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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 18:02:06 GMT
While I see nothing wrong with there video, this is one of my sorority recruitment videos. We are more than a bunch of pretty faces. I love my sorority and the friends I made there.
Chi OmegaI thought this one was so much better -- they look like a fun bunch of girls. And diverse -- they had blondes, brunettes, and redheads. I thought the first one was over-sexualized. I guess I am more of a prude than I thought, but closeup shots of behinds in short skirts going up stairs, sticking her ass up in the air for the football player, and closeups of bouncing boobs in bikini tops are projecting an image that turns me off completely. It's an advertisement for blonde party girls. I thought sororities were supposed to be more than that. We didn't have any sororities like that at my college, and I'm really glad my daughter didn't get involved in one.
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Post by craftykitten on Aug 18, 2015 18:26:13 GMT
I've never really known much about the Greek system. Just watching those two videos - they are worlds apart in the image they present. The first one was all bouncing hair and long legs and flirting with footballers; the second was girls who had formed friendships and supported each other, as well as all the charity/study stuff it included.
You can't force diversity, especially if there aren't the people there to make it happen. And I don't really support positive discrimination either, because that usually comes with a backswing of negativity. But I do a lot of my work around inclusivity and diversity, and part of it involves looking at what you produce with a critical eye. Someone should have looked at this video and realised that it makes them look like Stepford wives, and done something to change that.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 18, 2015 18:38:05 GMT
"Stepford wives"
^^^ thank you!! I got a cult-ish sort of vibe from it when I watched it, and this phrase fits perfectly, in my opinion.
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Post by PaperAngel on Aug 18, 2015 18:47:17 GMT
While IMHO the sorority/chapter should have the freedom to post any video(s) it chooses, I'm surprised an alumna, faculty advisor, or other mature adult did not stop the dissemination of this video. It risks these young women being (perhaps unfairly) labeled as a group of shallow, ditzy bimbos that want to have fun, rather than intelligent, socially-aware students who are leaders, philanthropists, & best friends. This video, &/or the negative reaction it received, may discourage some women (&/or their parents) from considering this sorority. On the positive side, the sorority could appease the naysayers & become more diverse by admitting the young men inevitably in line to join!
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Post by marmargirl on Aug 18, 2015 19:41:39 GMT
While I see nothing wrong with there video, this is one of my sorority recruitment videos. We are more than a bunch of pretty faces. I love my sorority and the friends I made there.
Chi OmegaI missed this the first time around, wow what a big difference! I so agree! This video was very uplifting and real. Even at my age (44), I would want to know these girls. They were all unique and individual in appearance and seemed genuinely happy.
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Post by peano on Aug 18, 2015 20:53:47 GMT
I really need to be on the road now, but couldn't resist posting this one last thing. Just received an email from Southern Living about their article on the 17 Most Beautiful Sorority Houses. Thought it was rather ironic that the sorority in question was one of the 17. Southern Living - 17 Most Beautiful Sorority Houses. There are some beautiful houses on the list. My first impression of the Alpha Phi video is that certainly is one posh sorority house, compared to the ones I was in when I was rushing. I didn't think the video was overly sexual or suggestive, but compared to that delightful Chi O video someone else posted, which I thought did a really good job of conveying to rushees what sorority life was going to be about, it made those Alpha Phi girls look really vapid and superficial.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 20:57:42 GMT
Unfortunately, the perpetuate the stereotype of college sororities.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 18, 2015 21:08:56 GMT
I apologize if there is already a thread on this - I did a couple of searches and didn't see anything. The Alpha Phi sorority at the University of Alabama created this recruitment video: linkThey're being bashed for their lack of diversity, but personally, I think the larger problem is that the objectification and sexualization that is the video's main feature. I mean, if that's how they want to portray themselves, that's fine, but as the parent who writes the checks for my child's college education, no way in hell would I be paying my daughter's dues, house fees, etc. to a group that chooses to look like a teaser film for Girls Gone Wild. Thoughts? Diversity is represented by the pretty, perky and thin white girls with dark hair. Yeah, that's real life in Alabama in 2015. Definitely a house where you could count on being able to find plenty of study partners... if you were studying modern human sexuality.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 18, 2015 21:14:41 GMT
I don't know anything about the controversy – although they do not look diverse in anyway – but I have a friend who is an alum and is very active in their recruiting. She post things on Facebook about them all the time! Her daughter is also a current member… i'll have to ask her about this. I may not know anything about you or the UA, but if your friend and her daughter have been members at this school, than I already know something about them. They are/were: White Quite attractive Thin Energetic Girl's girls Probably blonde They may be quite fun to be around, but that may only apply to other girls who are just like them. IDK. *edited to add this chapter at this school. Sorry I missed that earlier.
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Post by Merge on Aug 18, 2015 21:25:43 GMT
While I see nothing wrong with there video, this is one of my sorority recruitment videos. We are more than a bunch of pretty faces. I love my sorority and the friends I made there.
Chi OmegaIMO, this is 100x better. It emphasizes character, not appearance. I agree. That's the sort of fun college women should be promoting, IMO.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 18, 2015 21:26:00 GMT
I guess what rubbed me the wrong way was that the entire thing was about stereotypically hot girls being hot girls. I'm sorry, but the piggyback rides, the water floatie fight, the wink-wink as two girls in bathing suits walk off together hand in hand, bending over butt in the air to hike the football back to the admiring football player ... it seemed to me to be designed as much to appeal to the fraternity boys as anyone else. Or to make girls think if they join this sorority they'll be more attractive to guys. Whenever the subject of Greek stereotypes is brought up, people are quick to bring up the academic standards and the community service and talk about how Greeks are not how they are often portrayed. Well, this seems to be a sorority that actively embraces the "we're all about how cute we are, partying, and attracting guys" stereotype. And it's off-putting to me. We are four years from college and I wouldn't want my daughters to join any organization that promotes looks and sexuality above all else in recruiting new members. ETA: I guess I'm the only one who objects to eighteen-year-old young women being recruited this way. Nope I am with you. Full Disclosure I was in a sorority in College, and I just went to youtube to see what my chapter had on line. The only video I found was somewhat similar in nature.. but the theme was Keep it Classy. Similar photos, some of girls in bikini's but it focused on the values of the sorority. It's here youtu.be/E3Hr9WC7IxQI think there is a world of difference from it and the one from Alabama. Maybe part of it is the quality of the video, the one from MSU looks like it was done by the sorority, the one from Alabama looks like it was much more professional. I would say my sorority has about as much diversity as it did in 1982... which is sad. I would have hoped we had evolved more in the last 30 years. I think that the Alabama video was made to focus on making the girls look hot. Not what I would think the National Sorority is wanting to promote, most sororities are about developing leaders, and the Alabama video is not all about any thing but looking hot and having fun! They look like a far more interesting chapter, to me.
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Post by Merge on Aug 18, 2015 21:31:09 GMT
I showed the UA video to my DH, who was in a fraternity in college, and his comment was, "That looks like my fantasy of what I thought/hoped sorority girls would be like when I was 18 and going through rush."
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 18, 2015 21:31:37 GMT
IMO, this is 100x better. It emphasizes character, not appearance. I agree. That's the sort of fun college women should be promoting, IMO. I'm pretty sure I saw a shirt my friend made for her dd's sisters.
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Post by Kelpea on Aug 18, 2015 22:21:22 GMT
I wasn't bothered by the video. DD's best friend is actually rushing this week at BAMA; I'd love her to get into this one: she has waist-length gorgeous natural red hair and blue eyes! She'd definitely make it look more diversified.
Having attended UGA, and seeing a lot of friends going to various SEC colleges (and now their kids), I wonder if it's more intense in the South versus other parts of the country; rushing, that it.
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