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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 23:49:03 GMT
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It seems the Trumpster and Carson don't like the current format for the next debate and if the network doesn't do it their way they won't play ball. I understand that some of the other candidates want changes as well but, at least at this point, have not threaten to boycott the debate if they don't get their way. I think the network should stay firm in their format and if Trump and Carson follow through with their threat it would be a big plus for the remaining candidates and viewers because they would have a real debate and not that three ring circus that follows Trump. I don't think Carson doesn't even want to be there because it will interfere with him pushing his new book. I see he "suspended" his campaign for I think 2 weeks so he could push his book.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 2:15:49 GMT
It would be a far better debate without Trump so I hope is does boycott.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 16, 2015 2:48:49 GMT
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It seems the Trumpster and Carson don't like the current format for the next debate and if the network doesn't do it their way they won't play ball. I understand that some of the other candidates want changes as well but, at least at this point, have not threaten to boycott the debate if they don't get their way. I think the network should stay firm in their format and if Trump and Carson follow through with their threat it would be a big plus for the remaining candidates and viewers because they would have a real debate and not that three ring circus that follows Trump. I don't think Carson doesn't even want to be there because it will interfere with him pushing his new book. I see he "suspended" his campaign for I think 2 weeks so he could push his book. Carson is proving the theory that this is about getting higher speaking engagement fees than a true run for the Presidency. |
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Post by **Angie** on Oct 16, 2015 3:15:12 GMT
Trump won't boycott. Too much free publicity with him hitching and moaning about the big bad debate structure.
And personally? The commercials might be more appealing than the debate itself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 4:38:56 GMT
Apparently Trump/Carson don't to be the only ones to boycott the debate if their demands aren't met. They want the RNC to unsanction the debate if CNBC doesn't meet make the changes which would mean none of the candidates would show up for the debate.
Which means Trump will get his way which is really too bad.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Oct 16, 2015 10:21:05 GMT
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It seems the Trumpster and Carson don't like the current format for the next debate and if the network doesn't do it their way they won't play ball. I understand that some of the other candidates want changes as well but, at least at this point, have not threaten to boycott the debate if they don't get their way. I think the network should stay firm in their format and if Trump and Carson follow through with their threat it would be a big plus for the remaining candidates and viewers because they would have a real debate and not that three ring circus that follows Trump. I don't think Carson doesn't even want to be there because it will interfere with him pushing his new book. I see he "suspended" his campaign for I think 2 weeks so he could push his book. The candidates requested two things. First, the debate be two hours versus a no time limit debate. Second, that they make opening and closing statements. These are exactly the same conditions afforded the democrats for their debate on Tuesday night. I was unhappy with the debate Fox moderated. Megyn Kelly turned the debate into a reality show with her insidious questions. in the CNN debate, Jake Tapper's questions were designed with intention to pit the candidates against each other and create a circus atmosphere. I think so far the networks have done a huge disservice to Republican voters who have an important primary decision to make and want to hear from our candidates. Ben Carson's new book is about the Constitution. His campaign manager said yesterday the campaign has not been suspended. I don't see the conflict. He has been effective so far in that he has raised $20.8 million to grow his largely grass roots campaign. Interesting that the Dem's want to put down the Republican debate before it has even occurred but have nothing substantive to discuss about their own candidates performance on Tuesday. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 16, 2015 10:45:56 GMT
For the record, this Democrat did try to participate in the discussion re: the debate.
One thing read about the debates is that the networks set the whole thing up, but the formats could have been driven by the party-which is what happened with the democrats. The party made demands, they were met, and thus the format difference. (This totally could be a lie though since I don't have supporting information. It is early after all.)
But if that is true, that DNC stepped in and fought for a specific format for the debate then I would say that Mr. Trump and Dr. Carson have that same right if their party isn't going to do it for them.
I don't think asking for opening and closing statements is any kind of special snowflake behavior, but I do think that boycotting if you don't get your way is a bit douchey.
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Post by suzastampin on Oct 16, 2015 11:00:42 GMT
I'll admit that I've only watched the first Republican debate as we don't get CNN. It's a big difference to give 5 candidates opening and closing statements compared to 15 candidates the same (I know some have dropped out but I haven't paid attention to how many). Anyway, say they give each candidate 5 minutes total, 2.5 minutes for each opening and closing, that's going to take 65 minutes of a two hour debate. That's not much time left to debate.
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Post by blondiec47 on Oct 16, 2015 11:37:48 GMT
Trump and Carson just want what the democrats had, nothing earth shattering. I am sick of the media letting the dems play nice while making sure to pit the repubs against one another. This is a very important election and I wish the media would treat it as such, the ENTIRE country will have to live with this choice for 4 important years
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Post by ahiller on Oct 16, 2015 11:41:09 GMT
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It seems the Trumpster and Carson don't like the current format for the next debate and if the network doesn't do it their way they won't play ball. I understand that some of the other candidates want changes as well but, at least at this point, have not threaten to boycott the debate if they don't get their way. I think the network should stay firm in their format and if Trump and Carson follow through with their threat it would be a big plus for the remaining candidates and viewers because they would have a real debate and not that three ring circus that follows Trump. I don't think Carson doesn't even want to be there because it will interfere with him pushing his new book. I see he "suspended" his campaign for I think 2 weeks so he could push his book. Interesting that the Dem's want to put down the Republican debate before it has even occurred but have nothing substantive to discuss about their own candidates performance on Tuesday. Are you really shocked that people don't want to discuss politics with you when you make comments like this? Really? I haven't seen anyone "put down the debate" on this thread. People don't like how two of the candidates are behaving and said so. Guess it's ok for you to talk about how much you dislike Hilary... |
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Post by whopea on Oct 16, 2015 12:30:08 GMT
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It seems the Trumpster and Carson don't like the current format for the next debate and if the network doesn't do it their way they won't play ball. I understand that some of the other candidates want changes as well but, at least at this point, have not threaten to boycott the debate if they don't get their way. I think the network should stay firm in their format and if Trump and Carson follow through with their threat it would be a big plus for the remaining candidates and viewers because they would have a real debate and not that three ring circus that follows Trump. I don't think Carson doesn't even want to be there because it will interfere with him pushing his new book. I see he "suspended" his campaign for I think 2 weeks so he could push his book. From what I've read, the CNBC debate was originally scheduled at two hours and the rules were set and agreed upon. CNBC sold all their advertising for the two hours and decided that if they added a third hour, their ad rates skyrocketed. They changed the rules. Trump cried foul. CNBC caved to Trump because two hours with him was better than three without. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 16, 2015 13:07:14 GMT
I don't think that there's anything wrong with the format changes they're proposing.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Oct 16, 2015 13:19:11 GMT
I think a timed debate is better because it can help keep the candidates on track. And longer than two hours - that's a long time for everybody involved (including the viewers at home). I understand the request for opening and closing statements, but to allow the candidates to actually have enough time to say something of substance, it would eat up a lot of the actual debate time.
I have no problem with the requests, but the threatening to boycott seems childish to me. As president you will constantly be faced with situations that you can't completely control or like which have much more significance than a debate. Are they always going to just take their ball and leave the playground?
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 16, 2015 15:09:36 GMT
I think a timed debate is better because it can help keep the candidates on track. And longer than two hours - that's a long time for everybody involved (including the viewers at home). I understand the request for opening and closing statements, but to allow the candidates to actually have enough time to say something of substance, it would eat up a lot of the actual debate time. I have no problem with the requests, but the threatening to boycott seems childish to me. As president you will constantly be faced with situations that you can't completely control or like which have much more significance than a debate. Are they always going to just take their ball and leave the playground? I agree the threats seem to be very childish. Can you imagine something like this on an international level. Lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 15:30:28 GMT
I think a timed debate is better because it can help keep the candidates on track. And longer than two hours - that's a long time for everybody involved (including the viewers at home). I understand the request for opening and closing statements, but to allow the candidates to actually have enough time to say something of substance, it would eat up a lot of the actual debate time. I have no problem with the requests, but the threatening to boycott seems childish to me. As president you will constantly be faced with situations that you can't completely control or like which have much more significance than a debate. Are they always going to just take their ball and leave the playground? Bingo - Give the lady a cigar.... Candidates ask for changes to the debate forums all the time and sometime they get the changes and sometime they don't. But what they don't do is threaten to boycott the debate or have the debate canceled if they don't get what they want. I don't consider Trump and Carson real candidates and before I heard Trump/Carson would try and cancel the debate if they don't get their way I thought it would be a good thing for the real candidates and the Republican Party in general if Trump/Carson weren't at the debate. Then the real candidates could have a real debate and discuss the issues important to the right. Which would be a good thing for the Republicans who have to decide who they want as their candidate for President. But I guess because this thread was started by someone on the left it may have been felt by some there was some sinister gotcha reason for starting the thread. Nope there was none. |
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Post by nurseypants on Oct 16, 2015 17:36:22 GMT
Is this the freaking twilight zone? I feel like it must be. Maybe Thurston Howell III will be the next republican front runner.
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