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Post by scrappintoee on Nov 6, 2015 14:39:07 GMT
I've been meaning to ask this for a while----does anyone notice that that CONDITIONER they supply with home hair color (I've used several brands, and they are ALL like this!!!) makes your hair SO soft & tangle free? The reason I mention this is, ANYTHING else I use after a normal shampoo NEVER makes my hair that soft, and mostly---tangle free----I have to be VERY gentle with the wide-toothed comb after shampooing & conditioning, because my hair is ALWAYS tangly! This is true no matter WHAT I use----I do deep conditioning once in a while with coconut oil, warm olive oil, the hot oil treatments they sell, and in between those, just regular conditioners----many different types & brands. Is there a conditioner out there that I can use with EVERY shampoo that'll make my hair as tangle-free and SILKY as the tiny tube that comes with my hair color? THANKS!!!  ***andd, off topic, and if you still feel like reading----- I just want to vent, and I'm going to assume some (a lot  ) of you will agree----ARRGHH!!--- I RARELY blow-dry my hair, but the other day, I wanted it to look really NICE. I tried---I TRIED to do everything my wonderful salon professionals have shown me when THEY cut and dry my hair and it turns out SO nice... WHY WHY WHYYYY can I not get my blowout to look as NICE as it does when a professional does it? Another thing that kills me is that every time I get a cut and blowout by a professional, my naturally wavy hair is SO smooth and straight-ish, and they NEVER even need to use a flat iron. I can blow dry it as close to how they do it as possible, and it STILL comes out too puffy and unmanageable......But if I REALLY want it to look extra nice, I'll flat iron.....but still, even that doesn't make it as pretty and straight as they style it with JUST a blowdryer.....ARRGGH! (this is really just a vent.....lol.....I don't expect actual answers.....because I have TRIED and TRIED and TRIED-- and THAT is why my hair usually ends up in a pony tail.....ARRGGGHHH!!!) I am getting to where IF I could find a wig that looked natural, I would wear one! Thanks for "listening" to my vents... I hate to complain about such an unimportant, VAIN, first world problem, but y'know....sometimes a girl just wants pretty hair! |
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Post by myshelly on Nov 6, 2015 14:44:10 GMT
Have you considered that the difference is the shampoo?
After you color your hair you rinse with water and then condition. No shampoo involved. and you like the way it turns out.
Perhaps a no shampoo method would be better for you.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Nov 6, 2015 14:48:26 GMT
I think some of it if also the condition of your hair following the color. The cuticle is usually different right after hair color than with normal shampooing.
As for a blow out, the perfect ones come with sectioning off the hair and drying it in small sections, using the right tool and a lot of patience as you go. Check You Tube for some videos on how to get a good blow out.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 6, 2015 14:53:32 GMT
Have you considered that the difference is the shampoo? After you color your hair you rinse with water and then condition. No shampoo involved. and you like the way it turns out. Perhaps a no shampoo method would be better for you. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I always shampoo after I rinse the color out of my hair. And that conditioner is great.
I have found that using Pureology Hydrate is the best shampoo and conditioner I could possibly use. It's pretty pricey. But it was invaluable when my hair was long and blond and very, very dry. Now that my hair is short and red, I find it's not nearly as dry and I don't need really special shampoo and conditioner. So I totally think length and color has something to do with the quality of my hair, as well.
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Post by ginacivey on Nov 6, 2015 14:54:21 GMT
a good blowout also depends on the right hair products
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Post by PeachStatePea on Nov 6, 2015 14:54:05 GMT
Is your stylist putting a product on your hair before blowing it out? They might be using something that you could buy that would smooth it out so nicely.
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Post by oliquig on Nov 6, 2015 15:12:49 GMT
Not to mention they probably have a better blow dryer and brush than you as well.
Not to mention they don't have to try to work behind their own heads to do it!
Try a bit of argon oil in your hair (i use the Moroccanoil brand) after you shower, and not shampooing at every shower.
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Post by myshelly on Nov 6, 2015 15:15:34 GMT
Have you considered that the difference is the shampoo? After you color your hair you rinse with water and then condition. No shampoo involved. and you like the way it turns out. Perhaps a no shampoo method would be better for you. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I always shampoo after I rinse the color out of my hair. And that conditioner is great.
I have found that using Pureology Hydrate is the best shampoo and conditioner I could possibly use. It's pretty pricey. But it was invaluable when my hair was long and blond and very, very dry. Now that my hair is short and red, I find it's not nearly as dry and I don't need really special shampoo and conditioner. So I totally think length and color has something to do with the quality of my hair, as well.
The directions on the color I use (and every color I have ever checked out) specifically say NOT to shampoo. |
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 6, 2015 15:19:45 GMT
A good blowout definitely takes practice and having the right tools and the right products in your hair. So I would say practice practice practice!
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Post by peabrain on Nov 6, 2015 15:26:52 GMT
I was a HUGE flat iron-er. LOL
Until I recently got my haircut this last time and really watched how my stylist did it.
I've been watching a lot of you tube videos on how to get some wave/curl with just the blow dry or you could search blow out with the blow dryer. I use a big round brush and section like people said above.
I have long really thick hair but it really doesn't take as long now this way....not like it used to, having to then flat iron it all out. I like the movement to it as well.
I had to give up the idea that my hair had to be stick straight and I've had many compliments on it now. I love it and its so much easier this way.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 6, 2015 15:28:48 GMT
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I always shampoo after I rinse the color out of my hair. And that conditioner is great.
I have found that using Pureology Hydrate is the best shampoo and conditioner I could possibly use. It's pretty pricey. But it was invaluable when my hair was long and blond and very, very dry. Now that my hair is short and red, I find it's not nearly as dry and I don't need really special shampoo and conditioner. So I totally think length and color has something to do with the quality of my hair, as well.
The directions on the color I use (and every color I have ever checked out) specifically say NOT to shampoo. It just feels so gross. I can't imagine not shampooing. But I'm weird that way.  |
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Post by sharlag on Nov 6, 2015 15:34:27 GMT
I HATE the smell of that conditioner. I always throw it away.
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Post by Montannie on Nov 6, 2015 15:36:46 GMT
I always thought my color product had a shampoo base -- I mean, it suds when you rinse it out. My hair is clean after I color.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 6, 2015 19:25:21 GMT
I agree that conditioner is way better than normal conditioner. My mom colors her hair, and gives me all the conditioners.
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Post by happymomma on Nov 6, 2015 19:31:44 GMT
I have long hair that is always a tangled mess after washing and conditioning. I use a product called "It's A Ten" after I take the towel off my head and it really helps with the tangles. I also use an old school pick instead of a brush. I never ever brush my hair, just use the pick. It has wide teeth that get the tangles out well after using the spray.
As to the hairdresser being a miracle-worker, yep! My SIL is my stylist and just perfects my hair when I go for an appointment. I asked he how she made it look so easy. She said that she does it so much that she's just gotten good at it. That stands to reason, if you do anything over and over and over again, day after day, you get good at it.
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Post by gottapeanow on Nov 6, 2015 19:34:58 GMT
I always shampoo mine after coloring as well. Always. And I can never manage to blow dry it as nicely as the stylist does. Ever. I have always blamed it on reaching around my head to try to maneuver the brush and blow dryer. So I just completely gave up. I blow dry my bangs, and sort of scrunch the sides with some product. With all that, I do think that the different products do make a difference. But some days, I wish I could just have someone style it for me. Lisa |
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Post by chlerbie on Nov 6, 2015 20:02:20 GMT
I love the conditioner, too. The kind I use comes with a tube to continue to use and I find it lasts quite awhile.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 6, 2015 21:20:32 GMT
The pros blow dry hundreds of heads a week. If you did that you would be as good at it as they are. My all time favorite shampoo and conditioner is White Rain. It is basically pure, does not build up and is $1 at the dollar store. I like the coconut one. Their conditioner is like a creme rinse and makes my hair tangle free. I've used it for thirty years. Give it a try. It only costs a buck.
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Post by rickmer on Nov 6, 2015 21:28:17 GMT
commenting on the blow-out.... it takes more patience and coordination than i have. you need three arms to use the big round brush, the blow dryer and manage the hair sections, i swear! i bought this product several years ago and LOVE IT. it combines the round brush with the heat. when i do my whole head (not just the frizzy bits on the side, like when i am in a hurry), it looks professionally done. met a friend for lunch recently who asked if i had just come from the hairstylist! the difference between in-styler and a flat iron is this thing seems to add body as it de-frizzes/straightens my hair vs just making my hair stick straight (which then makes my hair look thinner and less full). i use it on my hair while still slightly damp, but not soaking wet. two thumbs up!!! instyler |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 6, 2015 23:02:20 GMT
Coloring your hair flattens(? not sure the term I need) the hair cuticle. That's why it's usually really soft and shiny right after. If you lighten, it's the opposite and opens/roughs up the hair cuticle.
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Post by heartcat on Nov 7, 2015 14:52:13 GMT
I love the conditioner that comes with hair colouring kits too!
And it's not just right after colouring that it makes your hair so soft and manageable, it does the same when you use it later on as well.
As it happens, I just washed my hair and used some leftover from my last home dye job. I love how it softens and smooths my hair and also wish I could find a conditioner that was like it.
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Post by lisae on Nov 7, 2015 15:03:25 GMT
Oh, yes I love the conditioner that comes with the color. I find though that the tube lasts a long time for me as I have short hair. I use another conditioner most of the week and only use the one with the haircolor once a week and leave it in a few minutes. I have taken it on vacation though since its in a smaller container anyway and used it daily with just a small amount and rinsing quickly. That works for me so unfortunately I don't know the answer to your original question.
As far as not getting look of the salon, I think it is because our arms are in different places than the stylist. It's just physically impossible to approach your own head at the same angle they do.
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Post by oh yvonne on Nov 7, 2015 15:20:24 GMT
I know exactly what you guys mean about that super rich conditioner. It's ultra thick and leaves almost like a coating on the hair shaft. Usually those types of conditioners are the leave on kind meant for only occasional use but I love the way it makes my hair feel. I always had silky smooth hair, but now that I'm of a particular age <cough> and most of my hair is grey now the texture has changed and is wants to frizz..I hate it! So far I've found that same type of conditioner by John Freida the Frizz Ease line. I'm not home right now but I think it's this particular one that's it. I have the whole line in my shower and this is the thick, creamy one that's like the hair color conditioner.  I'll update later if this isn't it, but I'm pretty sure it is this one. I find its the only thing that works for me. I'm sure there are more especially at the beauty supply but this doesn't break the bank. |
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 7, 2015 15:40:51 GMT
I love that little tube of hair conditioner too (except for me it's a little too fragrant for every day use).
I use the John Frieda Brilliant Brunette line of hair products; color, shampoo and conditioner. I bought the big pump style S&C bottles and just re-fill them with regular size when empty. After coloring I use the provided conditioner then squeeze the rest into my big pump bottle. So it gets mixed in with the regular conditioner.
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Post by padresfan619 on Nov 8, 2015 1:24:35 GMT
As for your question about home blow outs...I got a tip from a hair stylist friend years ago that helps me a lot. Hold the barrel of the blow dryer instead of the handle. The blow dryer barrel will not get too hot to handle and you will have better control of the air flow. I like to dry my hair all over until it is damp dry and then I section it out to finish it off. I bought the same clips my hair stylist uses from Sally's. Also, hitting the finished product with a blast of cold air will help set the look.
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