Deleted
Posts: 0
Aug 18, 2025 21:33:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 3:33:43 GMT
I am spinning off from the carpal tunnel thread. I am having a colonoscopy on Friday and I am having propafol (sp?) and being put out. No conscious sedation for me! Dh was out out as well for his colonoscopy.
My ex-dh had conscious sedation when they tried to set his broken ankle and I could hear him scream in pain from the hallway. I cried while they continued to try for two minutes and he was screaming. They had to eventually take him to surgery to get it set under full sedation.
Not a fan of conscious sedation.
I am surprised at how any people prefer it for procedures. What did you do for your colonoscopy or similar procedure?
|
|
valincal
Drama Llama
Southern Alberta
Posts: 6,225 
|
Post by valincal on Dec 15, 2015 3:39:46 GMT
I had my first and only colonoscopy in February without sedation. I really don't recommend it. Ouch.
|
|
|
|
Post by pmm on Dec 15, 2015 3:45:23 GMT
Propothal is used for conscious sedation. It is often referred to as "the Michael Jackson drug" or "milk of amnesia". It can be titrated to the desired effect. I have seen patients that have a low enough dose that they can still have a full on conversation with you and others that are so heavily sedated that pinching them doesn't even get you a response.
For my colonoscopy I had propothal. I remember telling the team "I'm awake, I'm awake. Their response was "It's okay." Then back to sleep I went. I didn't feel anything uncomfortable; but, I could hear them talking during the procedure. I didn't even remember what they were saying.
|
|
|
|
Post by pjaye on Dec 15, 2015 3:49:26 GMT
It's just a colonoscopy, the tube is only about 1/2 an inch across and it's going into somewhere that is a ready made exit point. Nothing about that is painful. If it wasn't the embarrassment factor, and the need to lie relatively still, this would be perfectly reasonable and pain free without any sort of sedation at all.
If I was just having a colonoscopy I'd have nothing the next time.
When I had mine, I had a gastroscopy at the same time, and I definitely did not want to be aware of that tube going into my oesophagus and stomach so I just had midazolam. Again it's not painful, but if a patient is gagging & retching and potentially biting the tube etc, then it's not a pleasant procedure for anyone.
Attempts at bone setting are painful under sedation, for me it would depend on where it is, but I'd probably be prepared to try one or two attempts under sedation before agreeing to a full surgery.
|
|
|
|
Post by bc2ca on Dec 15, 2015 3:52:11 GMT
I don't remember what drugs were used, but I had conscious sedation for both my colonoscopies. I was definitely in and out of awareness during the procedures but had no pain or discomfort. Honestly the procedure is a piece of cake compared to the prep  . |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Aug 18, 2025 21:33:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 3:54:40 GMT
I was "put under" for mine but I woke up in the middle of it (wasn't supposed to) There was no pain. I could feel the prob... sort of like the movement of an unborn baby in the earlier part of pregnancy but in the wrong place. They had some nice enya style music, the conversation was low tones about vital signs etc, the room was cold according to my upper and lower cheeks but I was wrapped in a very warm heavy blanket all over the rest of me. I heard the doc say he was half way done. Then I got bored and went back to sleep.
|
|
|
|
Post by mom on Dec 15, 2015 3:55:34 GMT
I would only do full sedation for a colonoscopy (or any procedure for that matter!).
|
|
|
|
Post by Zee on Dec 15, 2015 3:58:52 GMT
Propothal is used for conscious sedation. It is often referred to as "the Michael Jackson drug" or "milk of amnesia". It can be titrated to the desired effect. I have seen patients that have a low enough dose that they can still have a full on conversation with you and others that are so heavily sedated that pinching them doesn't even get you a response. For my colonoscopy I had propothal. I remember telling the team "I'm awake, I'm awake. Their response was "It's okay." Then back to sleep I went. I didn't feel anything uncomfortable; but, I could hear them talking during the procedure. I didn't even remember what they were saying. I've never heard of propofol being used for conscious sedation. You learn something new every day! |
|
|
|
Post by jenis40 on Dec 15, 2015 4:02:16 GMT
I've had conscious sedation for multiple bone marrow biopsies and I love it. I've also had bone marrow biopsies without it hence why I love it. They use fentanyl and versed for my biopsies. Fentanyl is for the pain and versed is to make you forget. Not sure if these are just the drugs my hospital uses or if that is what is generally used for bone marrow biopsies under sedation. I haven't had any adverse reaction and it seems like the whole process only takes a minute.
I also have to have a colonoscopy next week. I know it's going to be under conscious sedation but we haven't discussed drugs yet.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Aug 18, 2025 21:33:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 4:02:27 GMT
I had a neck injection done back in October between C6-7 and I was out for that. DH said that he is completely out for his colonoscopies. I assume that I will be as well since I am using the same doctor.
I am just ready to get the prep over with. I am only 47 so this colonoscopy is just to get a base line since I have a family history of colon cancer. My mother has had 5 polyps removed and her father died of colon cancer. So regardless of the prep and the procedure...I am glad that I am doing it.
|
|
|
|
Post by MichyM on Dec 15, 2015 4:03:30 GMT
I don't remember what drugs were used, but I had conscious sedation for both my colonoscopies. I was definitely in and out of awareness during the procedures but had no pain or discomfort. Honestly the procedure is a piece of cake compared to the prep . Exactly that (no pain or even discomfort at all), except I thought the prep was much easier than expected! I decided to follow a loose interpretation of a pre prep diet for a couple days beforehand which may have helped.... |
|
|
|
Post by mom on Dec 15, 2015 4:04:39 GMT
I had a neck injection done back in October between C6-7 and I was out for that. DH said that he is completely out for his colonoscopies. I assume that I will be as well since I am using the same doctor. I am just ready to get the prep over with. I am only 47 so this colonoscopy is just to get a base line since I have a family history of colon cancer. My mother has had 5 polyps removed and her father died of colon cancer. So regardless of the prep and the procedure...I am glad that I am doing it. Good for you for staying on top of this! |
|
|
|
Post by iteach3rdgrade on Dec 15, 2015 4:11:03 GMT
I've had 2 and I remember more than I care to. Even though it is uncomfortable, it's easy to forget and hasn't scarred me for life. I had the endoscope, I think that's the name, and they did it first, but I remember gagging and feeling like I was choking as they shoved it down my throat, but it was over almost a soon as I noticed.
I always ask for more and they never give it to me. I'd rather not go completely out unless it's a surgery.
|
|
valincal
Drama Llama
Southern Alberta
Posts: 6,225
|
Post by valincal on Dec 15, 2015 4:44:22 GMT
It's just a colonoscopy, the tube is only about 1/2 an inch across and it's going into somewhere that is a ready made exit point. Nothing about that is painful. If it wasn't the embarrassment factor, and the need to lie relatively still, this would be perfectly reasonable and pain free without any sort of sedation at all. Not in my case. Insertion and removal were a piece of cake but when a corner of the colon was navigated it felt like I'd been punched hard in the gut.  Maybe that's not the norm but I would opt for the conscious sedation next time, which will be in 10 years barring any issues. |
|
|
|
Post by peano on Dec 15, 2015 4:51:10 GMT
I am spinning off from the carpal tunnel thread. I am having a colonoscopy on Friday and I am having propafol (sp?) and being put out. No conscious sedation for me! Dh was out out as well for his colonoscopy. My ex-dh had conscious sedation when they tried to set his broken ankle and I could hear him scream in pain from the hallway. I cried while they continued to try for two minutes and he was screaming. They had to eventually take him to surgery to get it set under full sedation. Not a fan of conscious sedation. I am surprised at how any people prefer it for procedures. What did you do for your colonoscopy or similar procedure? I was surprised when I heard that some people are completely out for a colonoscopy. I suppose I had conscious sedation because I could see the room and equipment, people moving around, and could feel the probe inside but no pain at all. Piece of cake compared to the prep. Now waking up during major surgery under general anesthesia--that's another story. |
|
Nink
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,963
Location: North Idaho
|
Post by Nink on Dec 15, 2015 5:45:18 GMT
I had my first colonoscopy a couple of months ago. They tried to sedate me, but it never "took" for some reason. I did the test without it. There were times it was uncomfortable, but not painful. When I do it again in three years I'll probably just do it sedation free.
|
|
|
|
Post by mom2samlibby on Dec 15, 2015 6:32:16 GMT
I had a colonoscopy done back in the early '90's and was awake for the entire procedure. I remember watching on the screen as the camera moved along. I don't remember getting a sedative at all. My husband had one done a few years ago and I was so surprised that they put him under for it. I was amazed at how times had changed from when I had mine done to when he had his done.
|
|
melissa
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,912
|
Post by melissa on Dec 15, 2015 11:58:27 GMT
I've had propofol several times. Not a big deal. Fabulous drug. I can see why MJ wanted it. I woke up refreshed and ready to go each and every time!
|
|
|
|
Post by gailoh on Dec 15, 2015 12:00:31 GMT
Knocked out for hubby and me both...
|
|
|
|
Post by librarylady on Dec 15, 2015 14:39:13 GMT
I have had 3 done. I don't know what drug was used, but I was totally out for the procedures.
On the second one, my dr. told the anesthesiologist, "My notes show she was hard to go under last time, so use XX"
Recovery was quick.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Aug 18, 2025 21:33:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 14:43:25 GMT
I have it for all dental procedures and never remember a thing. It's the only way to go.
|
|
|
|
Post by compwalla on Dec 15, 2015 14:56:35 GMT
I just had a liver biopsy and only had fentanyl because I had to be awake to breathe in and out and hold my breath as they needed me to. No way I could do that if I was out. It was only painful a couple of times. It *was* most unnerving and uncomfortable all the time. I'm about to undergo liver ablation on three lesions and I will be completely out for that because they need me to be perfectly still for the whole procedure. Although it's riskier than sedation I am really quite glad I'll be out.
For my one and only colonoscopy so far I was out and I was glad for it. I know some people prefer not to be but I am not one of those people. Night-night!
|
|
katybee
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,610
|
Post by katybee on Dec 15, 2015 15:39:09 GMT
I had the Michael Jackson drug. It was awesome.
|
|
|
|
Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 15, 2015 15:46:11 GMT
I had an upper GI and a colonoscopy a few years ago. I requested no sedation as I have very negative reactions to most pain killers. The doctor was very skeptical of the upper GI, insisting that I wouldn't be able to control my gag reflect. I asked him to try-and had zero issues. It wasn't pleasant, but not painful and I didn't vomit all over him. Now the colonoscopy was a whole other ball of wax. It was actually pretty painful. Now I was having GI issues, which might have been a factor. Partly through it, the doctor ended up giving me a shot of morphine, as I really wasn't sure he could continue without something. I was conscious through it all, and after the morphine fine.
I also had my wisdom teeth out with just a local.
|
|
|
|
Post by SallyPA on Dec 15, 2015 16:00:48 GMT
Propofol IS conscious sedation. You are sedated due to the propofol in an IV but conscious enough to breath on your own. Having a colonoscopy under general anesthesia isn't very common and I doubt most insurances pay for it unless done simultaneously with another procedure that does require it.
|
|
|
|
Post by ten&rose on Dec 15, 2015 16:09:56 GMT
The facility I work for uses propofol for most GI procedures unless insurance doesn't cover it. Then the patient will get versed and and fentynl (I think). The procedures go much smoother with propofol.
|
|
|
|
Post by jemmls4 on Dec 15, 2015 17:34:35 GMT
I've had over 50 colonoscopies starting when I was 11 y.o. The first few I do remember parts of it. One was at a teaching hospital and they even let me look through the scope. While uncomfortable, nothing so bad as needing full-on anesthesia.
I also had one when I was pregnant with my son because I was having a flare up of my ulcerative colitis, but all my docs thought it was something else. I could not have any anesthesia. Not the best experience in my life, but not that bad. Honestly, the prep is worse than the scope.
Anesthesia has many risks of its own and that's why many doctors prefer conscious sedation because the risks are much, much less.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Aug 18, 2025 21:33:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 17:48:41 GMT
I've had many many endoscopies and thankfully I've been knocked completely out for all of them except one. It was my first one in an Irish hospital and they tried a mild sedation, well, lets just say it didn't go well and after fighting with the doctor I was taken back to the ward without having the procedure done  |
|
The Birdhouse Lady
Prolific Pea
Moose. It's what's for dinner.
Posts: 7,589
Location: Alaska -The Last Frontier
Jun 30, 2014 17:15:19 GMT
|
Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Dec 15, 2015 18:20:17 GMT
Recently my husband and I both had colonoscopy's under conscience sedation. I went first and don't remember a thing even though the nurse told my husband that I didn't like it very much and kept saying ouch.
My husband went the following week. He says he could feel everything but wasn't able to speak.
Who knows. I think the next time we both need to be knocked out!
ETA...the prep was WAY worse than the procedure. I ended up throwing up at least 1/2 of the prep. Pooping and puking at the same time was not fun AT ALL!!!  |
|
|
|
Post by shevy on Dec 15, 2015 20:28:36 GMT
Quit scaring me.  I have a colonoscopy scheduled after the holidays. Nerve blocks haven't worked on me in the past. And I was awake the whole prep of a surgery because the dr either didn't give me enough Versaid or didn't give me it at all. I remember them relaxing my throat with a drug to intubate me without telling me they were doing it. And I was tied to the table by then and couldn't gesture and thought I was dying. It was horrible. Needless to say I have huge anxiety prior to hospital events/surgeries. I asked at the desk about the sedation and she said it would all be fine and they would help manage my anxiety. |
|
.
I have a colonoscopy scheduled after the holidays.