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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 5, 2015 21:18:53 GMT
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Post by freebird on Nov 5, 2015 21:42:46 GMT
I would think he's finally hit the liberal media's radar.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 5, 2015 21:45:58 GMT
I think he may be a very smart man but something is off about him. As many have said before, he is just creepy. I don't think he is above making up stories. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He is definitely not all there.
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Post by lucyg on Nov 5, 2015 22:41:17 GMT
Wow. I haven't read his book, but I was certainly under the impression that he grew up running the streets/in a gang/that sort of thing. His upbringing actually sounds much more working class than that, and I guess he was always a nerdy academic type who wanted to be a doctor.  |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Nov 5, 2015 22:52:38 GMT
CNN is investing a lot of time and energy trying to destroy Carson as a candidate. If they spent equal time investigating HilLIERy and Bill's back room deals to enrich themselves and their Foundation since they left the White House "dead broke" then I'd have nothing to complain about.
The last thing this Country needs is another Clinton or Bush in the White House.
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Post by dreamer on Nov 6, 2015 0:34:50 GMT
That is what I am thinking. They had to go back to 1998 to find something on the guy?
People change. Opinions change. We've heard it all from all of the candidates and the President himself. I'm not saying I'm voting for him I'm just agreeing with back to Pea....
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Post by happymomma on Nov 6, 2015 0:47:58 GMT
I did read the book they are talking about.
It was very impressive and shows that anyone can make something of themselves if they try hard enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 0:55:53 GMT
I'm not a Carson fan...not sure I want him as my candidate but I think it's quite ironic that the same people that are a-ok with all of Hillary's lies are squawking about Carson. I also totally expected the media to begin tearing him apart...it's about that time and they see him as a threat to Queen Hillary.
It's almost comical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 1:16:57 GMT
Congratulations I believe a new record has been achieved. 4th post the comments were less about the original question about Ben Carson and more about Hillary Clinton. The second strike came by the 7th post. Again Hillary was dragged into a thread about Ben Carson.
I believe that may be a new record.
Well carry on.
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Post by sugarmama on Nov 6, 2015 1:18:15 GMT
I'm pretty certain my childhood neighbors are not aware of some things I have done, so the fact that his neighbors don't know his every move does not concern me in the least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 1:23:42 GMT
I'm not a Carson fan...not sure I want him as my candidate but I think it's quite ironic that the same people that are a-ok with all of Hillary's lies are squawking about Carson. I also totally expected the media to begin tearing him apart...it's about that time and they see him as a threat to Queen Hillary. It's almost comical. Well, a recent NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed Carson tying Hillary in a general election with a very strong showing from independents. So it's no surprise that childhood friends are now being asked to recall events from 50 years ago in the hopes that something can be dug up on Carson. Yet Hillary's past and present misdeeds are ignored and dismissed as a right-wing conspiracy. If it weren't so obvious, it might be funny. |
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 6, 2015 1:23:55 GMT
I think he is crazy. Really.
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Post by utmr on Nov 6, 2015 1:28:53 GMT
I think he is crazy. Really. Yes, that. Bat$hit crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 1:29:21 GMT
I am all about quiet confidence but I'm still thinking he's probably too good for that job. I would sincerely love to vote for a non-politician but I'm not sure Washington DC wouldn't shred him.
Maybe I've watched too much Scandal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 1:30:01 GMT
I'm not a Carson fan...not sure I want him as my candidate but I think it's quite ironic that the same people that are a-ok with all of Hillary's lies are squawking about Carson. I also totally expected the media to begin tearing him apart...it's about that time and they see him as a threat to Queen Hillary. It's almost comical. Well, a recent NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed Carson tying Hillary in a general election with a very strong showing from independents. So it's no surprise that childhood friends are now being asked to recall events from 50 years ago in the hopes that something can be dug up on Carson. Yet Hillary's past and present misdeeds are ignored and dismissed as a right-wing conspiracy. If it weren't so obvious, it might be funny. The Quinnipiac poll released yesterday has Carson beating Hillary by 10 percentage points...50 to 40.
www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2299
Edited to add...the same Quinnipiac poll has Cruz, Christie and Rubio defeating Clinton as well.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 6, 2015 1:59:21 GMT
Well, a recent NBC-Wall Street Journal poll showed Carson tying Hillary in a general election with a very strong showing from independents. So it's no surprise that childhood friends are now being asked to recall events from 50 years ago in the hopes that something can be dug up on Carson. Yet Hillary's past and present misdeeds are ignored and dismissed as a right-wing conspiracy. If it weren't so obvious, it might be funny. The Quinnipiac poll released yesterday has Carson beating Hillary by 10 percentage points...50 to 40.
www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2299
Edited to add...the same Quinnipiac poll has Cruz, Christie and Rubio defeating Clinton as well.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 6, 2015 2:33:14 GMT
Slightly over 1000 voters. It's way too early to have an accurate estimate. With 44% Republicans, 42% Democrats, 14% Independents polled, I'd expect the Republicans to win the match-ups. Trump must be upset he didn't  . |
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Post by shelby on Nov 6, 2015 3:02:00 GMT
To those who think Ben Carson is crazy or creepy would you explain what makes you think that. Not saying you're right or wrong, just wanting to know.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 6, 2015 3:06:37 GMT
for a scientist...a doctor not to believe in evolution..boggles the mind..let alone the stuff in the past.
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Post by DinCA on Nov 6, 2015 3:23:53 GMT
I'm a republican without an agenda, who hasn't chosen a candidate, and I think there's something off about him. I will not be voting for him. And I'm surprised his popularity is growing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 3:24:29 GMT
He's the surgeon that separated conjoined twins Walt & Bob Tenor in one of my favorite movies ever. Other than that, I got nothing. Haven't read the book, probably not going to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 3:29:33 GMT
for a scientist...a doctor not to believe in evolution..boggles the mind..let alone the stuff in the past. It's understandable to think it doesn't make sense, but it's not uncommon for doctors who don't believe in evolution and it's not uncommon for people to be unaware of what's going on in their neighbors life. |
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 6, 2015 3:55:45 GMT
To those who think Ben Carson is crazy or creepy would you explain what makes you think that. Not saying you're right or wrong, just wanting to know. He thinks that the pyramids were built to store grain (said long ago and he still claims it is plausible) Said that many go into prison straight, but become gay while in prison Thinks Planned Parenthood puts their clinics in black neighborhoods to control the black population thinks that if the Jews would have had guns, the Holocaust would not have been so bad |
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Post by CarolT on Nov 6, 2015 4:05:39 GMT
I've read Gifted Hands many times (it was a favorite of my high school Medical Careers Magnet students). My students came from a wide variety of backgrounds and they found his story inspiring - I hosted a student lunch time book club, and this is one that was selected by kids nearly every year! For teenagers who aspire to become physicians, reading about one of the most accomplished surgeons in the world overcoming very difficult home circumstances and tremendous barriers is empowering.
I was a Dr. Ben Carson fan - I am not a Candidate Ben Carson fan. I do not share his political point of view and do not believe he would be an effective president.
That being said, I do believe his stories about his temper and violent outburst. People change - few of us are the "same" person we were when we were 14. Evidently my dh had an awful temper when he was 10-15, but you would never know that today (and I've rarely even seen much of a temper at all). The fact that Ben Carson's high school classmates don't recall the events really doesn't mean much to me - we're talking things that happened 50 years ago that probably didn't really make that big of an impression on the student body at large. I graduated from high school about 30 years ago... I remember that there were kids that got into fights, but I don't remember who the fighters were or what happened. The big things I remember from high school: the head cheerleader got pregnant, a football player became a paraplegic after a bad hit in a game, and a very sweet girl in our class died from leukemia our sophomore year.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 6, 2015 4:10:48 GMT
To those who think Ben Carson is crazy or creepy would you explain what makes you think that. Not saying you're right or wrong, just wanting to know. Among other things, I find his theory that the pyramids are ancient grain silos not pharaohs' graves concerning. I don't have a problem with his 1998 book (I haven't read it) and do believe he is talented surgeon. I do not see him as a world leader. |
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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 6, 2015 4:21:45 GMT
To those who think Ben Carson is crazy or creepy would you explain what makes you think that. Not saying you're right or wrong, just wanting to know. He thinks that the pyramids were built to store grain (said long ago and he still claims it is plausible) Said that many go into prison straight, but become gay while in prison Thinks Planned Parenthood puts their clinics in black neighborhoods to control the black population thinks that if the Jews would have had guns, the Holocaust would not have been so bad I was surprised to see Glenn Beck on CNN a little while ago. Even more surprised to hear him say that he thinks that Carson is wrong about the pyramids. I missed the beginning of the interview, so I don't know what else he may have said. I do believe that Carson has out trumped Trump in the land of crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 4:26:42 GMT
To those who think Ben Carson is crazy or creepy would you explain what makes you think that. Not saying you're right or wrong, just wanting to know. He thinks that the pyramids were built to store grain (said long ago and he still claims it is plausible) No idea where that comes from. Could it be part of his religion? This one boggled the mind when I heard him say it, but when I look into where his thought process comes from... "In the 1950s or '60s, there was a concept of situational homosexuality that talked about men going to prison and 'became gay' because of the lack of women." - Helen Eigenberg, professor of criminal justice at the University of Tennessee, who has been studying sexuality and incarceration for about 25 years. “I’m a doctor trained in multiple fields of medicine, who was blessed to work at perhaps the finest institution of medical knowledge in the world. Some of our brightest minds have looked at this debate, and up until this point there have been no definitive studies that people are born into a specific sexuality.” Dr. Ben Carson citing his scientific training as informing his views of homosexuality. Didn't Margaret Sanger create Planned Parenthood to control the black population? This one seems so obvious. If they don't take away your ability to resist, you have a better chance at resisting. I don't know if Carson will make a good President or not, but other than the pyramid one, which I know nothing about where that comes from, when I look at the reasoning and logic behind them, I don't see these things as creepy or crazy. Whether or not I agree with them is not at issue, just acknowledging the logic behind them. |
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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 6, 2015 4:30:45 GMT
I've read Gifted Hands many times (it was a favorite of my high school Medical Careers Magnet students). My students came from a wide variety of backgrounds and they found his story inspiring - I hosted a student lunch time book club, and this is one that was selected by kids nearly every year! For teenagers who aspire to become physicians, reading about one of the most accomplished surgeons in the world overcoming very difficult home circumstances and tremendous barriers is empowering. I was a Dr. Ben Carson fan - I am not a Candidate Ben Carson fan. I do not share his political point of view and do not believe he would be an effective president. That being said, I do believe his stories about his temper and violent outburst. People change - few of us are the "same" person we were when we were 14. Evidently my dh had an awful temper when he was 10-15, but you would never know that today (and I've rarely even seen much of a temper at all). The fact that Ben Carson's high school classmates don't recall the events really doesn't mean much to me - we're talking things that happened 50 years ago that probably didn't really make that big of an impression on the student body at large. I graduated from high school about 30 years ago... I remember that there were kids that got into fights, but I don't remember who the fighters were or what happened. The big things I remember from high school: the head cheerleader got pregnant, a football player became a paraplegic after a bad hit in a game, and a very sweet girl in our class died from leukemia our sophomore year. I am 60 and remember three fights when I was in school and the names of the people involved. Two were minor skirmishes. One was tragic and a boy died. He fell and a stub went through his eye into his brain. No matter how old a person is, I would think that they would remember an attempted stabbing and another fight where a nose was broken. Either it happened and he has/had serious anger issues, or he is lying which is a whole different issue. Either one not good. He may have over embellished his story to sell his book. He apparently has said quite a few off the wall things. |
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 6, 2015 4:47:01 GMT
He thinks that the pyramids were built to store grain (said long ago and he still claims it is plausible) No idea where that comes from. Is it part of his religion? "In the 1950s or '60s, there was a concept of situational homosexuality that talked about men going to prison and 'became gay' because of the lack of women." - Helen Eigenberg, professor of criminal justice at the University of Tennessee, who has been studying sexuality and incarceration for about 25 years. “I’m a doctor trained in multiple fields of medicine, who was blessed to work at perhaps the finest institution of medical knowledge in the world. Some of our brightest minds have looked at this debate, and up until this point there have been no definitive studies that people are born into a specific sexuality.” Dr. Ben Carson citing his scientific training as informing his views of homosexuality. Didn't Margaret Sanger create Planned Parenthood to control the black population? This one seems so obvious. If they don't take away your ability to resist, you have a better chance at resisting. I don't know if Carson will make a good President or not, but other than the pyramid one, which I know nothing about where that comes from, when I look at the reasoning and logic behind them, I don't see these things as creepy or crazy. Whether or not I agree with them is not at issue, just acknowledging the logic behind them. Pyarmids: “Now, my own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson continued. “Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big — when you stop and think about it, and I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time — to store that much grain.” Gay is a choice: During the interview Wednesday morning, when Carson was asked by Chris Cuomo whether being gay is a choice, he replied: "Absolutely." "Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight -- and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question," Carson said. Planned Parenthood Planned parenthood gave black women in the south access to birth control because the clinics there were segregated. Was she racist? There is a good possibility as many were in that time. Guns and the Holocaust: The Nazis killed thousands of armed military members. Could an armed person have take out a Nazi or two? Of course, but in the end, it was the atmosphere in Germany and not the lack of guns that led to the Holocaust. |
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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 6, 2015 4:58:22 GMT
I'm not a Carson fan...not sure I want him as my candidate but I think it's quite ironic that the same people that are a-ok with all of Hillary's lies are squawking about Carson. I also totally expected the media to begin tearing him apart...it's about that time and they see him as a threat to Queen Hillary. It's almost comical. I could be wrong, but I don't think that you will find where I have posted about Hillary, not in this thread or any of the others on this board. The automatic deflection is what I find comical. The Presidential race should not be what party can win, but which candidate is the best to lead this country. I try to look at all candidates. When crazy pops out, it is hard to ignore. To be honest, I don't care for Cruz, but I found that I liked some of what he was saying in an interview today. I won't vote for him because I have heard him say things that I don't agree with. There are Republican candidates that would better represent the US than Trump or Carson. I try not to look at which candidate has the better chance of beating or losing to the nominee of the other side, but which one will do the best job if my choice loses to them. I want the top best from each party running. This isn't a football game. It is at least four years that may drastically affect the lives of millions of people. I started this thread to discuss Carson and see how others feel about the things that are coming out about him, both supporters and non- supporters. |
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