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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:06:45 GMT
Do you think the younger generations will have a more complete record of their memories, given the prevalence of social media?
The reason I ask is because for no reason at all this morning I remembered going on an early-morning road trip with my mom. We stopped at Tim Horton's and she bought me a fancy donut. I haven't thought of that... Well, probably since it happened, maybe 20 years ago!
And then I thought that if I'd had a cell phone/camera back then I would have totally Instagrammed that donut. And it made me wonder what other small forgotten memories I might have a record of if I was a teenager today.
So.. Do you think our younger generation will remember more? Or less because there are so many documented coffees and donuts now that none of them will seem special? Or will the ease of retrieving archived photos/posts someday be a huge headache -- I know I get overwhelmed with our external hard drives of saved digital files. I can only imagine how hard it would be to archive my life if I had started saving it all as a young teen.
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Post by brandy327 on Aug 26, 2015 1:24:50 GMT
I'd like to think that they'd remember more...but I'm not so sure. My dh, for example, went to Disney with his grandparents when he was 7 or so. He has photos of the time there. But yet he says he only truly remembers the plane ride there and one other thing (I forget what). I'd like to think that even if they can't remember more, they'll at least have the photos to look back on. I LOVE looking at photos and plan on scanning ALL of my childhood photos when we visit my mom next summer in Michigan. While it's a different format now, my kids also love looking at photos from their younger years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 1:49:02 GMT
I have a horrible memory and blocked out most of painful teenage years. I wish I had more photographs of that time because I don't remember any of the good times.
I agree it will be a challenge for this generation to keep track of everything due to the vast number of photographs they take. Plus, I read somewhere most of those photos get deleted and are never printed or saved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 1:51:24 GMT
Plus, I read somewhere most of those photos get deleted and are never printed or saved. True. I also wonder about the longevity of services/sites like Facebook or Instagram that are "supposed" to archive your stuff. We all know by now that the Internet is forever until someone closes down your favourite website.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 26, 2015 1:51:46 GMT
As long as people still continue to print hard copies, websites crash, hard drives fail, etc etc. I have way less hard copies of my photos from my teenage and young adult life compared to what my parents have.
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Post by leeny on Aug 26, 2015 3:49:07 GMT
I just talked about this with my kids this weekend. They are 35,32 & 29 and two are married, one has a child. I asked if they would want all the photos I have both printed and stored in boxes and scrapbooked. They agreed they didn't want them all but that they have a lot of memories in their head and aren't interested in looking at photos to retrieve those memories. They also don't want most of our stuff either!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 4:10:21 GMT
Experts have said that in the short term the current trend to imaging all of our life means there is more out there. but the long term, say 100 years from now there will be fair less in past generations. Social media gets abandoned (myspace anyone?) passwords get forgotten so that info is no longer available to the account owner, programs that can show the images change so the old formates get outdated (who still has a floppy disc drive?). If someone passes away unexpectedly all of their online memoirs are locked unlike the print age where the family would find albums of photos, handwritten diaries and such that could be passed on.
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Post by PLurker on Aug 26, 2015 4:21:04 GMT
Experts have said that in the short term the current trend to imaging all of our life means there is more out there. but the long term, say 100 years from now there will be fair less in past generations. Social media gets abandoned (myspace anyone?) passwords get forgotten so that info is no longer available to the account owner, programs that can show the images change so the old formates get outdated (who still has a floppy disc drive?). If someone passes away unexpectedly all of their online memoirs are locked unlike the print age where the family would find albums of photos, handwritten diaries and such that could be passed on. I agree with volt. Just seems like digital and in the cloud stuff can much more easily be lost forever...poof. Hard copies may be set aside, misplaced but are still there, more easily found. There will be less evidence of their (digi-age) existence. And, I think there are SO MANY photos taken now, that just like a computer, your brain's hard drive has go to get full and can't recall everything. Kids these days take more photos in a day than I did at that age in a month, heck maybe a year! They can't possibly remember most. At some point it has got to become just noise for the eyes. My kids used to tease me when it would take me longer to recall something. I always told them I had more info in my brain to go through to pull up than their empty little heads and warned them "just wait". As teens, I swear I can tell the difference already now that their brains a slowly getting a bit more "cluttered".
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Post by Why on Aug 26, 2015 4:54:19 GMT
My dil used to take an develop film pictures. Now she snaps them with her phone and never does anything with them. I asked her for some pictures a while back and she said she had a new phone and only had a few on it. Old phone and pictures are gone
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Post by houston249 on Aug 27, 2015 2:35:25 GMT
I remember planning each shot on the roll of film. One of the cake, one of the birthday girl, one of me and the birthday girl. You get the idea.
Nothing was more exciting than a roll of 36. Sometimes you could squeeze out a few more pictures on the roll!! Then when you picked up the developed film, everyone would crowd around you to look and we all got to relive the memories again. Oh those were the days!
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Post by milocat on Aug 27, 2015 3:07:49 GMT
Maybe just the act of taking the photo, writing the caption and posting it online will help them to remember. But they don't just take a "roll or two of film" a year. They take, delete and share thousands of photos. Taking photos of every single meal & flower, 47 selfies in a row is going to be a lot of useless information in your memory. Even if Instagram is around in 15 years you could have thousands just on that one site alone and there is no organization there so how would you ever scroll through and find something if you wanted to look for it? Yes I've also heard the "no I can't send you that photo it was on my old phone/tablet and it's gone now". I don't know anyone except scrapbookers that print photos anymore. Then they are often printing all their pictures and are overwhelmed by them all. I think a nice balance would be review your year and "print a couple rolls of film". So print 50 pictures a year so you at least have a paper copy but not so much that you are overwhelmed with the volume.
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Post by psoccer on Aug 27, 2015 4:28:13 GMT
My 17 year old daughter prints her photos off of her phone. She gets doubles and drops them off my desk so I can scrapbook them. There is hope!
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Post by PLurker on Aug 27, 2015 4:43:43 GMT
My 17 year old daughter prints her photos off of her phone. She gets doubles and drops them off my desk so I can scrapbook them. There is hope! Thatta Girl! Mine gives me digital copies so I can do with as I please but your DD goes the extra step!
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Post by jackietex on Aug 27, 2015 5:13:18 GMT
My children rarely print photographs, so I think a lot of it will be lost. Makes me sad.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Aug 27, 2015 13:16:35 GMT
Experts have said that in the short term the current trend to imaging all of our life means there is more out there. but the long term, say 100 years from now there will be fair less in past generations. Social media gets abandoned (myspace anyone?) passwords get forgotten so that info is no longer available to the account owner, programs that can show the images change so the old formates get outdated (who still has a floppy disc drive?). If someone passes away unexpectedly all of their online memoirs are locked unlike the print age where the family would find albums of photos, handwritten diaries and such that could be passed on. For this reason I have one piece of paper stashed that has all of my login/pw to everything. The only person I've told the location to is my Mom.
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Post by sugarmama on Aug 27, 2015 14:18:21 GMT
My daughter, 19, recently went with me to Hobby Lobby and I bought her an album and supplies to do the project life system. She said, "Mom, I don't have time to scrapbook like you do!"
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Post by whipea on Aug 27, 2015 14:33:05 GMT
No. I think one aspect is that now people just take phone photos and really do not commit events/times to memory. Maybe on a subconscious level they think " I can always look at the photo on my phone, so I do not need to live in the moment or make the effort to recall and give the event any extra reflection ". I find myself doing this and then realize what I am doing and take the extra minute or two to reflect and become more mindful of what is going on in my life and not depend just on devises to build memories of my world. Unfortunately I feel many young ones are going to lose a lot of their memories due to their dependence on technology with minimal face to face communication and truly experiencing and being in the moment.
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Post by lbp on Aug 27, 2015 14:36:06 GMT
My DS and his girlfriend hardly ever even take a photo! They will occasionally post a pic of them somewhere special but I don't think either one of them has ever printed a photo.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Aug 27, 2015 14:51:50 GMT
Great question. I'm not sure. When I go to download my photos (we organize by month and year folders) some months I don't have any.
Because I don't scrapbook anymore, I think I take less photos, in general.
As for FB, I rarely post pictures of myself on there. My DH posts some of us from time to time.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 27, 2015 15:52:20 GMT
My boys do send me their photos and I scrap them. When they do something special they even send me pictures of their food and little incidentals.
They, however, have their entire lives scrapped if it is something I knew about. I wonder how my life would have looked if my mom had scrapped it. When I scrapped my teen years I had a lot of emotional pain reliving that stuff, whereas my mom might have had a more positive spin on it.
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Post by mallie on Aug 27, 2015 18:32:39 GMT
I don't know anyone under the age of 40 who prints photos or puts them in frames. They don't seem to care about saving all those photos they take. I had a coworker, as an example, who had ALL of her kids' photos on her phone. No back ups. No prints. The phone died, the photos were lost. She shrugged. Seems typical.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 19:03:33 GMT
I don't think they will have a more complete record of their memories, it all ends up in the cloud. I also don't think they care about preserving memories for others to see after they die. I know the older I get, I fall into this category. I live an uneventful life and have average and below average kids. It's interesting to hear about my ancestors, but if I didn't know about them, I wouldn't care. I care more about medical history than anything. I think what we record or reflect back on is usually glossed over. I know I'm this way with scrapbooking. I don't like to make pages about bad things that happened because it's depressing. I also don't feel the need to write it down for others to read when it's none of their business. If I do write something down, it gets thrown away. I know somewhere in my basement is some journals from many years ago that will get tossed when I find them.
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Post by threegirls on Aug 27, 2015 19:07:10 GMT
I love this commercial for Canon printers. It addresses the use of Facebook as a substitute for printed photos. It's funny. Commercial My mother-in-law used to own a photo processing lab. I would get all of my photos printed for free. Dream come true until she went out of business. Even she doesn't print photos anymore, she just stores them on her phone. You would think she would have learned how to back up her photos because her previous phone was stolen and she lost all of her photos. I still print my photos and I'm awaiting the return of Costco's photo web site.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 27, 2015 19:11:42 GMT
If I didn't scrapbook, my grandchildren would have few, if any, actual printed photos. DS and former DIL take photos only with their phones. I know they don't back them up, so anything on old phones was lost. I have given them two different cameras, but they never use them. It breaks my heart, because the quality is so much better on a camera.
Luckily, they at least send me most of the photos on their phones via text. I save them and print some of the them for scrapbooking.
ETA - I guess if they posted the photos on Facebook, they are backed up that way, at least.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 28, 2015 3:12:41 GMT
I don't know anyone under the age of 40 who prints photos or puts them in frames. They don't seem to care about saving all those photos they take. I had a coworker, as an example, who had ALL of her kids' photos on her phone. No back ups. No prints. The phone died, the photos were lost. She shrugged. Seems typical. Maybe I'm not the majority, but I'm in my thirties, print my photos, frame them, and scrapbook. All hope is not lost.
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Post by melanell on Aug 28, 2015 3:31:41 GMT
My mom was pretty darn good about recording memories, and she was amazingly good at just remembering stuff, too. So my kids probably won't have any better recorded memories than I did. However, in general, yes, I agree with you. AND, I think that Facebook definitely helps me to record the little day to day anecdotes and such.
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Aug 28, 2015 5:57:34 GMT
I think this generation will definitely record more moments big and small then my parent's generation or even I do but having said that I still wish sometimes for the days of film and camera where you were so excited to see what pictures worked and in some cases didn't lol but more then that back in the day we actually put them in albums for the most part. Now with the digital era all our "memories" are on a screen or on a social media site or ugh on our phones.
I miss the days of sitting around and looking at photo albums and I think this generation will for the most part miss out on that part of growing up and reminiscing too.
I was going thru my digial photos on picasa the other day and I was like hmmm I have no photos after Jan of this year and then I remembered that is when I got a smart phone and now that I have that I don't even dig out my fancy Canon Rebel Digital camera and I have yet to put my photos from my phone on to at least my laptop.
Digital has its advantages and I guess social media does too but ugh I have 1000's of photos on picasa that will probably never see the light of day as a hard copy photo ugh.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 28, 2015 11:43:35 GMT
I think the technology literate will save more memories... especially the small memories that many consider pointless to remember. I strongly disagree with people saying that people do not print pictures anymore... yes they do, but not in the traditional way. They are using portable printers, personal printers but just not sending them out to be printed. And that's okay. I think it comes down to the person... there have always been people who don't give a shit about photography or preserving memories and consider that a waste of time. There are others who are the opposite and very conscious of that. That will not change in the future... we will always have people who don't care about stuff and those who do.
It's annoying to hear sweeping generalizations about people, but it always happens on this kind of thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 17:00:27 GMT
I think the technology literate will save more memories... especially the small memories that many consider pointless to remember. I strongly disagree with people saying that people do not print pictures anymore... yes they do, but not in the traditional way. They are using portable printers, personal printers but just not sending them out to be printed. And that's okay. I think it comes down to the person... there have always been people who don't give a shit about photography or preserving memories and consider that a waste of time. There are others who are the opposite and very conscious of that. That will not change in the future... we will always have people who don't care about stuff and those who do. It's annoying to hear sweeping generalizations about people, but it always happens on this kind of thread. Followed closely by Christmas tradition threads. As well as "Should children be in allowed in nice restaurants?" threads.
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