lesley
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Post by lesley on Jul 21, 2014 21:28:23 GMT
Last Monday my DD19 was admitted to hospital with severe abdominal pain and vomiting. Over the course if the week she had two u/s scans and one CT scan. They ruled out appendicitis, ovarian cysts, gall stones and pancreatitis. She was discharged on Saturday with a diagnosis of ovulatory pain. She was unable to keep any food or drink down the whole week. By this evening, she was once more sobbing in agony with the pain (starts above her navel, goes down her right side) and still throwing up anything she swallows - including the pain meds, anti-spasmodic meds and anti-emetic meds she was prescribed on discharge. So we're back in A&E, she's doped up on morphine, and waiting to be re-admitted. I'm concerned they're not taking her seriously because she has had several admissions over the last couple of years from depression and suicide attempts.
Does anyone recognise any condition from these symptoms that I could throw at her doctors?
UPDATE: DD got a laparoscopy this afternoon. Surgeon had told her they would remove her appendix too. I've just arrived at hospital and DD said she still has her appendix but they removed a cyst. She's still pretty out of it so I'm waiting to speak to her doctor.
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scorpeao
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 21, 2014 21:35:30 GMT
A friend of mine was diagnosed with abdominal migraines. Her symptoms were very similar to your dd's. She spent over a year sick. I think she now follows a very strict diet. She's also celiac, so her diet is crazy. It's basically very little dairy, no processed foods at all, no citrus, no chocolate and no caffeine. Good luck. It seems that GI issues are some of the hardest to diagnose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 21:37:13 GMT
I know you've said they've ruled out appendicitis but you've described my appendicitis to a T.
Ask her to bring her right knee up to her chest and see if the pain stops. That's what the Dr did to me.
I hope they find out what the problem is soon for her.
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MaryC
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Post by MaryC on Jul 21, 2014 21:39:02 GMT
Ruling out gall stones does not rule out gallbladder disease. I had a normal ultrasound but when I had a HIDA scan my gallbladder was only functioning at 7 percent of normal, and they scheduled me for surgery right away. My primary symptom was severe nausea and vomiting, with pain going into my back. I never had pain the typical location for gallbladder issues.
Hoping your daughter finds relief soon. If she hasn't had a consult with a GI doctor I would ask for one.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2014 21:40:02 GMT
I'm surprised they put her on morphine without an idea of what is wrong if she is a frequent flyer.
Perhaps a visit to her primary care physician would be more beneficial than the hospital (which is what I guess A&E is.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 21, 2014 21:46:01 GMT
I don't know maybe try different doctors? (since some doctors have an issue with admitting they were wrong ) I have a hard time thinking that a doctor thinks it's ok to have ovulatory pain for a whole week and not keep food down. I get pretty bad ovulatory pain that can keep me double over for nearly an hour but there is a huge difference between an hour, or even a few days and a whole week or more.
I have had experience in my family with exactly 2 abdominal issues 1 appendicitis but not enflamed or enlarged - hard to find - treated with drugs not operated on. Which had symptoms similar to what you describe. 2 a unexplained hole in the intestines nearly diagnosed too late because the stubborn male patient refused to go to the ER for a 'stomach ache' emergency surgery saved his life, it was not hard to diagnose once the patient was in the ER.
I sure hope your DD feels better soon and the doctors can figure out what is causing her so much pain.
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Post by MommyofTriplets on Jul 21, 2014 21:52:56 GMT
The only thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned is bowel obstruction.
I hope your DD gets answers (and relief) soon.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 21, 2014 21:53:38 GMT
My daughter had flare ups for several years exactly as you are describing. It was a mucus seal on her appendix. Thy had to remove her appendix and a section of her colon. She has been fine ever since.
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~Susan~
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Post by ~Susan~ on Jul 21, 2014 22:02:31 GMT
I have no clue, but I hope you get some answers soon!
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gsquaredmom
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 21, 2014 22:20:36 GMT
Sounds like appendix to me.
Diverticulitis and/ or perforated bowel.
Ectopic pregnancy.
Bowel obstruction.
Longshot--some sort of stomach or other cancer
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Post by flanz on Jul 21, 2014 23:19:28 GMT
I'm sorry your daughter is in so much pain. I hope you find answers and a cure soon~
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 21, 2014 23:33:01 GMT
I vote for appendix. It presents itself differently for some people. Mine pain was not typical, however, I was throwing up and going to the bathroom every 20 minutes on the mark for about 3 hours. My blood pressure was dropping to a dangerous level by the time I went to ER. I had just been to the doctor that day and we thought maybe it was a cyst or diverticulitis acting up. Before I was able to get home and get the meds the "fun" started.
We had a student become gravely ill due to his appendix rupturing. The ER sent him home because everyone in the house had the stomach virus.
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Post by ljs1691 on Jul 21, 2014 23:48:29 GMT
I wondered about diverticulitis too. The pockets can rupture and be very dangerous and extremely painful. It is more common on the left side but I can say from experience it does happen on the right side too.
So sorry she is going thru this. Keep pushing until you get answers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 23:48:52 GMT
Maybe diverticulitis ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 23:50:12 GMT
My mother had many of the symptoms when her bowels had ruptured. It was from diverticulitis. We found out it doesnt show up unless it is specifically looked for. I hope she is better soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 2:52:36 GMT
I was thinking diverticulitis also as this sounds exactly like what my mother suffered with for years. Ectopic pregnancy can be extremely painful and will prove fatal if not caught and excised in time, and true that a absence of gall stones does not automatically rule out gall bladder disease.
I think it's important to get a second opinion too if you feel the docs aren't being thorough or are thinking she's faking for attention.
Good luck I hope she feels better, please update when you know something.
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Post by mcscrapper on Jul 22, 2014 3:09:38 GMT
ER nurse here.....sounds a lot like diverticulitis or even an ectopic pregnancy. It could also still be a hot appendix or some gallbladder disease.
I'm guessing she had some routine labs drawn with a CBC and BMP to look at any possible signs of infection with an elevated white count.
Let me know if you have specific questions.
meredith
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zella
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Post by zella on Jul 22, 2014 3:20:24 GMT
That poor girl. And I'm sure you are beside yourself. I'm the mom to a 22 year old with chronic health problems, and it is the single biggest worry in my life.
I call BS on the ovulation pain; for a day or two, maybe. Not for over a week.
I second the idea that it could be gallbladder disease without stones. Has she had a HIDA scan? Sphincter of Oddi disorder (spasm of the biliary duct) Atypical appendicitis (is she on any drugs that act as anti-inflammatories? They can make a diseased appendix look normal) Partial bowel obstruction Stomach or duodenal ulcer Abdominal migraine. This needs to be considered and ruled out if possible, because it is a frequently missed cause of abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting. Gastroparesis (slowing down of the GI tract) Urinary tract infection or kidney infection
Why was she discharged if she couldn't keep anything down? That is ridiculous! You may need to just make yourself a total pain in the ass to the drs there, and demand tests, demand answers, and refuse to take her home until she is better.
She should be getting anti-emetics either rectally or (preferably) via IV. You can take 3 or 4 different meds at once to control nausea and vomiting. After surgery, I've had zofran IV, phenergan oral and the scopalamine patch behind the ear all at the same time. This vomiting can and should be treated very aggressively.
Was your daughter on IV hydration the whole time she was in the hospital?
I'll see if i can think of anything else, and I'll check in. I'm so sorry.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jul 22, 2014 12:28:52 GMT
Kidney stones? My OH gets these, and rolls about on the floor, grey, sweating and vomiting until the stone has passed. Morphine is not a good idea for this.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 22, 2014 13:57:23 GMT
Take her to a different hospital. I was so sick that I had to go to my local one. I only had 20 minutes of all clear to make it somewhere. Thankfully, they figured it out, but I still hesitated about surgery there. Going to a different one if that is choice may help if they don't recognize her.
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Post by gar on Jul 22, 2014 14:05:59 GMT
Ugh Lesley, how awful for you both. I can't add anything to the list of suggestions but really hope you can get some answers very soon. Do let us know!
"Perhaps a visit to her primary care physician would be more beneficial than the hospital (which is what I guess A&E is."
A and E (accident and emergency) is ER. I'm guessing that with that level of pain and vomiting her GP would send her to the nearest A and E anyway.
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Post by I-95 on Jul 22, 2014 14:09:43 GMT
I haven't got a clue, but it sounds serious. I hope they find a cause really soon. Please come back and update us.
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scrappert
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Post by scrappert on Jul 22, 2014 14:50:26 GMT
I hope you find some answers soon. It is not fun being in so much pain and they can't figure out why!
Thinking of your daughter.
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gsquaredmom
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 23, 2014 17:01:50 GMT
Am thinking about your dd and wondering if there is an update of how she is doing?
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Post by swtpeasmom on Jul 23, 2014 17:20:53 GMT
I too thought of appendix - mine had ruptured with a slow leak when I had similar symptoms as your daughter. They did an ultrasound and vaginal ultrasound to diagnose. I had emergency surgery at 1am.
Could also be partial obstructed bowel, as others have mentioned.
I hope they figure it out soon and she feels better!
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Post by auntbubbanonni on Jul 23, 2014 18:14:19 GMT
I agree it could still be gallbladder without having gallstones. My HIDA scan diagnosed my nasty gallbladder which needed removal.
The other thing I immediately thought of is gastroparesis. It is an uncommon disease and often misdiagnosed for years in some people. A gastric emptying study is the best diagnostic tool for that. I've been in your daughter's shoes before, and even though I'm now diagnosed and have a treatment plan, I still have episodes like you're describing.
You're both in my thoughts.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 23, 2014 19:07:01 GMT
Hope she starts feeling better!
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Post by Dixie Lou on Jul 23, 2014 23:03:52 GMT
My daughter had kidney stones. She had severe pain and vomiting (on a cross-country road trip with a friend .) it would come and go over the span of a few days. It lasted a month before she finally passed them.
I hope your daughter feels better soon.
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zella
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Post by zella on Jul 23, 2014 23:06:17 GMT
Please update us when you have time; I've been thinking about you both a lot.
I wish they'd taken her appendix while they were in there; seems dumb not to.
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