julieb
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Post by julieb on Oct 16, 2015 18:37:27 GMT
My dd's (dh and I are co-owners) sustained water damage from unit above hers. The owners A/C leaked and damaged walls in dd's unit. Then 2-3 weeks later his hot water heater went out and damaged some other walls. After contacting owner for 1st damage he was not forthcoming in the fact that his A/C leaked and we contacted management company.
So after management company told him he had to pay for damages we had someone give us an estimate. So this has been going on for quite a while and we had someone give us an estimate and forwarded to the other owner.
We got a e-mail from the guy that we should schedule the repair and he will pay repair company directly. DD writes him back and tells him that we would like the check to made directly to us because we want to make sure it is paid for before we have repairs. So the guy contacts the company and says he got the insurance payment and he pays the bill by credit card. He e-mails dd that the insurance company gave him the money and he was directed by the insurance company to distribute the payment directly to the repair place, as they want to make sure the repairs are made. Then he tells repair company he wants to know when they are coming so he can see that they are making repairs and he wants to see the final repair!!!! I say, no way are you coming into our unit to examine the repairs. It is none of his flippin' business. He did the damage - made a claim with his insurance - and should then mind his own business. I want to tell him this, but dd said to just go along with what he wants.
I've never heard of this. Wouldn't the insurance company make a check directly to us for repairs?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 18:47:51 GMT
When we had our roof replaced due to a hail storm, our insurance company made the check out to the roofing company. I think the insurance company wanted to make sure that we didn't take the money, pocket it, and not repair the roof.
IMO, I don't think the insurance company should make the check out to you. I don't think they should make it out to other unit owner either, IMO. But what HIS insurance company does really isn't your concern. Your #1 priority is making sure the repairs are done.
I would not allow other unit owner into your unit to inspect the work. If a claims adjuster from the insurance company paying for the repair wants to come and look at it, I'd be willing to do that. After all, they're the ones paying.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Oct 16, 2015 18:53:07 GMT
Most insurance company pay the repair company directly or they write a check to the owner and the repair company so both have to endorse it. In this case though, it kind of sounds like he is paying this himself rather than going through his insurance company, and he wanted to use a credit card.
I don't know why he wants to see it unless he wants to confirm that the job was done in a way that is going to last and not cost him more money.
As a side note, I would have let my insurance company help with this - they will communicate with the other insurance company and play middle man.
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 16, 2015 18:53:58 GMT
It really depends on the insurance company’s claim procedure. Some will issue the check to the claimant, others will issue to the contractor. The request to be on the spot, though, is odd, but I guess some people are just that way. In any event, your daughter is under no obligation to allow him inside her home. I’m guessing she’s acquiescing simply to end the matter. A potential issue, though, is if the neighbor makes a fuss about the repairs, that’s one thing to keep in mind. At the end of the day, it’s not up to him to ascertain whether the repair is satisfactory or not. Once the claim has been settled, whereby the insurance company has issued payment for the repair, that’s the end of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 18:56:47 GMT
If he is paying directly for the work, then why doesn't he ask the repair company to take pictures before and after? Or have your DD do so if you don't want him in your condo. But I do think he has the right to see it completed so he knows it is fixed and another claim can't be made later that it happened again (if it didn't and it just wasn't fixed the first time). I would think the management company would want documentation too. To protect all three sides. They want the issue to get fixed too!
So I can see both sides. You don't trust him to pay them directly and he doesn't trust the work gets done. I think both side should give a little and everyone should document what happens.
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Post by julieb on Oct 16, 2015 19:02:42 GMT
If he is paying directly for the work, then why doesn't he ask the repair company to take pictures before and after? Or have your DD do so if you don't want him in your condo. But I do think he has the right to see it completed so he knows it is fixed and another claim can't be made later that it happened again (if it didn't and it just wasn't fixed the first time). I would think the management company would want documentation too. To protect all three sides. They want the issue to get fixed too! So I can see both sides. You don't trust him to pay them directly and he doesn't trust the work gets done. I think both side should give a little and everyone should document what happens.
This is why I wonder if he is lying and paying out of pocket. I would think the insurance company would want a check signed to confirm and acknowledge settlement of the claim.
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Post by moosedogtoo on Oct 16, 2015 19:31:47 GMT
Since he supposedly paid with a credit card, I would be worried about him contesting the charge and the repair company coming after me for payment. The whole thing smells funny.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Oct 16, 2015 19:46:51 GMT
I'm trying to put myself into this situation. I really wouldn't care *how* he paid for it. Why does it matter if he wrote a check, paid by credit card or unloaded bag upon bag of pennies? If the repair company can verify the work is paid for, that's what matters, right? I can't see how the form of payment would make a difference to you...what am I missing?
And yes, if I was somehow involved in a claim with my neighbor's property I would want to make certain it was resolved and that my part of the transaction was complete. Personally I would be fine with pictures but I would want to know the problem was taken care of. I'd ask the property manager to come at an arranged time so there was an impartial third party there.
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Post by julieb on Oct 16, 2015 19:48:11 GMT
Since he supposedly paid with a credit card, I would be worried about him contesting the charge and the repair company coming after me for payment. The whole thing smells funny.
I thought of this also! I do know that the management company would step in. They have been very helpful. I would assume they would fine him and tack it onto is maintenance fee.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 16, 2015 20:02:49 GMT
I don't know about the payment, but I don't think it's unreasonable to allow him to see the repairs were made. What if there is a leak in the future? How would he know if it was new damage or old damage?
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 16, 2015 20:04:34 GMT
When our insurance paid for a new roof, the check was sent to us, but we had to endorse it and the roofer had to endorse it. I think we had to go to our bank to have something signed as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 20:14:34 GMT
Since he supposedly paid with a credit card, I would be worried about him contesting the charge and the repair company coming after me for payment. The whole thing smells funny.
He wouldn't win with the CC company if the repair company can prove he requested the repairs and they completed them. I deal with chargebacks for our companies all the time and have won many just on that basic documentation.
And if the condo-owner never requested or paid, the repair company couldn't then charge them, even if that is where the work was done. Just make sure your DD doesn't sign anything with the repair company. And that might be another reason for the other owner to sign off on the repairs. To protect you from owing should anything funny go wrong with the payment.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 20:16:24 GMT
When our insurance paid for a new roof, the check was sent to us, but we had to endorse it and the roofer had to endorse it. I think we had to go to our bank to have something signed as well.
Our check was to us and our mortgage company actually. If I remember correctly we had to show the mortgage holder the estimate and then it being completed to get them to endorse the check. It was a pain. Luckily they did have an office in our town though.
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Post by moosedogtoo on Oct 16, 2015 20:55:00 GMT
Since he supposedly paid with a credit card, I would be worried about him contesting the charge and the repair company coming after me for payment. The whole thing smells funny.
He wouldn't win with the CC company if the repair company can prove he requested the repairs and they completed them. I deal with chargebacks for our companies all the time and have won many just on that basic documentation.
And if the condo-owner never requested or paid, the repair company couldn't then charge them, even if that is where the work was done. Just make sure your DD doesn't sign anything with the repair company. And that might be another reason for the other owner to sign off on the repairs. To protect you from owing should anything funny go wrong with the payment.
I own a small business and have had a couple of bogus chargebacks go through even though I had all the documentation required, so I still worry about it. 
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Oct 16, 2015 21:17:57 GMT
This doesn't sound right. I would think his insurance company would send out a claim adjuster to inspect the damage in the condo. Then they would give suggested repair people and give the okay to start the work.
It sounds as though this guy is not going thru his insurance. I think it this situation, you should have access to a claim number and have all the insurance information in your possession from the other guys information.
If you really want to put it thru insurance, you can file a claim with your own company and then have they subrograte out to the other guys insurance company for payment.
Do not trust word of mouth in this situation.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Oct 16, 2015 21:21:45 GMT
This doesn't sound right. I would think his insurance company would send out a claim adjuster to inspect the damage in the condo. Then they would give suggested repair people and give the okay to start the work.
It sounds as though this guy is not going thru his insurance. I think it this situation, you should have access to a claim number and have all the insurance information in your possession from the other guys information.
If you really want to put it thru insurance, you can file a claim with your own company and then have they subrograte out to the other guys insurance company for payment.
Do not trust word of mouth in this situation. Why? What if he doesn't want to run it through his insurance? What if he wants to pay out of pocket?
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Post by kellybelly77 on Oct 16, 2015 21:57:41 GMT
Insurance companies will write checks to policyholders all the time and then the onus is on the policyholder to make sure the repairs get paid for. So that part doesn't seem out of place to me at all. But I don't see why pictures of the repair wouldn't suffice for evidence that they were in fact completed.
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Post by mlynn on Oct 17, 2015 5:58:23 GMT
something is hinky here. They would not pay him for your damages. Did you or daughter file a claim against his policy? If not, no check would be issued to anyone for damages to your property. The insurance company would not be off the hook if they do not get a release from the claimant. Even if they issue a check to the repair people, you would have to sign a release.
Also, are you hiring the repair people or is he? I would think you would want to be hiring them. Otherwise they are working for him, not for you. That could come into play when it comes to warranties or how you want the work done or materials.
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 17, 2015 15:54:42 GMT
When our insurance paid for a new roof, the check was sent to us, but we had to endorse it and the roofer had to endorse it. I think we had to go to our bank to have something signed as well.
Our check was to us and our mortgage company actually. If I remember correctly we had to show the mortgage holder the estimate and then it being completed to get them to endorse the check. It was a pain. Luckily they did have an office in our town though.
That sounds like what I had to do, so maybe the check was to us and the mortgage company then? I do remember having to go to the bank and endorse it in front of them. It was a bit annoying, but I was just so glad that they were paying for the roof.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 17, 2015 17:56:52 GMT
I read your thread title and exclaimed "oh no" out Loud!
Just over a year ago my upstairs neighbor's water tank failed on week two of my monthlong trip to Morocco. It wasn't discovered until it leaked through my place and into the condo below mine....as those neighbor's were quite literally on their way out the door for a two week trip to Turkey. Just a mess for both of us! Needless to say the damage was extensive, and dealing with it while I was literally in the middle of the Sahara was quite an undertaking. Ugh.
Our association management was only involved to the extent of getting our places ripped apart and dried out while we were away. We both came back to our ceilings, walls, and flooring torn apart and drywall dust everywhere.
Anyhow, getting paid turned into a bit of a pain as I attempted for the first several months to just deal with the owner's insurance company. I finally turned it over to my insurance to deal with because the other owner's company was depreciating my one year old wood floors (I had just purchased my place the year before and had all the floors replaced before moving in) and also wouldn't pay my deductible.
During this time I paid out of pocket for the repairs (about 11k), and my reimbursement check came directly from the insurance company to me. They did require photos of the damage, but not of the repairs. They also did come and pick up a piece of furniture that was damaged and that they paid to have replaced (it too was only a year old).
The gist of this is that if you're feeling uncomfortable with what's going on, I'd recommend turning the whole thing over to your insurance agent to deal with. In the end it didn't cost me a penny and my rates didn't go up. I wish I had let them handle it from day one. Good luck!
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Post by julieb on Oct 18, 2015 22:50:45 GMT
This doesn't sound right. I would think his insurance company would send out a claim adjuster to inspect the damage in the condo. Then they would give suggested repair people and give the okay to start the work.
It sounds as though this guy is not going thru his insurance. I think it this situation, you should have access to a claim number and have all the insurance information in your possession from the other guys information.
If you really want to put it thru insurance, you can file a claim with your own company and then have they subrograte out to the other guys insurance company for payment.
Do not trust word of mouth in this situation. Why? What if he doesn't want to run it through his insurance? What if he wants to pay out of pocket?
I thought he would pay out of pocket, but he specifically said his insurance was paying and that he was waiting on insurance. What is strange to me is that the insurance company has absolutely no proof that HE paid the repair company. I would think he would have to give a check and with our endorsement of said check, it is proof that we received it and the repairs would be made.
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Post by julieb on Oct 18, 2015 22:54:34 GMT
something is hinky here. They would not pay him for your damages. Did you or daughter file a claim against his policy? If not, no check would be issued to anyone for damages to your property. The insurance company would not be off the hook if they do not get a release from the claimant. Even if they issue a check to the repair people, you would have to sign a release. Also, are you hiring the repair people or is he? I would think you would want to be hiring them. Otherwise they are working for him, not for you. That could come into play when it comes to warranties or how you want the work done or materials.
No claim was made by us. We took pictures and forwarded to other owner. He claims he sent to his insurer with the estimate that we obtained. I agree about the release - the whole thing isn't sitting right with me and I think I will call the management company tomorrow to see if they have dealt with him. He is a new owner of this unit and I think he thinks he can do whatever he wants. The whole thing isn't sitting right with me.
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