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Post by jackie on Nov 15, 2015 4:32:41 GMT
So, what did you think of this episode? The green team again dominated. They didn't make any mistakes and really just ran a perfect leg. Yes, he is still obnoxious, although not as much so on this leg, but I continue to love his heart and enthusiasm. It was funny to hear the Texans talk about how you can never be prepared for what the race is actually like...unless you're Justin. That made me chuckle. The mining challenge looked tough but definitely looked like the challenge to do. Although I think the cheerleaders would have really struggled with it. Although they struggled with the piano challenge too. I think they felt because they're perky and cute, people were going to line up to help them. They found that's not the way it is. When the one cheerleader said she was going to earn money because she was going to give a KISS ON THE CHEEK and "who wouldn't pay for that??" I had to roll my eyes a bit. I think Logan and her man are my least favorite team still. I thought it was odd that they decided to lie and tell the Texans that the mining challenge was easy (although it ended up really not being that difficult for them). Why lie about how easy/hard a challenge once the team is already there? That's not going to give you any kind of advantage and it will build mistrust. She was also obnoxious at the table-waiting task. She insisted that because she had waited tables she should do it. Then when her partner struggled, she told the guy next to her (one of the Texans I think) about how she wanted to do this challenge and should have. Logan, I really think you wouldn't have been any better at identifying the food (the hard part of this challenge) than he was. In fact, you probably would have been worse at it. He at least knew some of the foods from his Jewish grandmother. And she definitely would have struggled more with holding onto the tray, like the cheerleader did (thought it made me nuts that she refused to correct how she was carrying it and put a hand under the tray--I think that would have helped). The one Texan refusing to go ahead of the cheerleader was a nice move I suppose, but no way would I have done that. Yes, she agreed to work with him but not because she wanted to be super nice and help him but because she was struggling too. When you have so few teams AND you're at the back, working together is about the dumbest idea ever. Luckily they got saved this week through the non-elimination leg (which I wondered if they were even doing anymore). I'm sure many will laud their game play that leg, but I won't be one of them.  Oh, and I was impressed with the newscasters this leg. They may be the dark horses. We don't talk about them as much. They're just running a very nice, clean game and staying under the radar. They really did great at the piano challenge--both of them. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 15, 2015 4:42:57 GMT
The newscasters... I was like - who the heck are they?!
But yes, you summed it up perfectly. I can't believe that all the musical people got done so quickly, normally the people that choose those challenges end up begging all night.
The Texans need to wake up and use some common sense. I'm pretty certain it was illegal for a taxi to actually stop on the part of the road where they were standing.
And I actually got irritated with cheerleaders for not using what they got earlier. Seriously, they have enthusiasm, are cute, why were they barking at people to give them money instead of just performing for it.
I was sort of hoping Logan and her guy would fall flat on their face. They made that salt mine challenge twice as difficult as it need be. Sheesh.
I did like the stop at Schindler's factory. I would have been an emotional wreck after that.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 15, 2015 5:12:04 GMT
I was hoping the cheerleaders would be out.
Their attitude really pissed me off. They are in a country that isn't wealthy and they are asking for money, seriously but everyone is "mean" because they didn't give them the money fast enough for their liking? Then when she practically accosted that guy when he said he didn't have any money and so she was yelling at him "so how did you buy that if you don't have money?" Just rude and disrespectful. That and the constant whimpering during the food task made me really dislike them.
Working with someone when you are in the middle of the pack to stay ahead of others can make sense, it makes no difference if you are the 4th and 5th teams if there are still 3 other teams behind you. However when you are the final two teams, that's just stupid game play, you can't both step on the mat at the same time.
I thought of something when they were showing the green team so far ahead of everyone else, for much of the race they have been ahead and the only ones on a train or plane, while the other teams are usually travelling together. That means the other teams will get to socialise more and get to know each other, while the green team don't. Makes it more likely that it will make them a target for u-turns etc.
I don't actually think Justin is that arrogant, I think he's just confident and he has good reason to be. He's studied previous seasons and for the most part they have made really smart decisions and picked tasks that they know they can do well in.
I don't think it's particularly arrogant to say you are good at something and that you are ahead of everyone else...when you actually are.
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 15, 2015 5:31:18 GMT
I was surprised the Green team were the only ones to find the flight that put them at least an hour ahead. I agree Justin really had studied the game.
Oh and what the heck diving into the swimming pool with your shoes on? I can see everything else but shoes!?!?! Yucky, squidgy feet!
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Post by pjaye on Nov 15, 2015 5:39:55 GMT
Oh and what the heck diving into the swimming pool with your shoes on? I can see everything else but shoes!?!?! Yucky, squidgy feet! Yes I forgot about that! I was thinking that a minute or two to take off some clothes and get dressed again after isn't going to make that much difference. Poland is a cold country, spending the rest of the day in damp clothes and shoes wouldn't be very comfortable. Also what taxi driver wants some sopping wet person sitting in their car? Made me wonder if that's why some of them couldn't get a cab. I know the green team were ahead, but he even got changed into his swimming trunks. |
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Nov 15, 2015 14:27:40 GMT
I was surprised the Green team were the only ones to find the flight that put them at least an hour ahead. I agree Justin really had studied the game. Oh and what the heck diving into the swimming pool with your shoes on? I can see everything else but shoes!?!?! Yucky, squidgy feet! It showed another team finding that flight and there wasn't enough seats available for them on it. I think it was the newscasters. |
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Post by jackie on Nov 15, 2015 15:55:43 GMT
Yes! Omg, that was annoying. If I was that guy, I think I would have to say something pretty rude to her. How dare her question him saying whether he has any money. And that was why they stunk at getting money. Other teams were charming and upbeat. The cheerleaders badgered, harassed, and whined.
I forgot about that but commented on that when I was watching the show as well! That was crazy! I would have definitely taken my shoes and socks off and probably stripped down to undies too. No way would I be slogging around all day in wet shoes. Clothes are one thing--they could dry relatively fast, but the shoes, yuk! Justin did happen to have his trunks on under his clothes, but regardless, he was the only smart one. You think they would all wear their suits under their clothes at all time or at least where underclothes that they wouldn't mind doubling as swimsuits in a pinch.
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Post by birukitty on Nov 15, 2015 22:27:36 GMT
So happy you started this thread Jackie. Yep, totally agree with you all-the cheerleader girl who was performing the challenge of the begging while the other one was playing the piano was not only annoying to watch, but went about it completely in the wrong manner. The best way to do it would have been to act upbeat, happy and perform (something-dance around) in order to encourage people to drop some money into the hat or whatever they were holding out to collect money in. Instead she was the only one to go around whining, "Can you please, please give us some money?" in that begging voice of hers acting all sad and discouraged. A lot of folks in Poland are poor, and they probably had no idea what was going on-so confronted with that it's no wonder they weren't encouraged to part with their hard earned money. And for her to question that guy like that? The inappropriateness of that! I do not like the cheerleaders for several reasons and this just cemented my feelings. Oh, and then her constant whining at the tray carrying task. My arms, my arms, whine, whine, whine. Oh my gosh! I did say STFU at the TV a few times, I must admit. I waitressed for many years through high school and college, yes it's hard work. Maybe she's just used to being pretty and jumping up and down  I also agree it was stupid for the Texas boys to agree to work with the cheerleaders on that challenge-my gosh they were both in the back-what sense did that make? They could have out run those girls and then they would have been last and stuck with the speed bump next week. What has happened to the Texas boys? They used to be a strong team, but the last two weeks they are in the back and have really sunk down to being a very slow team. I still like the reporters (newscasters) just like I said last week and I hope they win. I do not want the green team to win and I still do not like Jason. Yes, he and his partner are great players, but his arrogance, and the way he treats his partner bothers me very much. The reporters are also a great team and they treat each other with respect. Still can't stand Logan and Chris and her stomping her feet when Chris insisted on doing the waiter challenge was ridiculous. Him having a Jewish grandfather (I think he said grandfather) just made it a more logical choice that he be the once to do the challenge. The stop at the Schindler museum was amazing and I would have loved to go there. I have relatives that live in Krakow-a cousin and some aunts, the aunts are elderly that used to live in Germany before WW2, which was then turned into Poland after the borders changed after the war into Poland and I think they moved afterward too. I hope to visit these relatives one day and when I do I will visit this museum now that I know it is there. My mother goes often and sometimes my father goes with her. Hopefully next year. They've both also visited Auschwitz which is somewhat nearby and I've expressed a wish to see that too-it's something I feel one must do if you are ever in that area. Anyway, back to the topic-the race is going to India next week. I kind of wish they wouldn't. They seem to go there every season and I hate seeing the poverty there. Part of me wants them to go other places. I imagine it's very cheap for them to take the race there so maybe that's why they do it vs. an expensive country. How do you all feel? Debbie in MD. |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 16, 2015 19:10:42 GMT
The green team again dominated. They didn't make any mistakes and really just ran a perfect leg. I'll have to respectfully disagree with the "dominated". They were given a huge gift getting that first flight and knew when they were the only ones on it that everyone else was at least 1 hr 20 min behind them. Kelsey & Joey started the leg 13 minutes after them, tried to book the same flight and were told there were not enough seats available (I'm assuming they need 4 with their camera crew). The last team started more than 2 hours later and were still able to get on the second flight. I'm curious to see what the start times are next week and if the green team has more than a 1 hour 20 min lead. If they do, they finished the detours/roadblocks in Poland ahead of the other teams. If they have less than that, then other teams were able to complete the tasks from arrival to pit stop faster. Someone commented upthread about how cold it is in Poland, but the race was filmed in the summer when Europe was experiencing a pretty intense heat wave and even Poland had 90+F (32C) temps. The race days in France and The Netherlands were brutally hot. Justin already had his swim trunks on - he was wearing them when they boarded the plane - but at least stripped off his tshirt/socks/shoes. I think all the other teams got caught in the frenzy of trying to get some sort of lead, jumping in with their shoes on. Seriously, it takes a second to kick them off! Logan actually made me laugh out loud when she waited half a second for Chris to take off his clothes before jumping into the pool. I really don't think she can help herself, needing to do everything. I liked the challenges and would never have thought the music would be easier than the salt mine, but I think it was. Both the reporters and mom/son did great and the cheerleaders were obnoxious. Loved the Schindler's factory stop. All the teams seemed to slow down and take in what they were looking at and switch off the game mode for a few minutes. I really, really, really hope the reporters move into first place next week and stay there for the rest of the race. |
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Post by disneypal on Nov 16, 2015 20:07:16 GMT
Weird question.....why did they have to carry that log down the tunnel in the salt mine (when they first got down there)? They carried it down , laid it down and never used it - was that log suppose to serve some kind if purpose?
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Post by gale w on Nov 16, 2015 20:39:03 GMT
I hate when they have tasks that require them to collect money from passers-by.
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Post by quiltz on Nov 16, 2015 21:02:59 GMT
Anyway, back to the topic-the race is going to India next week. I kind of wish they wouldn't. They seem to go there every season and I hate seeing the poverty there. Part of me wants them to go other places. I imagine it's very cheap for them to take the race there so maybe that's why they do it vs. an expensive country. How do you all feel? Debbie in MD. I am glad that they go to India and other countries were the poverty is high. If it makes you a bit uncomfortable, perhaps this is a nudge for you to truly appreciate everything that you have available to you in North America. It is also good to see these countries so that it may give us (general "us") a better insight as to where some of our immigrants come from and what they have had to overcome. |
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Post by Leone on Nov 16, 2015 22:49:48 GMT
Was a team eliminated?
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Post by gale w on Nov 16, 2015 22:54:57 GMT
No, it was a non elimination leg. The texas boys were in last place (because they let the girls go in front of them). |
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Post by duchess on Nov 16, 2015 22:57:37 GMT
Weird question.....why did they have to carry that log down the tunnel in the salt mine (when they first got down there)? They carried it down , laid it down and never used it - was that log suppose to serve some kind if purpose? I think they said something at first is they use those logs to hold up the tunnels. I just assumed it was a log they would eventually need as they dig. |
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Post by birukitty on Nov 16, 2015 23:40:27 GMT
Anyway, back to the topic-the race is going to India next week. I kind of wish they wouldn't. They seem to go there every season and I hate seeing the poverty there. Part of me wants them to go other places. I imagine it's very cheap for them to take the race there so maybe that's why they do it vs. an expensive country. How do you all feel? Debbie in MD. I am glad that they go to India and other countries were the poverty is high. If it makes you a bit uncomfortable, perhaps this is a nudge for you to truly appreciate everything that you have available to you in North America. It is also good to see these countries so that it may give us (general "us") a better insight as to where some of our immigrants come from and what they have had to overcome. Of course it makes me truly appreciate how blessed I am to live in the USA. What I wish is that they wouldn't always go to India, but choose other countries that are as poor so we could see some different countries besides always seeing India. I don't mind being educated by T.V.-I'm the one who watches everything no matter how uncomfortable it is (holocaust etc.) because I believe education is vital. They've been to India over and over. I'd love to see some other countries that have a high poverty rate, that'd be cheap for them to film in, but would expose us to the beauty and culture of different countries. Does that make sense? I realize now that this is different from my original question, but this is how I feel now given some more thought and your answer. Debbie in MD. |
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Post by quiltz on Nov 16, 2015 23:47:54 GMT
birukitty, I believe that the producers are restricted on where they can go due to visa issues. They require the passport number of the contestants to be able to get travel visa's. This might be one of the many issues in choosing what country that they are able to travel to.
I am not aware of the behind the scenes at AR, however there is also the issue of having the proper vaccinations to enter some countries and this might spoil the surprise factor for the contestants.
There could also be the cost of filming in some countries. There may be a "tax" to be paid to the country for AR to film there. Perhaps some countries do not want AR to film in their country. So many variables.
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Post by grammanisi on Nov 17, 2015 0:58:52 GMT
Their attitude really pissed me off. They are in a country that isn't wealthy and they are asking for money, seriously but everyone is "mean" because they didn't give them the money fast enough for their liking? Then when she practically accosted that guy when he said he didn't have any money and so she was yelling at him "so how did you buy that if you don't have money?" Just rude and disrespectful. And she called him a liar. I was ready for them to go at that point. |
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Post by jackie on Nov 17, 2015 2:12:58 GMT
Several have mentioned people being poor in Poland, making the cheerleaders aggressive begging for money all the more unpleasant. Do you remember when they used to take all the money and possessions away from the last place team on a non-elimination round. I HATED that and was so glad they stopped. It was particularly difficult to watch when they were in poor countries (and I mean REALLY poor countries) on those legs. It was embarrassing to watch these Americans begging for money from these poor people so they could participate in a game. Yuck! I think the speed bump idea is so much better!
I agree with you Debbie about the Schindler museum. That would be amazing to see. I think I would have broke down. I can remember in season 6 they visited a slave house and it had a doorway that was called The Door of No Return or something like that. Slaves left there on ships and never came back. One of the racers, who was African American, lost it there and I totally got it.
Also, the point about the green team being the only team to make the first flight, at no fault of the other teams, is a good point. They were solid at that point. They still made no mistakes and ran an excellent leg, but you're right, that gave them a huge advantage.
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 17, 2015 2:34:09 GMT
No, it was a non elimination leg. The texas boys were in last place (because they let the girls go in front of them). I hope they get some common sense and don't get sucked into helping the cheerleaders all the way through the leg, but with a speedbump it could work in their favor to push them on ahead. I am glad that they go to India and other countries were the poverty is high. If it makes you a bit uncomfortable, perhaps this is a nudge for you to truly appreciate everything that you have available to you in North America. It is also good to see these countries so that it may give us (general "us") a better insight as to where some of our immigrants come from and what they have had to overcome. Of course it makes me truly appreciate how blessed I am to live in the USA. What I wish is that they wouldn't always go to India, but choose other countries that are as poor so we could see some different countries besides always seeing India. I don't mind being educated by T.V.-I'm the one who watches everything no matter how uncomfortable it is (holocaust etc.) because I believe education is vital. They've been to India over and over. I'd love to see some other countries that have a high poverty rate, that'd be cheap for them to film in, but would expose us to the beauty and culture of different countries. Does that make sense? I realize now that this is different from my original question, but this is how I feel now given some more thought and your answer. Debbie in MD. I think they are limited where they can go. I'm sure there is a lot of countries crossed off by insurance and the US Government. India is big and a UK Commonwealth country so generally is safe and easy with regards to travel. Their attitude really pissed me off. They are in a country that isn't wealthy and they are asking for money, seriously but everyone is "mean" because they didn't give them the money fast enough for their liking? Then when she practically accosted that guy when he said he didn't have any money and so she was yelling at him "so how did you buy that if you don't have money?" Just rude and disrespectful. And she called him a liar. I was ready for them to go at that point. I was ready for someone to hold my earrings. Several have mentioned people being poor in Poland, making the cheerleaders aggressive begging for money all the more unpleasant. Do you remember when they used to take all the money and possessions away from the last place team on a non-elimination round. I HATED that and was so glad they stopped. It was particularly difficult to watch when they were in poor countries (and I mean REALLY poor countries) on those legs. It was embarrassing to watch these Americans begging for money from these poor people so they could participate in a game. Yuck! I think the speed bump idea is so much better! I agree with you Debbie about the Schindler museum. That would be amazing to see. I think I would have broke down. I can remember in season 6 they visited a slave house and it had a doorway that was called The Door of No Return or something like that. Slaves left there on ships and never came back. One of the racers, who was African American, lost it there and I totally got it. Also, the point about the green team being the only team to make the first flight, at no fault of the other teams, is a good point. They were solid at that point. They still made no mistakes and ran an excellent leg, but you're right, that gave them a huge advantage. FWIW The next season started filming yesterday. I follow Phil on Twitter and he was live tweeting it. I also wonder if when the leg started if there were enough seats for more than one team? Or do we think AR blocks so many seats? |
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Post by pjaye on Nov 17, 2015 2:43:17 GMT
Or do we think AR blocks so many seats? I think they deliberately block out seats to make sure only the number of teams they want get on the most direct flights. Otherwise from a viewer perspective it wouldn't be much fun if they all made it onto the same flight/train etc every time. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 17, 2015 2:51:06 GMT
Or do we think AR blocks so many seats? I think they deliberately block out seats to make sure only the number of teams they want get on the most direct flights. Otherwise from a viewer perspective it wouldn't be much fun if they all made it onto the same flight/train etc every time. I think they do it sometimes. I wonder if they did it this flight. |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 17, 2015 3:01:00 GMT
I think they deliberately block out seats to make sure only the number of teams they want get on the most direct flights. Otherwise from a viewer perspective it wouldn't be much fun if they all made it onto the same flight/train etc every time. I think they do it sometimes. I wonder if they did it this flight. They have said the first 3 (4, 2, whatever) teams will be on flight 1, the rest on flight 2 before but they didn't say that this time. I sure hope they didn't block space for only one team?! Especially when the 2nd & 3rd teams to start the leg were just minutes after them. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 17, 2015 3:06:26 GMT
I think they do it sometimes. I wonder if they did it this flight. They have said the first 3 (4, 2, whatever) teams will be on flight 1, the rest on flight 2 before but they didn't say that this time. I sure hope they didn't block space for only one team?! Especially when the 2nd & 3rd teams to start the leg were just minutes after them. any other race and it would have been interesting to see which team would get it. This race you just knew from previous travel if they could get their early they would. |
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Post by pjaye on Nov 17, 2015 3:16:55 GMT
I sure hope they didn't block space for only one team?! Especially when the 2nd & 3rd teams to start the leg were just minutes after them I absolutely think they would...it's a TV show, they need to make it interesting/exciting for viewers. They aren't there to be "fair". It's reality TV, while it's not 'rigged' they do very carefully plan & manage what will happen on every leg. If they want one team to dominate, then they will set it up so that only one team will ever be on the first mode of transport. If they want 2 or 3 teams close together in the top, then they will have 2 or 3 seats available. It's highly managed, they control what they can, they don't leave it up chance. |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 17, 2015 4:02:39 GMT
I sure hope they didn't block space for only one team?! Especially when the 2nd & 3rd teams to start the leg were just minutes after them I absolutely think they would...it's a TV show, they need to make it interesting/exciting for viewers. They aren't there to be "fair". It's reality TV, while it's not 'rigged' they do very carefully plan & manage what will happen on every leg. If they want one team to dominate, then they will set it up so that only one team will ever be on the first mode of transport. If they want 2 or 3 teams close together in the top, then they will have 2 or 3 seats available. It's highly managed, they control what they can, they don't leave it up chance. I get what you are saying, but just having one team on that first flight didn't make it interesting or exciting for viewers. There was no tension or or question of who would come in first. It was boring and felt fixed. In past seasons, teams on the second plane have moved ahead of teams on the first flight because of the challenges within the leg (car troubles, driving 50 miles in the wrong direction, taxi breaks down, switching detours, etc.). For this leg, the detours/roadblock were all easy to find and seemed to be close to each other. It didn't seem to be a long, hard day of challenges and travel between them.The only tension was over how quickly the tasks were finished, not getting to and from a task. I can't think of another season where there was only one set of seats available on the first flight, but it is also a little odd that enough seats were available on the second flight  . |
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Post by pjaye on Nov 17, 2015 4:14:30 GMT
I get what you are saying, but just having one team on that first flight didn't make it interesting or exciting for viewers. There was no tension or or question of who would come in first. It was boring and felt fixed. Well to a degree it is fixed. Lots of things could have happened, the first team might not have found that flight using the app, opening it up for another team to find it. They could have got lost, or their car break down or lots of traffic and missed the flight, then a later team might have been able to use it. There's all sorts of possibilities as to how it could play out...the fixed aspect is that whoever finds it first, is the only team on that flight, but it doesn't always mean that the team in first place will be the team that gets on the first flight. Look at the Texas boys in Paris, they got to the airport fast and could have got on the earlier flight, but they didn't look for one. |
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Post by Leone on Nov 17, 2015 17:18:40 GMT
I just watched the episode. The Texan was an idiot to let the cheerleaders go first...he doesn't want to win. Green team is definitely good but I'd love to see them lose.
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Post by melanell on Nov 17, 2015 17:46:12 GMT
Oh and what the heck diving into the swimming pool with your shoes on? I can see everything else but shoes!?!?! Yucky, squidgy feet! I know! I kept thinking that the time they gained by not messing with their shoes they could lose trying to walk and run in wet sneakers until their next chance to change them. |
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Post by RiverIsis on Nov 17, 2015 18:26:18 GMT
I get what you are saying, but just having one team on that first flight didn't make it interesting or exciting for viewers. There was no tension or or question of who would come in first. It was boring and felt fixed. Well to a degree it is fixed. Lots of things could have happened, the first team might not have found that flight using the app, opening it up for another team to find it. They could have got lost, or their car break down or lots of traffic and missed the flight, then a later team might have been able to use it. There's all sorts of possibilities as to how it could play out...the fixed aspect is that whoever finds it first, is the only team on that flight, but it doesn't always mean that the team in first place will be the team that gets on the first flight. Look at the Texas boys in Paris, they got to the airport fast and could have got on the earlier flight, but they didn't look for one. And how many times have we seen the team on the first plane be the last to arrive because of delays and mechanical problems. It's always a risk not to be with the pack. |
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