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Post by bc2ca on Nov 4, 2015 17:30:06 GMT
Do you remember the September manhunt for three men involved in the killing of Lt. Gliniewicz north of Chicago? The investigation has concluded it was an elaborately staged suicide. Police Officer's Death Ruled a Suicide
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 17:39:03 GMT
Oh my goodness!
His family must be devastated. How could he commit those crimes and then kill himself so he wouldn't have to face the consequences?
ETA: I'm guessing he thought his reputation at GI Joe would prevent the authorities from delving deeper into what happened.
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Post by gritzi on Nov 4, 2015 17:47:33 GMT
Such a sad situation. I'm still puzzled by the conflicting reports. Police authorities ruled his death suicide, while the coroner reports he/she cannot rule out foul play.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 4, 2015 17:57:23 GMT
Such a sad situation. I'm still puzzled by the conflicting reports. Police authorities ruled his death suicide, while the coroner reports he/she cannot rule out foul play. Did the coroner release a statement today? I know previously he was leaning toward homicide pending more information from the police investigation. |
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Post by scrappinghappy on Nov 4, 2015 18:05:02 GMT
this is not going to end here. It's pretty local to us and there was and still appears to be a lot of conflicting information. I think it will end up on a 2020 special.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 18:15:03 GMT
The coroner had stated that death was from a single, close range gunshot, and neither suicide nor homicide could be ruled out. I don't think that contradicts the investigative findings at all. The specifics of death are only one part of the whole story.
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Post by Kerri W on Nov 4, 2015 18:21:33 GMT
The coroner had stated that death was from a single, close range gunshot, and neither suicide nor homicide could be ruled out. I don't think that contradicts the investigative findings at all. The specifics of death are only one part of the whole story. Yep. Manner of death: suicide, accident, undetermined, etc Cause of death: conditions that resulted in death |
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Nov 4, 2015 18:23:57 GMT
I wonder if he tried to make it not look like a suicide due to insurance benefits to his family. I feel so sorry for his family.
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Post by rainangel on Nov 4, 2015 18:26:50 GMT
I think the man giving the statement sums it up pretty good; There are no winners here. What a sad situation...
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 4, 2015 18:27:45 GMT
Boy, the public face of this man was really very different than his private life, wasn't it? Everyone spoke so glowingly of him.
I think if I were local, I would be most angry at the resources that were spent by the community to find the phantom criminals. Seems like a lot of money and time was wasted and that just isn't right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 18:38:17 GMT
I wonder if he tried to make it not look like a suicide due to insurance benefits to his family. I feel so sorry for his family. I think it's more likely that he hoped the investigation into his wrongdoings would just be dropped because he was dead, and his family would be spared embarrassment. Suicide does not necessarily preclude life insurance from paying out. Often, if a policy has been in force for a certain minimum number of years, it still pays if the insured later commits suicide. My father committed suicide, but we still received his full life insurance benefits. |
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Post by lucyg on Nov 4, 2015 18:59:13 GMT
I wonder if he tried to make it not look like a suicide due to insurance benefits to his family. I feel so sorry for his family. I think it's more likely that he hoped the investigation into his wrongdoings would just be dropped because he was dead, and his family would be spared embarrassment. Suicide does not necessarily preclude life insurance from paying out. Often, if a policy has been in force for a certain minimum number of years, it still pays if the insured later commits suicide. My father committed suicide, but we still received his full life insurance benefits. No, but if he were murdered in the line of duty, it would entitle his family to many public benefits they won't receive if his death is ruled a suicide. ETA this is a very sad story all the way around. I hate to see a cop go bad, I hate to see anyone take their own life, I hate the wasted resources and pain for the community, thinking it was a homicide. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 19:03:29 GMT
I think it's more likely that he hoped the investigation into his wrongdoings would just be dropped because he was dead, and his family would be spared embarrassment. Suicide does not necessarily preclude life insurance from paying out. Often, if a policy has been in force for a certain minimum number of years, it still pays if the insured later commits suicide. My father committed suicide, but we still received his full life insurance benefits. No, but if he were murdered in the line of duty, it would entitle his family to many public benefits they won't receive if his death is ruled a suicide. ETA this is a very sad story all the way around. I hate to see a cop go bad, I hate to see anyone take their own life, I hate the wasted resources and pain for the community, thinking it was a homicide. Can his family lose his pension, etc. because of his crimes while living? |
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Post by lucyg on Nov 4, 2015 19:10:01 GMT
No, but if he were murdered in the line of duty, it would entitle his family to many public benefits they won't receive if his death is ruled a suicide. ETA this is a very sad story all the way around. I hate to see a cop go bad, I hate to see anyone take their own life, I hate the wasted resources and pain for the community, thinking it was a homicide. Can his family lose his pension, etc. because of his crimes while living? I honestly don't know about that. It may be possible. I know my pension has a clause (written in the '50s) about how I can lose it if I'm found guilty of poor behavior, like being a drunk or a loose woman or something, I guess. Not that I think they ever have or ever would enforce a clause like that.  And I meant to say, I'm sorry about your dad. I know you've mentioned his suicide before, but I'm not sure I ever said anything. Suicide just multiplies all the usual pain of losing someone you love.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 19:19:45 GMT
What I heard on the news was that there was other DNA found at the scene, in addition to his own, and that it doesn't match criminal registries. So now they are testing other policemen to see if someone else might be involved. It seems like a tangled web.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 4, 2015 22:19:51 GMT
This is local to me too. This is very sad. I can't imagine the emotions that the family is having.
They said he was an expert in setting up crime scenes. Did he bring in someone else's DNA? Could that be done? I suppose so, but don't know for sure. What a tragedy......
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 5, 2015 10:46:28 GMT
That link didn't work for me. Here it is again.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 5, 2015 12:43:54 GMT
I would think he would know about texts being recovered, but maybe he thought by shooting at his cell phone it would destroy both the phone and anything that had been on it.
It's a very sad mess.....
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Post by katieanna on Nov 5, 2015 17:00:46 GMT
this is not going to end here. It's pretty local to us and there was and still appears to be a lot of conflicting information. I think it will end up on a 2020 special. I saw this on the news last night and was shocked. It will be interesting to see further developments. |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 5, 2015 17:19:31 GMT
I was feeling bad for them yesterday, but now don't know what to say except what a mess. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:31:24 GMT
I was feeling bad for them yesterday, but now don't know what to say except what a mess. Yes, me too. I was angry at him for putting his family through such a traumatic situation. But now? It seems like they knew and participated in the scheme. How soulless do you have to be to do something like that? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:42:40 GMT
I was feeling bad for them yesterday, but now don't know what to say except what a mess. Ditto I still tend to think he staged it hoping they would stop investigating the case if they believed he died in the line of duty. Though now I think his motivation would not be to spare his family embarrassment but rather to spare them jail  |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 5, 2015 17:47:28 GMT
I heard on the news that the wife and son are now under scrutiny for spending the I'll gained money!!!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 5, 2015 20:21:55 GMT
I keep thinking how neighbors of criminals are always perplexed how the person could have committed whatever the crime was. That seems to be doubled in this case -- he was such a celebrated police officer. It makes you wonder if you can really ever know the heart of anybody.
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Post by PLurker on Nov 5, 2015 20:31:25 GMT
Yeah, it's within a half hour of here. For some reason, it always gave me an add feeling. First I was hoping it wasn't some kids that had drugs or something and just panicked. Then there was rumblings of suicide from someone closer to the situation and it got creepier to me then. So sad. What a big mess and waste of resources.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Nov 5, 2015 20:37:01 GMT
i hate dirty cops! Gives the good ones a bad name and what pisses me off even more is IF it is true the wife and son are in on it. A few of my police wife groups im in have raised money and donated gift cards for this family since this cops passing. It makes me sick to know this money went to 2 people who *maybe* could be in on the whole thing. I mean just yesterday a lady knows the family and was putting together another fundraiser. I do believe this was before the info was released about his wife and son though.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 5, 2015 20:41:50 GMT
I just wonder what was going on 7 years ago (that's when they say it started) to have him go bad. It really makes me wonder.
It also makes me wonder if things were always bad and they haven't found that info out yet or aren't sharing that info.
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Post by PLurker on Nov 6, 2015 4:09:58 GMT
Now they are saying (on news now) that he was going to hire a gang member to kill town administrator and he forced his MISTRESS to do something bur haven't said what yet. The muck gets deeper and deeper... link <<<<Fox Lake cop Joseph Gliniewicz had Army son enter ‘sham marriage’ with his mistress to boost military benefits: report wow just wow. |
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