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Post by farmdpea on Dec 6, 2015 13:41:38 GMT
This thread is making me cry! Me, too. My family knows that I don't want a traditional burial, but I really need to write down the specifics of what I want.
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Post by brandy327 on Dec 6, 2015 13:56:41 GMT
My dh knows my wishes. Cremation and then I don't care. He knows that I'd MUCH prefer no services at a funeral home, but a party somewhere fun. But I also realize that services are for the living and I'm not going to be around, so I don't really care what they do. This is pretty much where I'm at, too. I haven't given it a lot of thought, but I admit that when I have thought about it, I have had the thought/worry that no one will come to any kind of service and it'll seem pathetic. I haven't had much conversation around this topic with my parents but I know I need to do this. I want to specifically know what they want so that I can make appropriate plans when the time comes (or even before). It's a really sucky conversation to have but a really important one. We were fortunate (gosh that doesn't seem like the right word) enough that when my dad was diagnosed with cancer, we were able to ask him what he wanted. And then once my dad passed, my mom made her wishes known. Our family has a family plot at the local cemetery that my great grandfather had purchased years and years ago. When my dad died, we got one of the plots and my mom purchased the headstone with my dad's name and her name on it. And she paid for her funeral expenses already. My MIL did the same as well when FIL passed away in Feb of this year.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2015 14:19:41 GMT
I think about it very little as I figure my funeral is really none of my business. That. Where to go? I can go in with my dad's ashes in our beautiful old family plot near where family still lives. I can go in with my husband at his grave in a National Cemetery away from where my children live. I can use the lot bought for him as a child near his mother's grave in the middle of the country where no one lives. It doesn't really matter to me now. I want my kids to do what they need to do. My family traditionally has a viewing and then a funeral followed by a graveside service and a large fellowship with aN abundance of food. There are prayers and such but nothing overly religious. Jokes are told. People laugh and cry and hug and take a lot of photos so that it becomes a much needed family reunion. My MIL HATED all that, so she was whisked away right after she died to be cremated, and then we had to wait to hear while her kids had decided when they would have a graveside service. It was summer vacation time and they took a couple of weeks before they let us know, so I had to wait around before leaving or risk missing it. The whole thing was most unsettling. My son missed it and hasn't really forgiven himself for not coming to a family gathering we were only told about after the short service at graveside. He lives 12 hours away and wasn't well and couldn't leave work to come that far just to wait for whatever. Something I hope all you "I hate funeral fuss" will consider. You may very well be leaving family and friends behind that are left without a way to vent their grief.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2015 14:24:34 GMT
I have advanced cancer. I've paid for and completely planned my funeral. Cemetery plot, headstone etc are all chosen. It's going to be hard enough, the last thing I want my loved ones dealing with is the funeral arrangements. However I have left instructions that if there's something important to them that I've overlooked to please add it; a reading, a song whatever. I spoke with the people who mean the most to me and got their input. It's my belief that a funeral is for the living, a way to come to terms with their loved one's passing. So I've incorporated a lot of what they've said. (Some of them knew what I was doing while others just thought we were having a general discussion.) I've written a little something to be read so that my family and friends will know how much they meant to me, how thankful I am to have had them in my life. I've made arrangements through my attorney for the one year anniversary, whenever that may be. I've left instructions for a huge party for all my family and friends so that they come together and celebrate life. The attorney will send invitations and I've paid for everything. I want them to re-live all our good memories and have a blast to celebrate life. And then I want them to move on and live their life. Some of my family and my closest friend know about my plan though they don't know all the details. Kat Bless you for this beautiful act of love and compassion. May it be,a long time before it goes into effect.
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Post by Nink on Dec 6, 2015 14:29:36 GMT
I want as little money spent as humanly possible. I want to be cremated and then have my ashes scattered at one of the waterfalls along the McKenzie river up in Oregon. If the Oregon Duck mascot was to show up, that'd be awesome, but beyond that I don't want a big fuss made.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2015 14:30:24 GMT
Hubby and I have talked and we have also let the girls know. Me, no service at all. Cremation and sprinkled in with magnolia tree. If the girls want each one will get a tree and can sprinkle me when they plant it. This way they can visit and talk anytime they want. Hubby wants the whole LEO thing, but will be cremated. I told him that's fine, but I will not be OK with the final call. I will be a mess and that will push me over. My husband was volunteer EMT/First Responder/Fireman and the guys and trucks were at his service along with an entire boy scout troop. There wasn't a dry eye anywhere after Last Call.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 6, 2015 15:23:59 GMT
I'm firmly in the funeral/service/party are for the living. I do want to caution those of you who are adamant about "nothing", it might be kinder to emphasize that your loved ones shouldn't hold any funeral or service for YOU. My FIL was extremely vocal that he did not want ANYTHING - no funeral, no obituary, no one gathering "to cry over him." My MIL adhered to his wishes to the point of encouraging my son to go to his baseball game the day his grandfather died. I'll be honest. It was really unhealthy. My kids were sad. It's okay to be sad when someone you love dies. We ended up doing a few things as a family to acknowledge my FIL and celebrate the happy memories we had with him. And yes while there were some tears, there was also a lot of laughter. It helped all of us - but particularly my kids - process their grief.
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Post by raindancer on Dec 6, 2015 15:53:37 GMT
I have been beyond clear I want my organs donated and my body donated to science and beyond that cremated. I don't care if people want to gather to remember me for closure for themselves. I plan on leaving my kids a solid chunk of cash to do with what they will. I have planned my retirement since my 20s and even if I live to be 100 there should be plenty left for them. If they want to plan some funeral they can, but I have no desire for them to do so. I don't need or want a headstone or anything else either.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Dec 6, 2015 15:57:21 GMT
So long as there is no religious, and especially no catholic input, I don't much care. A friend of mine does Humanist services. I might give her the job.
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Post by gillyp on Dec 6, 2015 17:02:21 GMT
Something I hope all you "I hate funeral fuss" will consider. You may very well be leaving family and friends behind that are left without a way to vent their grief. I know the fact that I don't want a funeral or service of any description would deeply upset my siblings who are all a lot older than me and all have a faith, which I do not. So if I was not the last to go, their wishes would need to be considered. My children are fine that any usable organs will be taken for transplant and the rest can go to medical science. Anything left would be cremated and either buried under a tree or put in a sky rocket firework and sent into space. If they wanted a little celebration of my life they could have more fireworks to go along with it. I realise that my wishes are a little at odds with my interest in genealogy and 'finding' dead people but I'm ok with that. Although I am pleased to find headstones and to know what became of people I don't think it's necessary to have a monument to remember someone.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 6, 2015 17:31:54 GMT
I have given zero thought to my funeral other than my kids & DH know I want to be cremated (ETA after any usable parts are donated).
When my mom went into a care home (dementia), we were required to make arrangements for her dispostion so I helped my dad pick a mortuary and he has prepaid the basics for both their cremations. Anything else we choose to do servicewise is up to us.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 6, 2015 17:47:01 GMT
I haven't decided. I either want to be cremated or my remains to be donated to science.
I used to want any viable body part donated to people in need, but I don't see that as an option any more. Having fibromyalgia, I have learned I cannot donate blood, so I really doubt anyone would be anxious to receive one of my tainted organs. That's why I'm leaning toward science.
Does anyone know what happens to a donated body when it is no longer of any benefit? If at all possible, it would be nice to have scientists or student doctors gain what they could from my remains and then have whatever is left cremated and returned to family members.
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Post by Gennifer on Dec 6, 2015 17:56:40 GMT
I told my younger brother that when I die, I want all of my 7 siblings to sing "For Good" from the musical Wicked. For those that aren't familiar with the song, it talks about how a person's life was changed by meeting someone, not necessarily for the better, but for good. As an atheist, I feel like the only life after death is the permanent influence I leave on others, so it's appropriate for me. He told me they'd sing "No One Mourns the Wicked" instead. (Also from Wicked.) Punk. For for the other stuff, DH know I want to be an organ donor and cremated, and I trust him to make any other decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 17:57:41 GMT
I haven't decided. I either want to be cremated or my remains to be donated to science. I used to want any viable body part donated to people in need, but I don't see that as an option any more. Having fibromyalgia, I have learned I cannot donate blood, so I really doubt anyone would be anxious to receive one of my tainted organs. That's why I'm leaning toward science. Does anyone know what happens to a donated body when it is no longer of any benefit? If at all possible, it would be nice to have scientists or student doctors gain what they could from my remains and then have whatever is left cremated and returned to family members. I'm sure the answer depends on which organiztion you leave your body with. But for starters: www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=donating%20a%20body%20to%20science%20after%20death
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 6, 2015 18:06:27 GMT
I want to donate my body to science, but I'm not sure if they'd take it. I'm already in a research study to find out what causes my most serious disease. A small part of my stomach was removed for science. My only rule is that I will not be cremated unless it's what needs to be done after body donation. Judaism doesn't allow cremation. As for a memorial, I want my family to do whatever would be healing for them. Aside, from the necessary stuff, wills, trusts, etc. I refuse to think about death, because I'm fighting everyday to have a longer life and that is my priority.
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Post by jenjie on Dec 6, 2015 18:48:48 GMT
This is pretty much where I'm at, too. I haven't given it a lot of thought, but I admit that when I have thought about it, I have had the thought/worry that no one will come to any kind of service and it'll seem pathetic. I haven't had much conversation around this topic with my parents but I know I need to do this. I want to specifically know what they want so that I can make appropriate plans when the time comes (or even before). It's a really sucky conversation to have but a really important one. We were fortunate (gosh that doesn't seem like the right word) enough that when my dad was diagnosed with cancer, we were able to ask him what he wanted. And then once my dad passed, my mom made her wishes known. Our family has a family plot at the local cemetery that my great grandfather had purchased years and years ago. When my dad died, we got one of the plots and my mom purchased the headstone with my dad's name and her name on it. And she paid for her funeral expenses already. My MIL did the same as well when FIL passed away in Feb of this year. Off topic but I still need to make that decision. I don't know if I want a joint headstone. It seems like a sweet thing. But now that this decision is mine to make I just don't know. For one thing I don't particularly want to see my name on it now.
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Post by jenjie on Dec 6, 2015 19:00:23 GMT
I want my send off to be the way I live. I want the Word of God preached with power and enthusiasm. I want it stated in some way that I have passed from death to LIFE because of Jesus. I want worship music.
I would like different scriptures that have impacted me posted around the room with an explanation of what it has meant to me. My FB pea friends will know what I mean.
I would like the people who have impacted my life to know that they made a difference. I want everyone who comes to know they have great value.
I would say I'd like each person to walk away with a complimentary copy of my book. Except I don't know if I want to write a book. So that is TBD. But if I do someday I might as well shoot for the stars, right?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 19:30:43 GMT
ETA: I was trying to condense a post to the last sentence but screwed up somewhere. It said "Something I hope all you "I hate funeral fuss" will consider. You may very well be leaving family and friends behind that are left without a way to vent their grief." What if one of your nearest and dearest friends died and you attended her funeral? She was deeply spiritual, but not religious. Her entire family planned the funeral around the religion she left years ago. They believe the focus of the funeral should be on their beliefs first and foremost. The friend is still honored but references made are frequently tied back to her former religion through songs, scripture, or speeches by leaders. They go against her wishes of how she would want to be remembered because it's more important to keep the focus of the service on teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Would you come away feeling peace or more confused because that's not the woman you knew? Would it help you in your grieving process? There are very valid reasons for not wanting a funeral.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Dec 6, 2015 19:54:39 GMT
I had to plan my parents' funerals (both died at 60, and we only had a vague idea of what they might want.) It, well, sucked. And now, at 16 and 14 years later, I kind of wish we would have done something different. (They're both cremated in and in a lovely mausoleum, but we should have scattered their ashes.)
So, I tell my kids all the time, do whatever you want. I joke that I have to wear my wedding dress once more, so if I die at 100 and have shrunk a foot, stuff me in it anyway, tart me up with makeup and stand around saying, "Doesn't mama look good?" And my sister, who will be 98 then, will fall down laughing like she does, so they can say about HER, "Oh the poor little thing is grief stricken".
I just know that it's so, so hard at that time to feel like you're doing the right thing, and I personally think there is a lot of guilt around it too, that you can't cheap out on the coffin or whatever.
My grandma died at 91 in May, and we had a lovely graveside service for her. We all had a bit of the last bottle of red wine she had in her fridge and all her grandchildren and some great-grandchildren shared memories of her. She would have loved it. That's what I would like too, I think. Simple, short, and while you can't expect people to be happy, then at least focus on the funny and positive when you talk about me.
Having said that, if the kids decide to shoot me out of a cannon and watch my wedding dress fluttering in the wind as I sail out over the ocean, that's fine too.
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Post by brandy327 on Dec 6, 2015 21:18:10 GMT
It's a really sucky conversation to have but a really important one. We were fortunate (gosh that doesn't seem like the right word) enough that when my dad was diagnosed with cancer, we were able to ask him what he wanted. And then once my dad passed, my mom made her wishes known. Our family has a family plot at the local cemetery that my great grandfather had purchased years and years ago. When my dad died, we got one of the plots and my mom purchased the headstone with my dad's name and her name on it. And she paid for her funeral expenses already. My MIL did the same as well when FIL passed away in Feb of this year. Off topic but I still need to make that decision. I don't know if I want a joint headstone. It seems like a sweet thing. But now that this decision is mine to make I just don't know. For one thing I don't particularly want to see my name on it now. I can't imagine how difficult it is to make that kind of decision. My mom was pretty young when my dad passed away (44 years old) and I'm not sure she put very much thought into it. She followed in my grandmother's footsteps, since my grandmother had done the same thing when my grandfather had died. My uncle (my mom's brother) died less than 2 weeks after my dad did and my aunt did the same thing. Obviously, it's a very personal thing. I haven't thought about it much as far as the headstone is concerned. I'll have to put some thought into now...
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Post by jenjie on Dec 6, 2015 21:22:28 GMT
brandy327 I'll be honest. Another thing holding me back. Obviously I have no desire 5 months out to even think of getting remarried. I don't want a new husband, I want the one I had. But I am young and not foolish enough to think it could not possibly happen someday. So what if that was to happen sometime in the future? Would a joint headstone be appropriate? I put way too much thought into things that might never come to pass. SIL seemed adamant about me getting a joint one.
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Post by gritzi on Dec 6, 2015 21:36:18 GMT
My wish is to be cremated. I want no part of being buried. I also feel that the $$$ spent for a traditional funeral is just exorbitant. I would prefer my husband & DSs use that toward a beach vacation (my favorite) & think of me.
A celebration of life service would be up to my husband & DSs. I absolutely do not want the traditional funeral dinner that follows.
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Post by mommamagoo on Dec 6, 2015 22:09:22 GMT
Hugs to everyone that this hits home for. JustKat, I think your plans sound thoughtful and lovely... and Jenjie, I have learned a lot reading your posts about losing your Fred and how your family is healing. I wish you all peace on your journeys.
I don't really care what happens to my body once I'm gone. Whatever brings my family comfort. I'd prefer to be cremated and the money for a funeral spent on a trip to make the family happy, or given to kids in need.. not on a depressing party. My only real requests are that if there must be a casket,that it is a simple, inexpensive one.. and that if they have to have a singer, for Heaven's sake get a good one! They'd better be belting out hymns in a voice like Etta James, or I will come back and haunt my family, and they all know it. I have been to one too many funerals with mousy, pitiful singers (bless their hearts), if someone is going to "sing me back home", I want them to do it right.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2015 22:14:42 GMT
ETA: I was trying to condense a post to the last sentence but screwed up somewhere. It said "Something I hope all you "I hate funeral fuss" will consider. You may very well be leaving family and friends behind that are left without a way to vent their grief." What if one of your nearest and dearest friends died and you attended her funeral? She was deeply spiritual, but not religious. Her entire family planned the funeral around the religion she left years ago. They believe the focus of the funeral should be on their beliefs first and foremost. The friend is still honored but references made are frequently tied back to her former religion through songs, scripture, or speeches by leaders. They go against her wishes of how she would want to be remembered because it's more important to keep the focus of the service on teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Would you come away feeling peace or more confused because that's not the woman you knew? Would it help you in your grieving process? There are very valid reasons for not wanting a funeral. Don't make my words into something not intended. I don't care what anyone plans for their own funeral. You want to have a Viking Funeral Pyre? Fine by me. The people you leave behind need to process their loss and will do so in their own way no matter how you think they should. Would I be confused in your example? Not so much. I might think the funeral completely inappropriate, though.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2015 22:23:57 GMT
brandy327 I'll be honest. Another thing holding me back. Obviously I have no desire 5 months out to even think of getting remarried. I don't want a new husband, I want the one I had. But I am young and not foolish enough to think it could not possibly happen someday. So what if that was to happen sometime in the future? Would a joint headstone be appropriate? I put way too much thought into things that might never come to pass. SIL seemed adamant about me getting a joint one. Oh Jen. Your SIL needs to shut the Hell up. If you wanted a double stone, I think you would know by now. FWIW, I didn't want one, but I can be added to his stone if I so choose.
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Post by brandy327 on Dec 6, 2015 23:41:46 GMT
brandy327 I'll be honest. Another thing holding me back. Obviously I have no desire 5 months out to even think of getting remarried. I don't want a new husband, I want the one I had. But I am young and not foolish enough to think it could not possibly happen someday. So what if that was to happen sometime in the future? Would a joint headstone be appropriate? I put way too much thought into things that might never come to pass. SIL seemed adamant about me getting a joint one. I completely understand that as I had my own thoughts about that when my mom decided to get a joint headstone. Obviously, I kept my thoughts to myself but at 44, I really thought she might remarry. It's been 14 years since my dad passed and she hasn't dated much so I don't think remarrying is in her future. I keep hoping that some guy will come along and sweep her off of her feet and take care of her but she's pretty independent and seems to be enjoying her life as it is. As long as she's happy, that's all that matters.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 7, 2015 0:08:40 GMT
I haven't, other than that I want a headstone someone has to mow around. I am a jerk that way.
In seriousness, however, dh has lost all four of his grandparents since we have been married, and he has found it difficult to deal with the deaths that didn't have a funeral (for various reasons). I do want to sketch a little something out so that inertia and grief doesn't make it so that people are at a loss for what to do at a time when they aren't going to want to be dealing with logistics.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 0:12:42 GMT
The only things that are important to me regarding my after-death care are: 1. All organs and body parts that can be used, donated for transplant or research. 2. Cremation. 3. No mention of God (by anyone) at any service that my family may want to hold.
What happens to my remains or what kind of gathering is held is something I'd like my family to decide.
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Post by AN on Dec 7, 2015 0:45:23 GMT
I see a lot of people mentioning donating your body to science. A couple points:
1. You generally are not able to donate your organs to the living and have the rest donated to science, unless there is a really unique circumstance where you have something "worth" studying in a part of the body not impacted by donating your organs. Pretty rare, I haven't heard of many situations like that.
2. You need to set this up in advance. Just telling your family "Donate my body to science" actually probably leaves them with a hassle and headache. If you are sure that's what you want, get on a registry now, even if you might become ineligible later.
3. You should have a "backup" plan for your family, as the banks do not accept every body for a host of good reasons.
(By the way, I'm reading the book Stiff and highly recommend it to anyone who has the stomach for some discussion of what happens to bodies after death, especially those used for science! There are some short articles online too with similar content, I think one on The Atlantic.)
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Post by jenjie on Dec 7, 2015 1:32:30 GMT
brandy327 I'll be honest. Another thing holding me back. Obviously I have no desire 5 months out to even think of getting remarried. I don't want a new husband, I want the one I had. But I am young and not foolish enough to think it could not possibly happen someday. So what if that was to happen sometime in the future? Would a joint headstone be appropriate? I put way too much thought into things that might never come to pass. SIL seemed adamant about me getting a joint one. I completely understand that as I had my own thoughts about that when my mom decided to get a joint headstone. Obviously, I kept my thoughts to myself but at 44, I really thought she might remarry. It's been 14 years since my dad passed and she hasn't dated much so I don't think remarrying is in her future. I keep hoping that some guy will come along and sweep her off of her feet and take care of her but she's pretty independent and seems to be enjoying her life as it is. As long as she's happy, that's all that matters. Very sweet of you to be looking out for your mom like this. <3. And thank you for not pushing her. My ds10 asked me again about getting married. I asked "WHY do you ask?" He talked about that a lot until I was able to tell him dad prvoided for us and I don't need my bills paid by a man. Why start asking again now? His answer melted my heart - "I don't want you to be alone forever." So precious to know he is concerned about ME.
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