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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 11, 2015 5:21:32 GMT
If you read this statement: would you think that the social club was going to cover the entire cost of entry to the park, or only part of the cost of entry to the park? I am a committee member of the social club at work, and we’ve sent out an email to all the social club members about an upcoming family event at a water park. I’m curious to know what other people would assume “subsidised” to mean in this case. The person who sent the email and I disagree about what people are going to expect in relation to entry fees. Oh, and yes I have spelled “subsidised” the Aust/NZ/UK way with an S instead of a Z!  |
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Post by myshelly on Nov 11, 2015 5:23:36 GMT
I wouldn't know what to think.
I would be annoyed by the horrible word choice. There are many ways to say exactly what you mean - why pick a way that no one knows what you mean?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 5:23:30 GMT
To me it would mean that a portion of the cost is being covered.
If it was the full cost, I believe it would say "is being provided" or "is compliments of"
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Post by mimima on Nov 11, 2015 5:29:11 GMT
Portion
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 5:31:48 GMT
I would think it means a portion, but I would find it an annoying and unclear word choice.
ETA: what I think is annoying and unclear is the lack of indication of how much is being paid. I have no idea what the total cost is, and I would think people would want to know what they are paying before committing to the activity. Let's say someone has a family of 5 and it's $20/person. Whether the subsidy is $2/person or $12/person could be the deciding factor about whether they can attend. Thus, the email as written would make it difficult for some to RSVP.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 11, 2015 5:32:01 GMT
Portion, so a discounted admission.
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 11, 2015 5:33:00 GMT
I would expect that some of the cost is covered and the members are to pay the remainder. Is there a reason why you wouldn't say exactly how much your club is contributing?
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Post by gryroagain on Nov 11, 2015 5:35:30 GMT
I would think a portion of the admission is covered so a discount. We have gone on girl scout, etc trips before where they use funds raised so it covers some, but not all, of the cost and it is worded that way.mid like to know the remainder due though, to plan.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Nov 11, 2015 5:37:35 GMT
A portion, but I too would like to know how much.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 11, 2015 5:41:01 GMT
I would not think everything was covered, otherwise, you'd just say it was free for the participants.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 11, 2015 5:48:26 GMT
Thanks you for the replies so far. I'm glad that people understand that it means "a portion of the entry fee". I was worried that people would assume the entire entry fee was being covered, especially because she didn’t mention how much they would have to pay. Is there a reason why you wouldn't say exactly how much your club is contributing? Just to clarify, I didn't write the email. I think that the reason the other person didn’t say how much the club is contributing is because she wants to see how many people are going first. I just wish she had run the email past the rest of the committee before sending it to all the members. I do the meeting minutes every month and they expect me to run the minutes past the committee members before sending them out, even though the minutes only go to the committee members! |
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Post by JoP on Nov 11, 2015 6:48:01 GMT
Portion
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 11, 2015 6:57:20 GMT
A portion. More info about the amount is needed for it to be meaningful.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Nov 11, 2015 7:12:00 GMT
A portion.
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Post by gotranch on Nov 11, 2015 7:13:57 GMT
Yes, the entire cost will be covered.
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Post by MsChiff on Nov 11, 2015 7:26:44 GMT
I would think the committee is going to pay a portion of the cost and I will have to pay the remainder.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 9:29:02 GMT
It would mean exactly what it says in the dictionary to me
sub·si·dize.
VERB
1.support (an organization or activity) financially:
2.pay part of the cost of producing (something) to reduce prices for the buyer:
But I think the e-mail to the members should have included either the amount or at least what % of the total charge would be subsidised. ie. The total charge would be xyz but the club will subsidise it by X amount or by X %.
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Post by scrapalotomous on Nov 11, 2015 9:29:19 GMT
Sorry Meg. To me it would mean you are paying the whole lot.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 11, 2015 9:39:50 GMT
A part only is being covered- it makes it cheaper, but not free. *Waves legal degree certificates* and *makes blanket statement that commercial laws, worldwide, are very similar in origin and application*  |
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Post by lesley on Nov 11, 2015 9:43:43 GMT
I don't think it's unclear at all. You're going to pay part of the cost, and I will be expected to pay the remainder. And I understand why the amount of the subsidy hasn't been specified, if it is dependent on the amount of people going.
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Post by Why on Nov 11, 2015 9:51:18 GMT
Sorry Meg. To me it would mean you are paying the whole lot. ..............................  |
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Post by wellway on Nov 11, 2015 9:54:36 GMT
Yes, it means a portion. But someone (maybe more) will misread and get upset when they have to pay.
When she know the numbers she should follow up with a note saying what the entry charge will be so people can be prepared.
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Post by cakediva on Nov 11, 2015 11:49:39 GMT
To me it means that we won't be paying the full park entry fee - that we get a less expensive rate because the club is paying part of the fee.
As in "subsidised housing" or "subsidised daycare" - people pay smaller fees because of a government subsidy.
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Post by purplebee on Nov 11, 2015 11:58:58 GMT
I would also think a part of the entry fee and ride cost would be paid. However, it is a bit unclear and I can also understand why some would think all. "A portion of your entry fee and ride cost will be paid by the club, we will let you know how much after we get a head count" would have been a better choice. Hope everyone has a fun day at the park!
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Post by littlemama on Nov 11, 2015 12:15:04 GMT
I know what subsidized means, so I would assume a portion was being paid. Someone who doesn't know exactly what subsidized means would assume the whole cost, since no participant cost is listed.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 11, 2015 12:14:44 GMT
I would think it means a portion but i might not be able to answer unless I knew how much, depending on the cost altogether.that email will just generate confusion and lots of questions. Wether people bother to ask the questions or just blow it off cause they don't know or assume a clarification is coming I can't say. I think since the email is not clear that most people won't answer and would consider the email a heads up or save the date kind of thing and they will be awaiting further details to come automatically.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Nov 11, 2015 12:30:03 GMT
To me it would mean that a portion of the cost is being covered. If it was the full cost, I believe it would say "is being provided" or "is compliments of" But why not just say exactly how much so people can budget. |
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 11, 2015 12:44:48 GMT
The irony is the person who worded it did so to find out how many people are coming before the club decides how much they can afford to cover --- while the recipients may delay answering because they won't commit to going until they know how much they will personally have to pay. As evidenced by this very thread, people interpret that wording different ways. Look at the number of people here who are incorrectly assuming now that the club is paying their whole way. "A portion of your entry fee and ride cost will be paid by the club, we will let you know how much after we get a head count" would have been a better choice. This would have been a MUCH better choice. |
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Post by tduby1 on Nov 11, 2015 12:51:59 GMT
I think it would have been clearer if she had said, "a portion of the entry fee will be subsidized." and maybe even noted the amount would be dependent on the number of participants but would be less than $XX (actual cost). Then if I received the letter I would look at the actual cost, figure out if I could budget it at full cost and then the subsidized portion would be a bonus. I really don't see any other way people could commit without having an idea of cost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 13:21:49 GMT
it is a partial payment but I know from experience a LOT of people assume it means it will be fully paid.
If the amount being discounted is based on head count she may find she gets a small initial head count then suddenly has an influx as word gets around about how much is being discounted.
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