at home, I would never scrapbook. I can print in many different sizes even up to 13 x 19. In fact, I printed a dozen pictures to use tomorrow when I scrap again.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2015 19:37:53 GMT
I always print right before I scrap, because I never know what I am going to be inspired to scrap. I print all of my pics at home, because, up until I decide what pics I want to scrap, I have no idea what size I want. Even when using Instagram pics, I may scrap 2 2x2, or 3x3 pics, or 1 4x4, or 5x5. I just never know . It would drive me nuts to have all of my pics the same size , or decide at the last minute that I want a different size.This is one of the main reasons I would like it. To save money I will happily preplan my pages and pick-up the prints the next day, but I don't want to stop if I change my mind while I am working and am in the zone. Or even use a different photo.
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Post by anniefb on Aug 17, 2015 19:48:21 GMT
I do almost all my own printing at home now. I have a Canon Pixma and am very happy with the print quality.
Like others have mentioned, I like to be able to print a size that will work for a layout I have in mind, or for PL and I'm using a lot of smaller photos these days. It's just more convenient than uploading an order somewhere and then finding the pics are the wrong orientation or size and you need to redo them anyway.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 17, 2015 22:48:48 GMT
I agree, my process is hampered by not having enough or the right photos printed. I found our local CVS did a wonderful job. They were never busy so I could send some over pictures and in an hour go pick them up. Then they had that CC breach about a month ago and still not online. You can still go to the store but it's double the cost. I am temped by at home printing but can't justify the expensive vs. convenience. BTW- I have read that other people swear by the Epson Charm for exact 4x6 prints. My issue with the Charm is that like the original Picturemate that I bought years ago, it's an inkjet. If you only print photos now and then with long gaps of time in between, you will likely have issues with the nozzles clogging, constantly having to clean the print heads, etc. all of which will affect how many prints you get per cartridge. With the Picturemate I had, this was a constant issue. I don't think I ever got more than 25-30 prints per cartridge when they were supposed to do 100+ prints. It was so frustrating that I literally threw the thing in the trash even though I spent a hundred bucks on it and easily four times that on ink that ended up being wasted with repeated print head cleanings and very few usable prints. It was a total piece of junk. I have had many Epson inkjet printers over the years and they do make nice printers that give great results provided that they are used very frequently. If you are only going to use it sporadically to print pics for scrapping be prepared to have trouble. Keep in mind that standard size photo quality printers typically have 4-6 cartridges, those cartridges are expensive, and if even one of them runs out of ink you have to replace it before you can continue printing (even plain black text won't print if one of the colored inks runs out). The Picturemate ink cartridges have all of the ink colors in one cartridge which is even worse, so if only one of the colors runs out, you're replacing the whole thing. I guess if I know I'm going to have to print 100 or more photos over a short amount of time in order to use up a whole ink cartridge before it dries up, it's probably going to be worth my while to just have them printed at Costco or somewhere. It's so much cheaper and the quality is as good or better with a whole lot less frustration. Just some more things to consider.
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Post by kamilla on Aug 18, 2015 8:34:07 GMT
I print at home on my Epson printer, unless I've been on a holiday and have like hundreds of photos I want to print, then I send them to Persnickety. I find that printing at home give me more flow in my scrapbooking, and I'm always up to date, which I love. And it's also useful to get photos printed in the right size, and not have to choose size/borders or no borders before actually putting them in my project life album.
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Post by saralovesducks on Aug 18, 2015 10:40:30 GMT
My PL pictures I print at home, mostly with my Selphy, but I use my Canon Pixma for bigger/other size photos (like 6x8 full page). When I scrap a trip, I send them to Photobox since they're usually too many and the balance expense/convenience shifts!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 12:20:17 GMT
The best move I ever made was to start printing my pictures at home. I love that I can just choose a recent or old photo, print it to the size I want and start scrapbooking. Yes, exactly that! I have an Epson Charm because I like matte photos. Love my Charm!
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Post by dewryce on Aug 18, 2015 12:54:28 GMT
Thank you for the feedback ladies, I appreciate it! Just last night I could only partially complete a page because I need to print several photos in different sizes. I have an older HP Photosmart I will play with, I don't think e have ever even hooked it up LOL
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