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Post by deshacrafts on Sept 23, 2015 12:28:02 GMT
I've heard this a bunch of times lately, usually related to weather. "Cooler/hotter today in the north east even up in to New England." When did we start considering New England not part of the north east (seems like when they are referencing the north east it ends in New York). Just something that has been bugging me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:33:44 GMT
It isn't that New England isn't in the northeast, it is the fact New England is a region with its own identifier [New England] that does not include other states that are also in the north east but don't have another more specific regional identifier.
My "huh?" is why the midwest is so far to the east it isn't west or middle of the nation geographically.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 12:41:02 GMT
They must be talking about Connecticut, NY, NJ, PA. Everything north of them is New England. Maybe they should say Mid-Atlantic?
ETA: Oops, Connecticut is part of New England.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 23, 2015 12:42:22 GMT
That is weird, I would think you might say New England when you are only referring to that part of the Northeast, but not the way you described.
My pet peeve is when Michigan is referred to as being in the Midwest. It is not. It is part of the Great Lakes Region along with Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. The Midwest is the Dakotas, Nebraska, etc in my mind.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Sept 23, 2015 12:48:07 GMT
That is weird. Did you just see the strange look on my face while reading that? lol.
The Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: the New England states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and the Mid-Atlantic states of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.
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Post by deshacrafts on Sept 23, 2015 13:05:18 GMT
I always thought that the north east was New England. I would maybe include New York in that. But not New Jersey or PA. I just thought it was weird how they talked about the weather in the north east and also in to New England.
Just one of those "huh" things I guess.
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Post by gar on Sept 23, 2015 15:52:10 GMT
My "huh?" is why the midwest is so far to the east it isn't west or middle of the nation geographically. So the midwest is actually......north east?  That explains a lot!!  |
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Post by peabay on Sept 23, 2015 16:17:46 GMT
You're right - it's not correct. I live in New England (CT) AND in the northeast.
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 23, 2015 16:18:28 GMT
That is weird. Did you just see the strange look on my face while reading that? lol. The Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: the New England states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and the Mid-Atlantic states of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.I live in northern Virginia and I thought we were part of the mid-Atlantic states? How confusing? |
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Post by valleyview on Sept 23, 2015 16:20:14 GMT
The Midwest is generally what was the original Northwest Territory established in 1787. The states are Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and eastern Minnesota. The country grew, and they became Midwest.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 23, 2015 16:43:12 GMT
That is weird, I would think you might say New England when you are only referring to that part of the Northeast, but not the way you described. My pet peeve is when Michigan is referred to as being in the Midwest. It is not. It is part of the Great Lakes Region along with Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. The Midwest is the Dakotas, Nebraska, etc in my mind. right! If you take the Great Lakes out of the midwest it makes sense. From the Dakotas to Kansas is at least in the middle... though not really west. What about Colorado? Most of the state is flat and a lot more like Kansas then like the other "mountain states" |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 23, 2015 16:45:42 GMT
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Post by ginacivey on Sept 23, 2015 16:50:56 GMT
so where is missouri?
some say the south...some say midwest
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Post by LeaP on Sept 23, 2015 16:58:09 GMT
Not to add to the confusion, what about the expression "Down East" that refers to the northern part of Maine's coast?
Insofar as Missouri, my husband was born and raised in St. Louis. He considers himself midwestern.
ETA: Growing up in NYC, I always found the mid-Atlantic designation for states to be confusing, West Virginia is landlocked!
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Post by Sue on Sept 23, 2015 17:00:30 GMT
I'm from the Pacific Northwest which includes Washington and Oregon always. And depending on who you talk to all or part of Idaho. And a few will even include Wyoming and Montana. So my question is... what about California? Is CA the Pacific Southwest? (Not a term I've ever heard used.) It's not usually included as part of the SW is it? Is California ever assigned to a region?
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Post by finsup on Sept 23, 2015 17:11:15 GMT
Not to add to the confusion, what about the expression "Down East" that refers to the northern part of Maine's coast? Downeast is a maritime term. When sailing to Maine the prevailing winds came from the southwest, pushing schooners “downwind” in an easterly direction. As for the OP, I kind of interpret "in the northeast even up in to New England" to mean "even the New England/most northern part of the northeast." |
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Post by anonrefugee on Sept 23, 2015 17:16:31 GMT
That is weird. Did you just see the strange look on my face while reading that? lol. The Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: the New England states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and the Mid-Atlantic states of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.I live in northern Virginia and I thought we were part of the mid-Atlantic states? How confusing? LOL along with Charm City, Baltimore being southern. Even when I understand the origins some connotations are confusing! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:38:43 GMT
That is weird. Did you just see the strange look on my face while reading that? lol. The Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: the New England states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and the Mid-Atlantic states of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.Maryland isn't considered Mid-Atlantic?? |
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Post by Tamhugh on Sept 23, 2015 18:29:35 GMT
That is weird. Did you just see the strange look on my face while reading that? lol. The Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: the New England states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and the Mid-Atlantic states of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.Maryland isn't considered Mid-Atlantic?? It is, but it isn't considered part of the Northeast. It is south of the Mason-Dixon line, so that may be the reason. |
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Post by freebird on Sept 23, 2015 19:41:56 GMT
so where is missouri? some say the south...some say midwest gina OMFG.. you just hit my hot button. lol Dammit GINA! I'm about 2 hours from the geographical center of the states, I'm IN THE MIDWEST. I'm not in the south, please do not talk about the civil war, it's been like 150 damn years. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Sept 23, 2015 20:35:57 GMT
Well in Little League World Series Kentucky is part of the Great Lakes Region - we are at least 5-6 hours away from a Great Lake. People here claim the South but we were a border state and never succeeded.
Heck we aren't even a state, we are a commonwealth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 20:39:02 GMT
My "huh?" is why the midwest is so far to the east it isn't west or middle of the nation geographically. So the midwest is actually......north east? That explains a lot!! Well, the "midwest" is north and east of my location... so yeah, it confuses me. |
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Post by LeaP on Sept 23, 2015 20:45:53 GMT
I'm from the Pacific Northwest which includes Washington and Oregon always. And depending on who you talk to all or part of Idaho. And a few will even include Wyoming and Montana. So my question is... what about California? Is CA the Pacific Southwest? (Not a term I've ever heard used.) It's not usually included as part of the SW is it? Is California ever assigned to a region? I think that California is considered part of the West Coast which technically includes Washington and Oregon, though many would prefer to think of it as an island unto itself...a jumbo Catalina! People back east from whence I came (NYC) refer to it as the West Coast. |
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Post by froggyscraps on Sept 24, 2015 8:11:10 GMT
I don't know, but I'm always confused as to how Ohio is considered part of the East Coast
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Post by ginacivey on Sept 24, 2015 17:35:14 GMT
and stop with the rebel flag
down here there are battle grounds...but it's just as likely your ancestors fought for the north!
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That explains a lot!! 
