|
|
Post by megs78 on Sept 24, 2015 22:42:40 GMT
We had an incident at a local rugby game - though nowhere near as severe - where a parent attacked a referee. He received a life ban from ALL rugby in the state (including the professional paid games) and was prosecuted via criminal assault charges. Same should happen here. Violence of this kind has no place in ANY sport at ANY level.
|
|
|
|
Post by gmcwife1 on Sept 24, 2015 22:59:32 GMT
His statement doesn't change the fact in my mind that he has no business as a football coach. The last thing we need is more people who think the right thing to do is lie to cover up others misbehavior - particularly for high school kids. A court of law should determine whether he's covering his ass for fear of criminal or civil charges - I'd still charge him. Exactly, he should not be teaching kids. We need people with integrity not someone that will teach them to lie and cover up  |
|
|
|
Post by mom on Sept 25, 2015 2:29:54 GMT
The kids should be charged with assault. No question in my mind.
The Coach? He needs fired. Not only because he may/may not have told the kids to do it. But because he lied.
And yes, I think he should have to go before the grand jury and let me decide if he lied or should be charged with something.
|
|
|
|
Post by annaintx on Sept 25, 2015 2:45:56 GMT
This is local to me, also. Here in Texas, the UIL (University Interscholastic League) governs all extra curriculars like band, sports. It's "taking so long" because the UIL is still interviewing people. I watched live streaming of the hearing today where they talked to the coaches of the opposing team (Marble Falls) and that coach said that none of his players said they heard any racial slurs from the referee. He looked at game footage, he said, and figured out which of his players would have been around that particular referee and asked them point blank if they heard anything. The players said no. The UIL committee also interviewed the lawyer for the referee, representatives of the referee association (whatever it's called), a private detective. I also heard the principal at John Jay speak as well as the head football coach. I gave up after a while because the audio was so terrible. I have personal ties to John Jay through my work. I have to say that the principal at Jay has turned that school around and it is a much better place than it used to be. As it stands now, the boys are in alternative school until mid January, and they will be allowed to return to any extra curricular activities, I believe. However, the UIL can change that decision that was made by the school district. Their final decision won't come until October according to a few articles that I read, as they are still gathering evidence. Here is an article about today's UIL hearings: Jay HSWhy the ref didn't testify at the UIL hearing |
|
flute4peace
Drama Llama
Posts: 6,757
Jul 3, 2014 14:38:35 GMT
|
Post by flute4peace on Sept 25, 2015 3:16:16 GMT
Absolutely unacceptable behavior by all involved. Ref, asst coach, players.
If the ref was making inappropriate comments, there are steps that can be taken to report/file complaints against him. I hesitate to put any blame on the ref because the only people that have said that he made racial remarks are those that attacked him. Have we heard anyone else say that this ref has made these types of comments to other players before? I think it's their way of trying to justify their actions that, to me, are in no way justifiable. I don't care what he said. If he said something that was out of line the complaint should have been made and protocol should have been followed. Without anyone else coming forward to say that they heard what he said I just don't know that I believe it. I didn't even think of that - now I'm embarrassed that I assumed it was true. Either way, he didn't deserve to be hit no matter what he said/didn't say. This whole situation is really sad. |
|
|
|
Post by nlwilkins on Sept 25, 2015 6:28:42 GMT
Don't forget this is Texas - football is taken very, very seriously here. If you look at the Texas news on Google, out of the first six stories at least four of them will be about football, many times more. ALSO remember, stupid is bigger in Texas, hence the magic ring kid being suspended, the clock kid being suspended and taken out in handcuffs, and the Jade15 paranoia. You never know next what will happen in Texas to consolidate their reputation for stupid.
(I live in Texas, have a Texas hubby, two Texan children and know that the majority of Texans are not THAT stupid, but we just get the crazies more often it seems.)
|
|
sweetpeasmom
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,592 
|
Post by sweetpeasmom on Sept 25, 2015 12:51:44 GMT
Sorry, but that is just wrong. You may not like the sport but don't lump all players/coaches/refs/fans in one category. I can tell you that probably 95% of my son's team are in the advanced classes at school, most made the A/B honor roll last year at school. Our head coach at the high school has emphasized the importance of community and giving back to the community. They believe in building these young boys into young men that have a love for their community, giving back, and a love for each other on and off the field. Any sport, taught properly, can instill values and lessons that will take them far in life, long after they've played their last down, pitch, or ump shot. As for these 2 players and coach, they should be charged. The players are old enough to know better. They may need to follow their coaches instructions for play on the field but not when the coach asks them to intentionally harm someone. Now the coach is saying he didn't do that? So he says his original statement was to protect the kids but when it didn't work the way he though it would, now he's throwing them under the bus? Wow. I don't know why but I just don't understand football. TOO ME it is violent and I only hear about the crap things they do. Maybe to balance out my opinion I should seek out all the good football players do. But this kind of thing makes me sad that these kids would do this. They should be punished. Right now the reason you are hearing about it is because this is the middle of football season. I'm sure during other sports seasons, you can find stories of the good and bad of it. Here's a good story. I just saw it this week on facebook - Awesome Football Story |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
May 19, 2024 10:06:56 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 13:41:30 GMT
Don't forget this is Texas - football is taken very, very seriously here. If you look at the Texas news on Google, out of the first six stories at least four of them will be about football, many times more. ALSO remember, stupid is bigger in Texas, hence the magic ring kid being suspended, the clock kid being suspended and taken out in handcuffs, and the Jade15 paranoia. You never know next what will happen in Texas to consolidate their reputation for stupid. (I live in Texas, have a Texas hubby, two Texan children and know that the majority of Texans are not THAT stupid, but we just get the crazies more often it seems.) "but we just get the crazies more often it seems." As evidenced by this post.  |
|
|
|
Post by nicole2112 on Sept 25, 2015 13:54:57 GMT
Thank you, Peal for posting that story! Breed's statement reiterates the fact that he shouldn't be in any type of leadership position around impressionable minors at all. |
|
|
|
Post by nicole2112 on Sept 25, 2015 13:58:30 GMT
I tend to believe that the ref probably did not say what he is accused of. If he had, or even had a history of doing so, I feel certain it would have come out by now with the amount of attention this is getting.  |
|
|
|
Post by anxiousmom on Sept 25, 2015 14:12:41 GMT
Don't forget this is Texas - football is taken very, very seriously here. If you look at the Texas news on Google, out of the first six stories at least four of them will be about football, many times more. ALSO remember, stupid is bigger in Texas, hence the magic ring kid being suspended, the clock kid being suspended and taken out in handcuffs, and the Jade15 paranoia. You never know next what will happen in Texas to consolidate their reputation for stupid. (I live in Texas, have a Texas hubby, two Texan children and know that the majority of Texans are not THAT stupid, but we just get the crazies more often it seems.) Wouldn't you say though, that football in the south in general is huge? I live in a state where college football rules the weekends. There are interstate rivalries that can literally turn the roads into parking lots. There are bad apples in every group of course, but I don't think blaming it on football or football culture is the only answer. I watched a Florida football game a couple of weeks ago where the coach just about lost his mind on a player who made a slashing movement across his neck after a touchdown. It was a hand waving, foot stomping, vein popping, screaming meemee fit of anger over a mean spirited show of poor sportsmanship. I think that is the norm rather than the exception. |
|
|
|
Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 25, 2015 15:57:57 GMT
People hear a lot of the negatives about football, but it's also one of the most diverse sports - and I do think that one of the best things about sports in generally is that it breaks down racial and economic barriers between kids. I grew up in a pretty diverse area - but there was still a tendency to group up by neighborhood/race/socioeconomic factors in general. I saw a huge shift growing up between middle school and high school. The biggest driver in shaking up those groups was sports - people bonded over football, soccer, track etc and it allowed a lot of people to realize that they had a whole lot more in common. While obviously any extra-curricular activity could fill this need - I personally have seen it more in sports than most other endeavors.
|
|
|
|
Post by originalvanillabean on Sept 25, 2015 15:59:55 GMT
I absolutely think it's assault. I don't know the laws around whether the coach could also be legally culpable (seems like he should be) but the players are old enough to know something like that is wrong, so they aren't absolved of personal responsibility. Yes, you follow your coach's play calls - attacking a ref like that is not a play and they should have refused and told the head coach. By the time you are a senior in high school, you darn well better know right from wrong. Heck, they should have known that years earlier. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that they were paraded on GMA and other news media, whining that the coach told them to do it and accusing the ref of racial slurs. They should have had enough sense to not do something illegal even if the assistant coach said to, not to mention that blindsiding a referee is in no way called for no matter what he said/did. There are appropriate channels to deal with that. I hope the judge throws the book at them and that former asst. coach. this - 100% |
|
|
|
Post by Freefallfast on Sept 26, 2015 0:15:59 GMT
I do love those touching stories about kids helping kida. Thanks for sharing.
|
|
