RHOC 8/25- spoilers

I noticed Heather's house has 14 bathrooms and they are all different. WOW just WOW - who needs that many bathrooms

Poor Meghan, I don't necessarily like her (i don't dislike her either) but Vicky is just too much. I wonder how she keeps any friends, she has her opinion and her opinions are the only ones that matter - She does this with each new Housewife though.

Shannon really needs to stop - she is such a mess and is only messing her kids up - her husband did her wrong either get over it or get out. Those kids deserve better!!! Just breaks my heart for those girls

How much of that fight with Vicky and Meghan ws scripted though - I was watching a show from last years RHONJ and noticed one of the husbands had his glasses on his shirt and they were cockeyed and they cut to the woman he was yelling and arguing with and right back to him and the glasses were perfectly straight. Made me think there was quite a bit of time in between the argument that had to be done and redone to perfection.

Oh what a train wreck! It's actually painful to watch Shannon... WHY on earth are they filming these scenes with the children??? WHY? It's beyond inappropriate and I honestly can't believe Bravo is airing this footage, and why Shannon & David are exposing the girls to their problems so openly. To me, they don't even try to be vague. I know Bravo is just concerned about ratings and money, but they hold some responsibility to protect those kids.

I actually jumped over to team Meghan last night. I don't know how things got turned around so much that she's being blamed for saying Brooks doesn't have cancer. Tamra is the one who asked the question, Meghan just relayed that conversation to Shannon. Vicki was vile toward her - and no one really stepped in to tell her she was wrong, except for Tamra, and Vicki basically ignored her.

What no one mentions Tamra, she's become boring?!

Normally I feel bad for Shannon, she's mentioned prior that it hadn't been that long and she'd been told to expect maybe 2 years to get past. So I always kind of want to cut her a break (and i'm a little obsessive myself so I figure I might obsess if I was in her position.) BUT seriously, who expects one birthday to make up for another one? He was cheating last year on her birthday and it seems she expected him to make up for it this year somehow. Having expectations tied to that is crazy and setting yourself up for disappointment! And the choice of restaurants - why would she let him choose? If she wanted to go out to celebrate her birthday she should have chosen her favorite restaurant and not left it up to him!! Seems like she wants him to be something he's not...wants him to lavish attention on her and surprise her, but he doesn't have the ability to do it. It's like knowing your husband isn't a good vacation planner, yet expecting him to pull it off and being angry when it sucks! I feel like she does that with David.

I haven't liked Meghan at all this seasons, she's annoyed me. But even more annoying is how her husband treats her. Honeymoon is definitely over there.

Hadn't heard about Kristen Taekman's husband. Was never fond of him.

I just finished watching. It was like a flashback to the Gretchen days, seeing Vickie meltdown and respond with absolute hypocrisy toward Meghan. I thought Meghan approached it well...explain how the situation came about and why it matters to her. Vickie just wouldn't listen- all she wants to do is scream. And what's with her 'praise Jesus' stuff lately? All of a sudden she's a fine Christian woman. Barf. If she would have actually listened, they could have gotten it settled- but Vickie never listens.

And WHY the gasp (and Shannon trying to intervene to tell Meghan she's out of line), when Meghan finally got exasperated and told Vickie she's an old, bitter woman? Vickie just got through calling her a 30 year old girl who hasn't lived life, or something like that. If you're going to use age to attack, be prepared for it to be used on you. Double Standard Vickie. Again.

I can't believe Tamra thinks giving Ryan over $7000 for his deposit is a good idea- especially without talking to Eddie. And I loved Vickie saying 'You need to talk to him. You're mrried ow. It's not just your money." I bet Meghan wanted to fall out of her chair.

I actually understand Shannon flashing back to last year at this time. I get it- its a process and she's learning to deal with a revised history. But she needs to quit letting this play out infront of the kids. It's ridiculous how she worries about every crumb that goes into their mouths, but she's exacerbating the emotional mayhem going on in their family. Is it a surprise that one (or more) or those girls seems to resent her? (ETA- I get why she was upset with him about the restaurant. It was a bad choice. Maybe he couldn't make up for last year- but he could certainly put a good effort in! And maybe she doesn't want to plan her own birthday. I'm like that too. Make a flipping effort and make a reservation at a nice place, guy- its not difficult. )

Heather's house in unreal. (I didn't realize Terry's brother died! I don't think they need his money for the house though.)
I guess, this is his baby- he is the one that insisted on building this big ass house- at least she's having fun getting it well appointed.

I think I liked Meghan more this episode than I ever have. She actually seemed level headed and kind of mature. I thought it was funny when she was talking to Shannon and Tamra and Shannon kept saying she didn't say anything to Vickie (come on!!) and then Tamra finally admitted she's the one who ended up filling her in on what was said by the psychic. How is Meghan the pot stirrer, when no one had to repeat any of that ridiculousness to Vickie? Heather didn't feel obligated to call Vickie- no doubt, she knew how ridiculous and potentially hurtful it was.

Meghan househunting...do people really describe what they're looking for, by price? Isn't it more like "I want this style, with these specifics...within this range." Not- "Jim wants to look at 3.5 million and I want to look at 1 million... " That just seemed weird.

These women like to imagine that we watch them and are so jealous of their fabulous lives, but all it does is make me grateful I'm not in their situation. Fake, snooty, and full of themselves...yeah, I'll take my boring middle class life. 

I don't think Meghan cares about Don, she just found a way perfect to twist things around and put her nose in Vicki's business. Vicki isn't old, and to call her old is to also call the other woman her age at the table old, it was really in poor taste and made Meghan look immature hence proving Vicki right.

There are double standards in life, you can call someone a skinny bitch but the skinny girl can not fire back and call the other girl fat. Same with age. And age does create maturity, just like baring children gives you experience. 

What I was saying is that Meghan's an eye for an eye attitude makes her look immature and petty to have to attack back with the same verbiage. It's as if she was sitting back plotting to get Vicki back for the comments on her step-daughter. That makes Meghan looks like an angry, vindictive person. Regardless of where the argument is going, you don't tell someone they are old. Vicki said her age made her...., Meghan just said you're old, and so what? Meghan is petty and small.

Look at the fights between Meghan and Shannon, Meghan attacks and attacks, then Shannon decides she's not worth her time and Meghan tells her to walk away. Meghan gets this look on her face when she makes her rude comments, she's just an unhappy, unpleasant person. In the car she said to Tamra "I know I'm right" she's way too full of herself.

I haven't watched this week's show yet, but re: the bolded--I think Shannon was out of line to actually have Vicki get up from the table during dinner when she didn't want to, and then toss what was said at Vicki. I think the timing really sucked. IMO, on the surface Shannon wanted to support Vicki and Brooks, yet the timing was to make herself feel better, because she felt guilty knowing what was said. An extra day wouldn't have hurt. I do think Vicki screaming in the restaurant was way over the top, too.

As for Meghan and the no cancer comment--if I remember correctly, the psychic said he didn't "feel" like Brooks' cancer was really there, and then said he didn't want to flat out accuse someone of lying, because he'd feel bad if he was wrong. He never said Brooks was lying, or didn't have cancer.

But, when Meghan shared that story at the gym, she said the psychic said Brooks didn't have cancer. That was wrong and not what he said.

I feel for Shannon. I can't imagine what it would be like to have a spouse cheat on you. But, girlfriend needs to either work on getting past it, or leave him. She keeps bringing it up. Maybe behind the scenes, she kept going on about how last year he was cheating on her, and this birthday better be great. Maybe he just got sick of it, knew that no matter what he did wouldn't be good enough, so just took her to a sports bar.

I still don't like Meghan. She really needs to keep her nose out of everyone's business. And I'm sorry, but your husband's ex-wife having cancer is not the same is your partner having cancer. She always wants to pretend that she knows exactly what someone is going through. No, sweetheart, you don't.

Heather and her over the top house. Who cares, Heather! Why do we want to see your constructions site? Show me when it's finished.

I did hear about the RHWNY spouse. At first he denied, then he switched his story and apologized. And I see that Snooki's (Jersey Shore) husband was also on the Ashley Madison website.

I think Shannon brought it up because she was hedging against Vickie's future wrath if she would've found out that they'd been talking about Brooks. Vickie would've gone off on Shannon for not being a true friend and telling her. I agree that Shannon's timing sucked, she could've told her before the dinner, or waited until the next day. 

I don't think Shannon is good at timing. She instantly calls David out for everything instead of waiting to discuss it later, in private. It's a shame that her kids are picking up on all of it. 

I don't think Meghan cares about Don, she just found a way perfect to twist things around and put her nose in Vicki's business. Vicki isn't old, and to call her old is to also call the other woman her age at the table old, it was really in poor taste and made Meghan look immature hence proving Vicki right.

There are double standards in life, you can call someone a skinny bitch but the skinny girl can not fire back and call the other girl fat. Same with age. And age does create maturity, just like baring children gives you experience.

I think some of the things we know, but don't see on the show really factor in, here. Vickie and Brooks asked Shannon for information on her doctor. Meghan asked for information, for Jim's ex. Shannon provided them with what they asked for, but Brooks and Vickie ignored it, while Leeann actually went to an appt. Shannon is frustrated by that. Meghan and Shannon made a bit of a connection because of Shannon helping her. So when the psychic said he wasn't feeling the cancer - Meghan AND Tamra both reacted with 'Brooks doesn't have cancer?' I thought Tamra seemed far more into the scandal of that possibility than Meghan did. When they saw Shannon- Meghan told her because they already had weird feelings about Brooks and his treatment plan. Tamra and Meghan were both under the impression the conversation would stay with them - and then Shannon pulls her sobbing dramatic dinner confrontation. WTH was that about? If she wanted to avoid Vickie's future wrath re: knowing and not telling her, she could have told her later, privately- without ruining dinner. Especially after Vickie said "Stop- keep it to yourself."

Why did Meghan get all of Vickie's wrath when Tamra said the same things she did?
Why didn't Tamra get any wrath after setting Brooks up for all their questions, by having the cake for him at Cut Fitness?
Tamra is totally downplaying what she said and how she said it, letting Meghan take all the blame.

Your point about the double standard could not be more wrong. There is no 'safe criticism'. If you shoot your mouth off about skinny people- don't be surprised if they call you fat. If you cry about how clueless young chicks are- don't be surprised when they start referring to you as an old granny. If you don't like that- modify what comes out of your mouth. If you put it out there, why would you expect to be immune from getting it back?

All season long, Vickie and Shannon have been on an endless loop, making cracks about Meghan's age. No matter what she does or says, it's because she's '30 and hasn't lived life'. You can't keep throwing that out there and not expect to get it back in your face. If you don't want someone to make cracks about your age- don't MAKE cracks about a person's age. Vickie has had the same MO for years and years. Criticize people for their imperfections and faults....but when the tables turn om her, she screams like a fishwife and tells people to MYOB. If you want people to MYOB, then you need to MYOB yourself.

The comments on this thread are always more entertaining than the show itself!

My husband would probably walk out of the restaurant if I treated him like Shannon was treating David in that sports bar, especially if it was in front of our kids. If Shanon cannot truly forgive David, then she needs to divorce him for the sake of their kids. I have a friend whose mother had a very public fling. The father supposedly forgave the mother, but he treated her like dirt for the next 30 years until she finally died. My friend has always said it would have been better if they had just gotten a divorce.

I don't understand why Shannon and David are talking about the details of the affair on national television. Now their daughters know that Dad had sex with their mom and with his mistress on mom's 50th birthday.

Add me to the list of those that think Shannon is making a mistake by airing the details of her marital problems on national tv. IMHO she is waaay oversharing and if nothing else, she should keep most of the details to herself!

Shannon acted terribly.  If you have "expectations" you need to communicate it to your husband.  No one can read your mind.  He has probably forgotten all about saying he would make this birthday special.  It was hard watching the kids get so upset.