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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2015 0:30:12 GMT
I keep hearing how "stressed out" I am. There are a lot of people who work very stressful jobs and they aren't falling apart.
There are teacher Peas in here (I would say tons of them) and they deal with 20-30 or more kids a day (elementary) and they have what I would call stressful jobs. You have to keep the kids in their seats, get them to listen to you, do their lessons and do their homework. It's a stressful job.
There are at least 3 doctors in RefuPeas and somehow they deal with death all the time and they have even MORE stressful jobs because they work long hours, deal with sick people all the time and I can't imagine their jobs are stress-free. Plus they survived med school. That in and of itself is intensive stress.
There are Peas who have lost family members and they are holding their lives together. There are a few who come to mind recently and they are coping. They haven't fallen apart and had a break down.
There are Peas who have children who have issues in their lives that are extremely worrisome and stressful yet they aren't falling apart either.
I am a nut case. I am constantly stressed I am in tears all the time now. Today BFF told me stress can kill you. I don't consider myself uneducated or have a good explanation why I am so stressed. It just feels like I am. It's like my head is going to explode or implode some days.
How do other people survive stressful situations? I take medication and plenty of it. I sleep when I can. I exercise and get fresh air. I work a very simple and easy job. I ignore the stupidity at work and just go with it.
Why can't I deal with the stress in my life yet 99% of the rest of the world can? There are men and women fighting in Afghanistan in a war and their jobs are stressful. You don't see them crying at the drop of a hat feeling like their are losing their minds...
If you are going to bash me, do it behind my back ok. I just want to hear how people cope with stress. Thank you.
------ I will start journaling. I don't know how to really without causing myself more grief, but I will try.
I feel really badly. I had to go over to BIL and SIL's house and they just got a new puppy (she is about 6 months old or so) and she is in a biting and attacking mode (she was jumping all over me and on and off the couch). She bit my hand and then was biting my arm but I wore a jean jacket luckily. I got her by the collar on the floor and told her no sternly. I feel badly about doing that, but she had already bitten me about 4x. (Just one bite broke the skin and it's not serious so I am not worried). I hate disciplining other people's animals. Then I just got the heck out of there. She is just a puppy, but I can't deal with being jumped all over.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2015 0:31:26 GMT
The teacher peas, doctor peas, lawyer peas, scientist peas...I am trying to be as inclusive as I can...
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Post by *sprout* on Sept 22, 2015 0:45:40 GMT
(((hugs)))
For me, I need to have an outlet for my stress. Sometimes, it's a long walk with a good friend. Sometimes, it's a run by myself. Sometimes, it's getting lost in a book.
I hope you find something that works for you. Ü
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Post by bluepoprocks on Sept 22, 2015 0:46:40 GMT
Just because people aren't on here telling everyone how stressed they are doesn't mean they aren't just as stressed and falling apart as you feel you are.
I did a quiz on my health management workshop the last two weeks and both times they told me I'm highly stressed. Everyone has some amount of stress so don't feel like you are alone in it. The workshop suggested ways to relieve stress. Some suggestions are exercise, deep breathing, don't negative talk about your self even in your own head, eating healthy, getting enough sleep, and talking to a therapist.
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Post by Linda on Sept 22, 2015 0:49:39 GMT
((((Hugs)))) and prayers
mental illness makes it harder for people to handle even ordinary day to day life never mind any stress at all. You're struggling with your illness and that's why you can't deal with the stress in your life. Don't compare yourself to others - you are you and you can handle what YOU can handle.
as for stress relief - exercise, fresh air, eating right work best for me - although when I'm struggling I tend to reach for chocolate and hibernation instead.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Sept 22, 2015 0:58:25 GMT
I try to observe the stressful situations that happen instead of involve myself in them. So that way I don't see them happening to me, but happening for me for a bigger reason that will turn out rewarding or something that it happening to someone else. Like I used to identify myself as the person being yelled at when others would yell at me. But now I just observe the person yelling and identify with the idea that what they are actually yelling at is their reaction. That they are expressing their anger through the outlet of someone to listen to them. And when the environment gets too overwhelming for me, I just say that this isn't my reality and it changes. Works like a charm for me
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 22, 2015 1:04:02 GMT
Teacher Pea…I made sure that I had a good amount of downtime and didn't say yes to the things I had control over. I didn't let others guilt me. I laugh A LOT; it is mostly at stupid stuff. I went through the drive thru if we had late practices and ordered somewhat health stuff. I didn't look for drama. My husband does a lot of things around the house. I taught my kids to be pretty self sufficient at a young age (laundry by 7). I have dogs.
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Post by justkat on Sept 22, 2015 1:24:48 GMT
I'll keep this brief because I'm responding on my phone....
I'm a doctor pea who has stage 3 metastatic cancer. Today I found out I've been exposed to TB. My step son is in Afghanistan and we haven't heard from him in a couple weeks. You want to talk about stress??
Here's the thing;just because you only see me bend doesn't mean I never break. Everyone has their moments. You have to find what works for YOU and stop comparing yourself to everyone else.
We're all made differently so what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Do your own thing, don't worry about others and know if you didn't handle things well today that tomorrow is a new opportunity. Kat
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2015 1:35:09 GMT
Just because people aren't on here telling everyone how stressed they are doesn't mean they aren't just as stressed and falling apart as you feel you are. I did a quiz on my health management workshop the last two weeks and both times they told me I'm highly stressed. Everyone has some amount of stress so don't feel like you are alone in it. The workshop suggested ways to relieve stress. Some suggestions are exercise, deep breathing, don't negative talk about your self even in your own head, eating healthy, getting enough sleep, and talking to a therapist. But even then they are able to deal with it because they don't need to talk about it. They just "handle" it. I see a therapist and he just says it's because of the kind of "stress you are under". There is a Pea in a similar situation as I am although she is further along 'the loss of a parent road' in life. She is holding it together. She is able to work full time, maintain a house, live normally, etc and she isn't a basket case. I just don't get it. Or I haven't come to terms with it.
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Post by lesley on Sept 22, 2015 1:37:33 GMT
I think sometimes it is easier to handle stress than other times. Over the last five years, the stress in my life has been pretty much constant. It ebbs and flows to a degree, but there have been maybe only a couple of weeks here and there where I have felt relaxed, content and able to imagine a better future. (Usually when I'm on holiday in Florida, which is not something I can afford very often.) Sometimes all I want to do is run away, and leave it all behind. Other times I simply have to laugh at how ridiculous my life is. If it were a sitcom, people would dismiss it as being unrealistic. But you really can't live on high alert 24/7. You have to find a way to switch off. My DD is a huge concern, and her illnesses, diagnoses and behaviours exhaust me almost on a daily basis. And yet, I can look back four years, three years, and know that things are generally better now. Saying that, we could have another crisis next week that could send everything spiralling downwards again. Such is the nature of BPD.
DS17 and I have a non-suicide pact - he has promised not to kill himself as long as I don't either. We joke about this, but there is also a serious side to it. And although I'm the mum, and work hard to stay positive for him and with him, he is also the only person who really gets how much pain I am in. He comforts me, and vice versa. He has had to grow up fast and is mature for his age, but I am very strict with myself on not using him as my crutch, and letting him be a 17-year-old boy. But he does give me more pleasure than anyone else in my life. So what do I do to help with the stress? Hmm. Playing with the dog is the number one activity for lifting both myself and DS. Seeing his happy face when he is getting a walk, hunting for biscuits, or refusing to give up a toy always de-stresses me. I like to try to always have something to look forward to. It might just be a lunch date with one of my remaining friends (many of them have drifted away over the last few years - I think they're scared my life will rub off on them!) Or next month, DS and I have tickets to go and see our favourite comedian on stage. Sometimes I will buy myself a box of my favourite chocolates - Raffaello, if you're interested! I will put on an old film, grab my colouring book and pens, and try to switch off for a couple of hours. I try to stay away from alcohol, as I really can't handle it. I like to put on my favourite music, very very loudly, and sing at the top of my voice. I'm not sure how happy that makes my upstairs neighbour, but she hasn't complained so far! I'll dance to all my favourite 70s disco classics until I get a stitch in my side and can barely catch my breath. I probably look like a nutcase, but I usually only do this when I'm alone in the house! I also like doing zentangles. I'm not very good at them, but again, they help me sit down, focus, and switch off a bit. And sometimes looking at big expensive houses on Zillow is relaxing. I know I will never have a big expensive house, but that's okay. I have tried meditation, mindfulness, and yoga. None of these work for me, I can't switch my brain off. Jigsaw puzzles really help, and I do both 'real' ones and ones on my iPad. What does help me relax and get to sleep at night is doing alphabet lists in my head. So I might try to come up with colours in alphabetical order, or fruit and veg, or lists like Scottish coastal towns (Ayr, Buckie, Cullen, Dunbar, etc). It helps me to focus on unimportant things when I'm trying to get to sleep, rather than rehashing all the crap of the day. I'm usually asleep by the time I get to N or P. Most of all Elannah, I try to find things that make me laugh. Great big belly laughs that make tears run down my face are the best stress relievers ever. Those don't happen that often, but sometimes even the memories of events that have caused me to laugh like that help my mood. So sometimes I prowl my way around Pinterest looking for things that make me chuckle. And I come on here too for a bit of light relief. Mind you, I'm not sure that this place is particularly helpful at de-stressing you! 
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2015 1:40:20 GMT
I'll keep this brief because I'm responding on my phone.... I'm a doctor pea who has stage 3 metastatic cancer. Today I found out I've been exposed to TB. My step son is in Afghanistan and we haven't heard from him in a couple weeks. You want to talk about stress?? Here's the thing;just because you only see me bend doesn't mean I never break. Everyone has their moments. You have to find what works for YOU and stop comparing yourself to everyone else. We're all made differently so what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Do your own thing, don't worry about others and know if you didn't handle things well today that tomorrow is a new opportunity. Kat justkat just proved my point. Her stress level has to be skyrocket level and she is somehow coping. I don't know how to get to the "what works for me" as so far *nothing* is apparently. Anyway this thread will end. Today was just a rough day and tomorrow we start again. <3 to everyone!
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Post by leeny on Sept 22, 2015 1:43:09 GMT
Just heard about this on the radio. It seems we say we are stressed out or have no time but the truth is that many are so plugged in that have access to everything and everyone 24/7. Even if you aren't doing something you are probably thinking about it.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Sept 22, 2015 1:43:38 GMT
But even then they are able to deal with it because they don't need to talk about it. They just "handle" it. I see a therapist and he just says it's because of the kind of "stress you are under". There is a Pea in a similar situation as I am although she is further along 'the loss of a parent road' in life. She is holding it together. She is able to work full time, maintain a house, live normally, etc and she isn't a basket case. I just don't get it. Or I haven't come to terms with it.
Like someone else said you have other health problems that make dealing with stress harder. Try some of the things people suggested maybe it will help reduce your stress to a more manageable level. Your illness all by itself causes you a great deal of stress I'm guessing. Don't be so hard on yourself. I saw one of your recent posts where you were exercising. Keep up with that. Even just relaxing and watching a funny movie can help. It won't take away what's causing the stress but it will take your mind off your stressors and make you feel better for a while anyhow.
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Post by marimoose on Sept 22, 2015 1:45:17 GMT
I'll keep this brief because I'm responding on my phone.... I'm a doctor pea who has stage 3 metastatic cancer. Today I found out I've been exposed to TB. My step son is in Afghanistan and we haven't heard from him in a couple weeks. You want to talk about stress?? Here's the thing;just because you only see me bend doesn't mean I never break. Everyone has their moments. You have to find what works for YOU and stop comparing yourself to everyone else. We're all made differently so what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Do your own thing, don't worry about others and know if you didn't handle things well today that tomorrow is a new opportunity. Kat I felt so bad reading all those stressful things in your life and I certainly do appreciate the raw honesty of your post. Your advice is spot on and I couldn't have said it better. I hope that some of your personal stress is relieved soon. Elannah - much like the others, we all have stress and we all handle it differently, some days better, some days worse. I have days my head feels just like how you described your head, I swear it is going to implode and I just need to beat a hasty exit out of the house for a good long mind clearing walk. I know I am overdue when the dog starts giving me that look and she knows I need to get out. I leave all my stress in the house and breathe in all the fresh air. Any form of exercise brings out the good.
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Post by scrapaddie on Sept 22, 2015 1:53:58 GMT
Part of it is personality. I am a middle child who was totally lost among the problems of an older sister (a bit rebellious) and a younger sister (brain- damaged and needing a lot of care).... I had to learn to go with the flow at a young age.
I have had my own life problems.... teaching high school, divorce after a long marriage, death of 5 members of my immediate family (not all at once) a daughter who was wonderful but suffered from depression... but I deal. Part of what helps me deal is personality, my faith, my hobbies.... it is all so personal. My older sister... was totally different. everything stressed her, including things that never happened, but she thought could or would.
don't beat yourself up... your suffering is real, even if someone else might not react the same way... also remember that some people share a lot more of themselves here. others of us are more closed.... you don't know everyone's story.
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Post by lesley on Sept 22, 2015 1:55:35 GMT
And remember, it's not always the size of the burden you carry that causes stress, it's how long you've been carrying it for. Give yourself a break Delta Dawn, be kind to yourself. Hugs.
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Post by mom on Sept 22, 2015 2:01:02 GMT
I think you have it in your head that the 'grass is greener'. Just because someone looks like they have it together doesn't mean they do. Or maybe they are on medicine to help them deal. Whatever the case, you are only seeing what people want you to see.
You are basing your perception of people based on what you read here. Hell, you have no clue really how they are dealing with things.
I honestly believe you need to find a doctor that can help you with medicine to help you deal with life. Yes you have a therapist but sometimes more help is needed.
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Post by trollie on Sept 22, 2015 2:08:23 GMT
Just because people aren't on here telling everyone how stressed they are doesn't mean they aren't just as stressed and falling apart as you feel you are. I did a quiz on my health management workshop the last two weeks and both times they told me I'm highly stressed. Everyone has some amount of stress so don't feel like you are alone in it. The workshop suggested ways to relieve stress. Some suggestions are exercise, deep breathing, don't negative talk about your self even in your own head, eating healthy, getting enough sleep, and talking to a therapist. THIS. You cannot tell how stressed someone is just by looking at them. Some people put on a good front. Count your blessings, get your sleep and eat well. Don't compare your life to others. We can all tolerate different things.
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Post by trollie on Sept 22, 2015 2:08:48 GMT
And say no when you cannot or do not want to do something. No. Just say no.
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Post by trollie on Sept 22, 2015 2:11:53 GMT
I think you have it in your head that the 'grass is greener'. Just because someone looks like they have it together doesn't mean they do. Or maybe they are on medicine to help them deal. Whatever the case, you are only seeing what people want you to see. Yep. Don't lose a diamond chasing glitter.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Sept 22, 2015 4:36:53 GMT
I'm a closet fall aparter. Even those who live with me rarely see me fall apart. My stress is high. Sent me to urgent care with chest pain a few months ago. I didn't tell a soul till someone saw me taking meds. For me, online communities offer an easy way to interact without disclosing my panic and stress. I have posted here several times while having panic attacks and it helps distract me. But I rarely will admit to having one in the moment. We all cope differently. We all hide it differently or in many cases don't hide it at all. You have to find what works for you and try not to compare your reactions to others.
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Post by mlynn on Sept 22, 2015 5:55:42 GMT
Oh, great big hugs, sweetie. I am sorry you are having such a hard time.
I, too, have a lot of stress. I do not want to go into the details. This is not about me, and I simply cannot afford to open that Pandora's box right now. People are always telling me they don't know how I do it... how do I carry on..., etc. You know how? God doesn't give me a choice. Plain and simple. People do not see how I am a mess inside. They just see the façade on the outside. They do not realize that if they simply touched my arm I would crumble before their eyes. Recently a friend set to purchase me MS Office 2010, but I would have to download it and register it practically instantly. I called him the next morning and told him that I was going to have to ask him to put it on hold. Even though I was super psyched about getting it, I was on the brink of a breakdown and I could not handle it that day. I doubt dh even realized I was on the edge.
sometimes we just persevere because we have to. Plain and simple. Your stress and your pain are real. You have your own cross to bear and it is as difficult as the crosses of others. Do not belittle yourself because sometimes it is hard...even harder than you think it should be. You have gotten to where you are with baby steps, and each one has built your muscles for the next. If one of us was dropped in where you are now, we would probably crumble. Just as you feel you would crumble if dropped in where the teachers/doctors/scientists/etc are.
Chin up, girl. You have got this. (Even if you do not want to.)
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Post by gar on Sept 22, 2015 8:16:26 GMT
The 'evidence' that you see on here about how people are coping is just a nano-second's glimpse into someone's life. It may bear little or no resemblance to their actual life or their stress levels and whether they feel they're coping or not. This message board is not necessarily a good indicator of whether someone is coping or is on the verge of a nervous breakdown!
Someone could see you out walking or at the gym and say that you look as though you're coping - but you don't feel that's true, so the same can happen in reverse.
Some people can live unhealthy lives and not get Diabetes/heart disease, some people can smoke and not get lung cancer, others can live very healthy lives and still get illnesses...........some people can handle stress more easily and others struggle, we're all different but the only thing you should spend time thinking about is how YOU are going to help YOURSELF.
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Post by houston249 on Sept 22, 2015 14:30:54 GMT
The peas you listed "The teacher peas, doctor peas, lawyer peas, scientist peas...I am trying to be as inclusive as I can..." all of them, ALL of them have the option of leaving their work at work. If I recall right you live with your work.
Most of your stress also comes from non-income based stress. (Assuming you are working at "home" with no compensation) It makes a huge difference when your a doctor on call that earns 100,000.00 a year vs taking care of a parent with no income that goes with the work. That income based stress is different because of the "payoff" or long term benifits it brings with it.
The doctor can hire a babysitter more often, can take vacations that include paying someone 50 dollars a day to board the family pet. A teacher looks forward to the summer "break" or the retirement package. There is a mental payoff for them. People can deal with a lot more stress if they know they are getting compensated for it.
You have more stress because you have less reward/compensation. Can you imagine how stressful a doctors or teachers life would become if they were told you are required to do this job and will recieve no income and/or retirement package? Can you imagine their reaction if they protested and told the work is the reward or you should be greatful we let you do this or all they will get at the end of their career is a thank you and they had to do it no matter what?
How do you survive it? Make long term plans. What happens after the parent passes? Do you get the insurance money? Is their car or the home already in your name? I had to walk away from my parents house and car because of the way they organized their estate. (disclaimer-on the advice of the lawyer and accountant) and do plan regular breaks for yourself along the way, even if it is one hour a week at starbucks drinking a free glass of water and using their wifi.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 15:10:23 GMT
I'll keep this brief because I'm responding on my phone.... I'm a doctor pea who has stage 3 metastatic cancer. Today I found out I've been exposed to TB. My step son is in Afghanistan and we haven't heard from him in a couple weeks. You want to talk about stress?? Here's the thing;just because you only see me bend doesn't mean I never break. Everyone has their moments. You have to find what works for YOU and stop comparing yourself to everyone else. We're all made differently so what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Do your own thing, don't worry about others and know if you didn't handle things well today that tomorrow is a new opportunity. Kat My thoughts are with you, justkat. That's a lot to carry. Some people manage stress better than others. I'm not a good stress manager, so my techniques are: anti-anxiety meds; meditation and exercise; leaving lots of room in my schedule to spend alone, either reading or doing art, to recharge my energy; being with good friends who like to laugh and enjoy life.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 22, 2015 15:26:01 GMT
Please, don't compare how you handle stress to the way it looks like others handle it.
I have posted about DH's cancer many times. I have a lot of anger no one sees. This is the first time I have posted I AM ANGRY! So, no one knows or sees it. We have had what should have been our best years stolen from us by cancer.
My point is, everone says "oh, you are so strong". No, I just put one foit in front of the other every day.
When I am tired I don't cope well. Try to eat well, get enough sleep, and do things that make you hsppy.
Hugs. OP
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Post by nicole2112 on Sept 22, 2015 15:47:03 GMT
Downtime and time away from others is what works for me. I also read a whole lot. Just taking the break is how I keep on the straight and narrow. I like the advice of being kind to yourself. That's the best thing you can do. 
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Post by foolana on Sept 22, 2015 16:43:39 GMT
Distraction. Find something you enjoy doing and do it. It'll help.
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Post by Madi & Me on Sept 22, 2015 17:02:05 GMT
Elannah, I don't have much to offer in the way of advice for stress management because lately, I feel like I'm falling apart myself. I've never been one to handle stress well but lately I've been forced to get creative with my techniques and it's helping. But, I can offer hugs and positive thoughts. Remember, everyone handles stress differently. Try not to compare yourself to others as what works for some may not work for you and that's entirely okay. It'll likely take some experimenting around to find something that helps.
Some ideas...
Start a journal for your thoughts Make lists -- clear your mind of excess and clutter Prioritize whenever possible (separate essentials from non-essentials) Take an hour-long "time out" for yourself each day and honor it Volunteer your time helping others if you are able (I find this to be nurturing to my soul) Look into relaxation techniques and/or guided imagery (imagine writing your stressful thoughts in the sand and picture the ocean washing them away) Find something that inspires you or set a goal and use it as a focal point during times of high stress
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 22, 2015 17:15:55 GMT
I'll keep this brief because I'm responding on my phone.... I'm a doctor pea who has stage 3 metastatic cancer. Today I found out I've been exposed to TB. My step son is in Afghanistan and we haven't heard from him in a couple weeks. You want to talk about stress?? Here's the thing ;just because you only see me bend doesn't mean I never break. Everyone has their moments. You have to find what works for YOU and stop comparing yourself to everyone else. We're all made differently so what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Do your own thing, don't worry about others and know if you didn't handle things well today that tomorrow is a new opportunity. Kat justkat just proved my point. Her stress level has to be skyrocket level and she is somehow coping. I don't know how to get to the "what works for me" as so far *nothing* is apparently. Anyway this thread will end. Today was just a rough day and tomorrow we start again. <3 to everyone! ^^^ but you're wrong, Elannah-- she DIDN'T say she handles it all with no issues!! Look at what I bolded in her post-- she said just because you don't see her falling apart here, on this site, doesn't mean that she never does at all. She very well might, just somewhere we don't see it! She may be seeing a therapist 3 times a week, or doing any number of other things we have no idea about! (not picking on you, justkat, just trying to prove a point...) NO one ever puts everything about their life out there on the internet, just pieces. So reading what people say here, or other places, or seeing parts of people's lives as you interact with them just does not give you the fill picture of what they might be going through, or how they are / are not handling it in the privacy of their lives. you CAN'T go through your life comparing your life experiences to other people's (well, you can, but it just isn't productive in the long run- there is nothing for you to gain from it). Your experiences are YOURS, as someone else said, and what's stressful for you might not be for someone else, or your level of stress might very well put someone else in the hospital. There's no BENEFIT to you in making these sorts of comparisons. (believe me, I'm speaking from experience.) You can only do you and your experiences, the best that you can, and do things that you know will reduce your own stress levels. (trying not to compare yourself to other people would be a good start as a stress reducer, lol!)
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