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Post by grammanisi on Sept 12, 2015 3:07:42 GMT
It's Toco. My daughter and granddaughter were over this evening and we heard whining on the deck. We looked out and he was standing on his back legs on the deck. I opened the door and he came right on in. He smells so bad from cigarette smoke that I am running water to give him a bath.  I don't know what to do now. Original post from last week
UPDATE: we are going to keep him. The lady from the rescue talked to his family and they don't want him.  We just don't have the heart to send him somewhere else, when it is so obvious that he wants to live with us. Our dogs are perfectly fine with him, now.
I went down the street that he came from and it is 7/10s of a mile to our house. The little guy had quite a journey, twice!
I am thinking about calling him Coco instead of Toco, my husband thinks I'm nuts and I am not going to disagree! |
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Post by alexa11 on Sept 12, 2015 3:11:32 GMT
He obviously wants to live with you!!!
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Post by scorpeao on Sept 12, 2015 3:14:14 GMT
Poor baby. He's probably tired of smoking cigarettes.
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Post by worrywart on Sept 12, 2015 3:17:17 GMT
Awwww obviously he is not happy in his home and likes your house better!
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Post by grammanisi on Sept 12, 2015 3:26:27 GMT
I would love to keep him, but it's not really an option right now. We have three and take care of our 2month old great grandson. That's enough for me!
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Post by Drew on Sept 12, 2015 3:39:12 GMT
Keep Taco around for a while and see how it goes. Going from an odd number to an even number isn't hard, the other way around is... just like with kids.  |
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Post by DinCA on Sept 12, 2015 4:02:07 GMT
He is so cute! Did he seem happy to see his owners when they were reunited? Six blocks is kind of a long way for a little dog - he must really have wanted to return to your house. I have no idea what you do now. Do you know how to contact his owners or do you have to wait to see if they show up looking for him?
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Post by georgiapea on Sept 12, 2015 4:19:56 GMT
Oh, I hope you can manage to not send him back. He must not be kept secure at the other house and might get hit by a car trying to get back to you. I have a little guy very like him that we found on the side of a road in pathetic shape.
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Post by leannec on Sept 12, 2015 5:01:56 GMT
He definitely wants to come and live with you |
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Post by SabrinaM on Sept 12, 2015 5:57:14 GMT
Pets are kind of like kids in that there is "1" and "more than 1." What's one more? |
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Post by Nicole in TX on Sept 12, 2015 11:00:30 GMT
I think I just might not let the owners know he was there. Let them come look for him.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Sept 12, 2015 11:50:59 GMT
Doesn't sound like they are great pet owners if they can't keep track of him! Are there leash laws? He's tiny, I can't believe he's traveling 6 blocks without getting himself killed on a street somewhere. Poor guy seems to really want to live at your house.
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Post by gritzi on Sept 12, 2015 11:50:55 GMT
It sounds like Taco knows where is home, and it's not the one he just left. I hope there's a way you can keep him.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 12, 2015 12:43:00 GMT
Keep Taco around for a while and see how it goes. Except that he belongs to someone else. Maybe that family thought they had secured the escape route and he made another one. Maybe he finds a way out when they open the door. And maybe they really are crappy owners. The point is, she doesn't know one way or another what kin of owners they are and she can't just keep a dog that isn't hers, especially when she knows who the owners are. |
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Post by gailoh on Sept 12, 2015 12:57:19 GMT
""Doesn't sound like they are great pet owners if they can't keep track of him! Are there leash laws? He's tiny, I can't believe he's traveling 6 blocks without getting himself killed on a street somewhere. Poor guy seems to really want to live at your house.""...
this is how I think, one more child is not that bad and the so called owners don't seem to be good parents or care if he gets killed out there and he would not be so thin if he was being cared for properly. If it were me ...he would stay and this is a person who cares for around 15 cats ,we are a dead end road; drop off zone, so I take care of them...same with another neighbor.
Please if you can take him in...he knows you care or he would not have come back to you. Hugs
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Post by grammanisi on Sept 12, 2015 14:02:08 GMT
I am so torn. I talked to the lady from the rescue that found his family last weekend. She said I can either give him back to them or take him to the shelter and explain everything and give them the owners info and let them handle it. She also said that she could see if they would relinquish him to the rescue who could find him a safe home.
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Post by txdancermom on Sept 12, 2015 14:22:52 GMT
I think let the rescue people handle it - let them talk to the owners, and see if they really want to keep him. However if they take him back and he comes back again, I think he has made his choice....
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Post by littlemama on Sept 12, 2015 14:29:12 GMT
I'm not sure what you are torn about. He belongs to someone else. The rescue has said they will handle it. You have stated that you don't want the dog. Turn him over to the rescue and let them handle it.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Sept 12, 2015 14:36:58 GMT
I think I just might not let the owners know he was there. Let them come look for him. I was thinking the exact same thing!  |
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Post by Nicole in TX on Sept 12, 2015 14:38:52 GMT
Keep Taco around for a while and see how it goes. Except that he belongs to someone else. Maybe that family thought they had secured the escape route and he made another one. Maybe he finds a way out when they open the door. And maybe they really are crappy owners. The point is, she doesn't know one way or another what kin of owners they are and she can't just keep a dog that isn't hers, especially when she knows who the owners are. Like I said, if they care, they will come look for him. It is not the OPs job to keep returning a dog that obviously is not well taken care of. |
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Post by linda~lou on Sept 12, 2015 15:29:35 GMT
I'm so sorry, what a difficult situation. The owners don't seem to be taking good care of him, he had fleas, not fixed, smells like smoke and now he's run away again. These owners don't deserve this beautiful little guy. It breaks my heart.
I honestly don't know what the right thing to do is. Yes, he should be returned to his owners, but at what cost to Toco's best interest. Maybe keep him for a bit, just to see if owners come looking for him. They know he ran away to your house before, if they really wanted him, your house would be the first place they would look. If they don't show up, seems apparent they are not too concerned about their pup.
If they don't claim him after a week or so, take him to the shelter, explain how you don't think he's being well cared for and ask that they find him a good loving home.
Good luck and in the meantime, give that baby a big hug and love him up.
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Post by circusjohnson on Sept 12, 2015 15:55:05 GMT
I am kind of surprised at how many people are saying keep him. He's not your dog you can't just keep him because he may or may not have good owners. You don't know them or the circumstances surrounding how he is out again. Take him to the rescue or back to his owners and have a conversation with them. Don't keep him.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 12, 2015 16:08:43 GMT
Keep Taco around for a while and see how it goes. Going from an odd number to an even number isn't hard, the other way around is... just like with kids. I have never heard that. I thought going from one to two dogs was not bad, but kids? Dang, those little people are a lot of work. |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Sept 12, 2015 18:41:40 GMT
Most reputable rescue organizations will of course reunite a dog with their family, but once they know there is a problem, including neglect most will not give the dog back to the owners and will even go to court if they have to. If there is a no kill shelter in your area maybe you can surrender Taco to them. Good luck and bless you for caring!
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Post by miominmio on Sept 12, 2015 19:12:41 GMT
The fact that he runs away from home, doesn't necessarily mean his owners aren't good pet owners. We had a male dog once, who was Houdini reincarnated. He was loved and well cared for and a happy dog, he just was an escape artist extraordinaire.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 12, 2015 19:49:00 GMT
Keep Taco around for a while and see how it goes. Except that he belongs to someone else. Maybe that family thought they had secured the escape route and he made another one. Maybe he finds a way out when they open the door. And maybe they really are crappy owners. The point is, she doesn't know one way or another what kin of owners they are and she can't just keep a dog that isn't hers, especially when she knows who the owners are. I have two indoor cats and live in a funky old cottage. It is funky in that some of the repairs and adjustments to this 80 plus year old house are just plain odd. One of them is how the plumbing is accessed in the original bathroom. An access panel was cut into the shared wall of the bathroom and a closet. The open spot was then covered over with a piece of board and screwed in the plaster wall. It is forever falling down and no matter how much I fix it, the screws are popping out. The door to that closet is swollen, and it doesn't shut well. And, neither does the door to that bedroom. The house is up on a foundation, so the plumbing access is open to the crawl space under the house. I try to close all the doors and keep that board covering the access panel, but the ninja cat is very slender and wily. He will bump bump bump the doors until they open, wiggle his way through what ever I put in his way and wack at the access panel until their is a tiny sliver of an opening that he can get through. Then he wiggles his way through the access until he gets under the house and OFF he goes. Fortunately it isn't far that he goes, but I regularly find him crying on the back porch, and I don't even know that he is gotten out again. I have finally just cleaned out the closet and blocked it with a dresser. (And anyone who lives in an old cottage style house knows that closets are tiny little things and few and far between and to give one up completely should be proof enough that I love that damn cat.) Anyway, I say all this because some of us have escape artist ninja pets who will do anything to get free, even if when they get out it scares them half to death. We aren't bad pet parents, it is just that they are worse than toddlers when they are up to something. My cat just wants to get out and then come right back in again, but some like to roam around a bit. I would be destroyed if someone just 'kept' my ninja cat because he was out and about. If you were nice to him, he would come back to you because all he has known was nice-he is petted and fed and loved on and that is what he knows. It isn't because I am hateful to him, it is that he would think 'hey, they are nice to me so I will go there.' Let the shelter people handle it. Don't just assume that the pet parents are hateful. |
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Post by caro on Sept 12, 2015 19:54:55 GMT
Maybe he is an escape artist. Contact the owners one more time. I would be heartsick if my little dog was kept by someone when she would escape.
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Post by tanya2 on Sept 12, 2015 20:03:54 GMT
sorry i agree with anxiousmom on this one. he might not be neglected, just an escape artist. and bottom line is, he has a family that is not yours
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Post by grammanisi on Sept 12, 2015 21:09:21 GMT
I am torn about the fact that he is thin, had fleas, was filthy and smelled terrible from cigarette smoke. And about the fact that he seems to feel so at home here, considering the fact that it is about 6 blocks from where he lives(according to the lady from the rescue, I have never been there).. I feel bad that maybe he isn't happy at his home.
I have no plans at all to keep him, I just hope that going back to his home is the right thing for him.
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Post by pelirroja on Sept 13, 2015 9:44:14 GMT
Turn him in to the rescue: they can determine whether or not he's in a bad situation or an escape artist. If you turn him in to a shelter, it might not be no-kill. The rescue (probably) has a written agreement about taking him back if they feel he's not getting adequate care and treatment. And the rescue (probably) has legal standing to take action against his owners if this is a case of animal neglect.
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I don't know what to do now. Original post from last week
We just don't have the heart to send him somewhere else, when it is so obvious that he wants to live with us. Our dogs are perfectly fine with him, now. 
Time to get off the internet!
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