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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 3, 2015 16:37:27 GMT
So my Mom has become an ancestry dot com junkie. She's got it bad. We both did the DNA test and it confirmed things we already knew with a surprise or two on mine from my Dad's side. *insert evil laugh here*
But because of that test and the ancestors it linked us to on the site she now knows, so far, we have three ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. She knew of one on her Mothers side. Her Great Aunt was a DAR member, but the paper work has been lost over time. So now she wants to start the application process to prove the lineage.
Have any RefuPeas done this? What all do they need to prove the line?
TIA
FYI the whole ancestry site is pretty badass. In just 2 months she's traced my Grandmother's line all the way back to 1077!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:44:58 GMT
I know at one time that you had to have an active member relative to join. I can't imagine that it would hard to join today. I don't think it is a popular as it used to be.
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Post by MerryMom on Sept 3, 2015 17:41:20 GMT
If the DAR number or paperwork on file for the great aunt can be located, your mother would have to prove her relationship to the great aunt via birth certificates. The relative who was a DAR member, doesn't have to be an active member as many times, the person has died. link in the link, if you scroll towards the bottom of the page, you can enter the relative's name and determine if the Revolutionary War service has been recorded and verified. |
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Post by happymomma on Sept 3, 2015 17:46:37 GMT
Cool! I hope she finds the process easy.
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 3, 2015 18:18:20 GMT
I am wondering why anyone would want to join this organization in this day and age. I was a member for many years as was my grandmother and great grandmother. That organization exists to celebrate legal marriages and legitimate offspring. If you are a black person who has an ancestor who fought in the American Revolution and anywhere along the way they were not of a legitimate birth when for example, black people were prohibited by law from marrying, then they cannot belong. so basically you gain membership for absolutely nothing you ever did all the way down to whether or not you were conceived out of wedlock.
I used to keep my membership because of my strong desire to use the resources of the DAR library in Washington DC. when I made a special trip there they treated me like any other tourist and I got nothing, not even admission to the museum - I paid full price like everyone else.
I have belonged to 3 chapters in 3 states. We never did anything other than have teas and luncheons. We never talked about genealogy or ancestors or anything. I really question why anyone would support this organization anymore. It is a hold over from times of discrimination and classism and exclusion. If you sincerely have questions ask me. As far as I am concerned it is a racist organization under the guise of a connection to someone along the family tree who fought in the American Revolution and nothing more.
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Post by gillyp on Sept 3, 2015 18:39:54 GMT
FYI the whole ancestry site is pretty badass. In just 2 months she's traced my Grandmother's line all the way back to 1077! I am a complete genealogy junkie and can understand your excitement.  I know this doesn't relate to your query but can I just gently say that a huge amount of information on trees on Ancestry is wrong. People tend to copy and paste and collect numbers of ancestors without actually seeing any documentary proof. I have found members of my family in trees, for example, where some parents were down as being born after their children had died, others where the family were born in Birmingham, England but are recorded as being born in Birmingham, Alabama (an easy mistake to make if you are American but a whole ocean away!). Ancestry has some amazing resources, I've been a world subscriber to them for years, just don't believe what you read on the trees online without checking it out yourself.  |
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 3, 2015 18:48:04 GMT
I am wondering why anyone would want to join this organization in this day and age. I was a member for many years as was my grandmother and great grandmother. That organization exists to celebrate legal marriages and legitimate offspring. If you are a black person who has an ancestor who fought in the American Revolution and anywhere along the way they were not of a legitimate birth when for example, black people were prohibited by law from marrying, then they cannot belong. so basically you gain membership for absolutely nothing you ever did all the way down to whether or not you were conceived out of wedlock. I used to keep my membership because of my strong desire to use the resources of the DAR library in Washington DC. when I made a special trip there they treated me like any other tourist and I got nothing, not even admission to the museum - I paid full price like everyone else. I have belonged to 3 chapters in 3 states. We never did anything other than have teas and luncheons. We never talked about genealogy or ancestors or anything. I really question why anyone would support this organization anymore. It is a hold over from times of discrimination and classism and exclusion. If you sincerely have questions ask me. As far as I am concerned it is a racist organization under the guise of a connection to someone along the family tree who fought in the American Revolution and nothing more. I had heard things like this about them as well. But in researching our local chapter, they do a lot of charity work in our community and that is something I would like to be a part of. Also there were multiple black members here. I read the history of the first black woman to be accepted into DAR in the 70s, it said membership approval is decided per chapter, not the organization as a whole. There are always going to be chapters that are assholes. |
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Post by miominmio on Sept 3, 2015 18:49:11 GMT
If you haven't seen the primary sources yourself, DO NOT believe what you find on ancestry.com! Finding reliable sources prior to 1500 is difficult (many records have been lost, and in many instances there never was any records to begin with) and there are lots of trees where people claim mythological figures among their ancestors.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 3, 2015 18:52:57 GMT
FYI the whole ancestry site is pretty badass. In just 2 months she's traced my Grandmother's line all the way back to 1077! I am a complete genealogy junkie and can understand your excitement. I know this doesn't relate to your query but can I just gently say that a huge amount of information on trees on Ancestry is wrong. People tend to copy and paste and collect numbers of ancestors without actually seeing any documentary proof. I have found members of my family in trees, for example, where some parents were down as being born after their children had died, others where the family were born in Birmingham, England but are recorded as being born in Birmingham, Alabama (an easy mistake to make if you are American but a whole ocean away!). Ancestry has some amazing resources, I've been a world subscriber to them for years, just don't believe what you read on the trees online without checking it out yourself. She is checking all the documents and dates as she goes to make sure its the correct Gustav or Percy, etc. She gets a lead that leads to this and that and I find her online at 2am...down the rabbit hole lol . |
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Post by jesq on Sept 3, 2015 18:55:55 GMT
My DD was going to join, but the birth certificate issue can be a sticky one. DD's qualifying ancestor was on her father's side. A cousin or aunt of DH's father went through the process, so DD only had to establish her relationship to her, through her grandfather. Problem is, DH's father is an ass. We haven't had any contact with him in 15 years and have no way to get a copy of his birth certificate, which is required.
I know that was clear as mud.
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 3, 2015 18:57:47 GMT
I am wondering why anyone would want to join this organization in this day and age. I was a member for many years as was my grandmother and great grandmother. That organization exists to celebrate legal marriages and legitimate offspring. If you are a black person who has an ancestor who fought in the American Revolution and anywhere along the way they were not of a legitimate birth when for example, black people were prohibited by law from marrying, then they cannot belong. so basically you gain membership for absolutely nothing you ever did all the way down to whether or not you were conceived out of wedlock. I used to keep my membership because of my strong desire to use the resources of the DAR library in Washington DC. when I made a special trip there they treated me like any other tourist and I got nothing, not even admission to the museum - I paid full price like everyone else. I have belonged to 3 chapters in 3 states. We never did anything other than have teas and luncheons. We never talked about genealogy or ancestors or anything. I really question why anyone would support this organization anymore. It is a hold over from times of discrimination and classism and exclusion. If you sincerely have questions ask me. As far as I am concerned it is a racist organization under the guise of a connection to someone along the family tree who fought in the American Revolution and nothing more. I had heard things like this about them as well. But in researching our local chapter, they do a lot of charity work in our community and that is something I would like to be a part of. Also there were multiple black members here. I read the history of the first black woman to be accepted into DAR in the 70s, it said membership approval is decided per chapter, not the organization as a whole. There are always going to be chapters that are assholes. Well of course if you are determined but joining them for their 'charitable work' is not a strong endorsement. Plenty of organizations do honorable charity work without that history. If it meets your needs then I can't deter it. |
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Post by melodyesch on Sept 3, 2015 18:59:16 GMT
FYI the whole ancestry site is pretty badass. In just 2 months she's traced my Grandmother's line all the way back to 1077! I know this doesn't relate to your query but can I just gently say that a huge amount of information on trees on Ancestry is wrong. People tend to copy and paste and collect numbers of ancestors without actually seeing any documentary proof. This. My Dad's uncle has a connection going back to the early 1700's that I was thrilled to find. But somewhere in the 1800's he's made a big assumption that simply cannot be proven, as the courthouse that would have held the records burned down in the early 1900's. And since the name is very common, although it *could* be right, it's just as likely that it isn't. |
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 3, 2015 19:00:13 GMT
I had heard things like this about them as well. But in researching our local chapter, they do a lot of charity work in our community and that is something I would like to be a part of. Also there were multiple black members here. I read the history of the first black woman to be accepted into DAR in the 70s, it said membership approval is decided per chapter, not the organization as a whole. There are always going to be chapters that are assholes. Well of course if you are determined but joining them for their 'charitable work' is not a strong endorsement. Plenty of organizations do honorable charity work without that history. If it meets your needs then I can't deter it. I wouldn't call it determined. I think my Mom is more interested in just proving the connection that we had ancestors in the Rev. War. I can do charity work anywhere, it doesn't need to be there. And it will depend on how much we have to commit to and dues cost. Right now its all just research. |
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Post by Anita on Sept 3, 2015 19:05:12 GMT
My DD was going to join, but the birth certificate issue can be a sticky one. DD's qualifying ancestor was on her father's side. A cousin or aunt of DH's father went through the process, so DD only had to establish her relationship to her, through her grandfather. Problem is, DH's father is an ass. We haven't had any contact with him in 15 years and have no way to get a copy of his birth certificate, which is required. I know that was clear as mud. Do you know where he was born? You should be able to get a copy directly from the county of his birth, as long as you are a relative with a "legitimate reason" for the request. Same with death certificates. That might differ by state, though, so your mileage may vary. |
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Post by melanell on Sept 3, 2015 22:07:04 GMT
I have an ancestor who was in the Revolutionary War, but I have not opted to send in an application to the DAR. If I ever change my mind, I am fortunate in that this particular line is already represented in the organization and proving my connection would be very simple.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 3, 2015 22:39:02 GMT
Both of my grandmothers were members of the DAR, but no one on either side of my family has pursued a membership since.
I do wish I had access to their genealogy research though, I bet it would be really interesting.
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