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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 20:21:46 GMT
When you watch someone's videos and they are making a card or scrapbook page and they say something like "I am so excited to show you this beautiful card..." Or "I hope you enjoyed this absolutely gorgeous layout"...does it bug you?
Lately I've started watching more video and I seem to hear makers giving accolades to their own projects and over the top compliments to themselves and it just really turns me off.
Have you noticed this?
Does it bug you?
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Post by kellyv on Jan 23, 2016 21:33:46 GMT
you know, i watch so few videos that i can't really comment other than to say i will listen for it!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 23, 2016 21:43:11 GMT
I talk to the video when I disagree with the placement of an embellishment. You know how they move it all over trying to decide and I'm yelling, "No, no, no, YES, no put it back where you had it...". Then I'm all pissy and hate on the wrong (in my mind) placement for the rest of the video.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 23, 2016 23:27:22 GMT
I pick up on funny stuff like this, but no, I haven't ever done this. Now I am sure that I will. I guess if they are posting free stuff, I give them a pass.
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Post by purplebee on Jan 23, 2016 23:39:00 GMT
Yes I agree! I recently heard someone comment on their own "gorgeous" layout, and it made me think huh?? Wait for the comments please......
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Post by ellewood on Jan 24, 2016 0:09:36 GMT
Hahaha, that's a really interesting observation! I watch videos all the time and haven't noticed it.
I will also say our society really likes people who are unassuming and self-deprecating. Especially women! (How many conversations can you think of where a woman criticizes something about herself? And how many conversations can you think of where a woman expresses unabated confidence?) So I would give it a pass in the interest of stopping that harmful habit.
I don't mean to take this convo to the next level, but that sort of thing pops directly into my mind when we give side-eye to a person who thinks highly of themselves or their work. But I sincerely doubt this is running through the heads of the people saying these things!
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jan 24, 2016 0:39:37 GMT
I talk to the video when I disagree with the placement of an embellishment. You know how they move it all over trying to decide and I'm yelling, "No, no, no, YES, no put it back where you had it...". Then I'm all pissy and hate on the wrong (in my mind) placement for the rest of the video. I do this too. I always hope to be pleasantly surprised by the completed project when they don't put the embellishments where I would have. |
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Post by LisaDV on Jan 24, 2016 1:31:54 GMT
I would rather have someone think their layout is gorgeous than be like "um, here is my layout, it's not that great, but..." No one would watch that person. I think the people who promote their work in a positive light do so because that's what will bring people in. I talk to the video when I disagree with the placement of an embellishment. You know how they move it all over trying to decide and I'm yelling, "No, no, no, YES, no put it back where you had it...". Then I'm all pissy and hate on the wrong (in my mind) placement for the rest of the video. I talk to the video too. and hope like Chinagirl828 to be pleasantly surprised at the end. |
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Post by mom on Jan 24, 2016 1:43:03 GMT
I don't usually watch videos, but I will most certainly start listening for this now!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 2:03:55 GMT
Hahaha, that's a really interesting observation! I watch videos all the time and haven't noticed it. I will also say our society really likes people who are unassuming and self-deprecating. Especially women! (How many conversations can you think of where a woman criticizes something about herself? And how many conversations can you think of where a woman expresses unabated confidence?) So I would give it a pass in the interest of stopping that harmful habit. I don't mean to take this convo to the next level, but that sort of thing pops directly into my mind when we give side-eye to a person who thinks highly of themselves or their work. But I sincerely doubt this is running through the heads of the people saying these things! I don't like that crap either. If you think your work sucks, why do you think I would want to watch a video about your process? I think you (the makers of the world) should let me form my own opinion. Don't tell me what to think. Clearly, if I press play, something has peaked my interest. I like information that I can use in some way to become a better scrapbookers myself. Sell that. And I will subscribe to your channel. It's great to be confident. Don't cheapen yourself by being braggy. |
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Post by FurryP on Jan 25, 2016 2:05:48 GMT
I don't think I have ever noticed. Probably because I am so used to scrapbook hauls where they describe everything they bought or receive (no matter how ugly) as "gorgeous" or "fabulous", that I probably don't hear it anymore. I have my own opinion and ignore what they say.
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Post by paperpilekitten on Jan 25, 2016 9:40:52 GMT
Hahaha, that's a really interesting observation! I watch videos all the time and haven't noticed it. I will also say our society really likes people who are unassuming and self-deprecating. Especially women! (How many conversations can you think of where a woman criticizes something about herself? And how many conversations can you think of where a woman expresses unabated confidence?) So I would give it a pass in the interest of stopping that harmful habit. I don't mean to take this convo to the next level, but that sort of thing pops directly into my mind when we give side-eye to a person who thinks highly of themselves or their work. But I sincerely doubt this is running through the heads of the people saying these things! That is so true! Let's celebrate women who are brave enough to say 'This is my work and I'm proud of it'.  I guess the viewer forms her personal opinion while watching the video, anyway. And that's all right. I'm guilty of spontaneously blurting out things like 'Oooh, this is pretty!' while playing around and putting two pieces or colors together and discover that they look great together. But I don't think I've ever called my finished projects gorgeous or fabulous or anything positive (but not anything negative, either). Now I'm feeling the urge to start doing that!  |
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Post by kitbop on Jan 25, 2016 12:26:59 GMT
I don't continue watching! It seriously bugs me, like I'm being advertised to. I know a lot of the videos are promotional for DTs and products, and I don't mind when people say "this gorgeous light modelling paste in this yummy colour" but don't tell me what to think of your designs  It doesn't bug me when people say "I really like the way this one turned out", or "I think this and this looks good together" or anything like that. Of course you should like what you did...and it simultaneously gives me confidence that you would tell me when you are UNHAPPY with the way something went. But yes that initial "My lovely layout" bugs me too much  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 15:27:36 GMT
For me it really depends on the attitude of the person. Are they being boastful or just trying to sell product? Or are they humble and are sort of impressed with themselves. I see the latter in Wilna Furstenburg. She is super talented but shows her flaws and talks about them. So when she says, "Oh this layout is gorgeous." Or, "It's a favorite of mine" I actually appreciate her confidence. And in turn it makes me think that I too can do something gorgeous.
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Post by grammanisi on Jan 25, 2016 16:43:51 GMT
I haven't really noticed that in the videos that I watch.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 25, 2016 19:00:03 GMT
I haven't really noticed it but will be listening out for it now!
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Post by jen on Jan 25, 2016 19:07:36 GMT
I guess it doesn't bother me or I don't notice. I really only watch Wilna's videos & I do think her pages are beautiful & she probably does say that.
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Post by thracian on Jan 25, 2016 19:18:14 GMT
Either I haven't noticed this or I don't watch the same videos.
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Post by beachgirlht on Jan 25, 2016 20:12:50 GMT
I don't know that I pay that much attention. I just want to better my process. I don't much care what they think of themselves.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 25, 2016 22:51:48 GMT
I don't really notice it because I always skip the long and drawn out introduction at beginning of videos and the blah blah blah of the end. I just FF to the to the actual how-to part and stop when I get the point.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 25, 2016 23:04:57 GMT
I talk to the video when I disagree with the placement of an embellishment. You know how they move it all over trying to decide and I'm yelling, "No, no, no, YES, no put it back where you had it...". Then I'm all pissy and hate on the wrong (in my mind) placement for the rest of the video.  |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 25, 2016 23:07:22 GMT
Hahaha, that's a really interesting observation! I watch videos all the time and haven't noticed it. I will also say our society really likes people who are unassuming and self-deprecating. Especially women! (How many conversations can you think of where a woman criticizes something about herself? And how many conversations can you think of where a woman expresses unabated confidence?) So I would give it a pass in the interest of stopping that harmful habit. I don't mean to take this convo to the next level, but that sort of thing pops directly into my mind when we give side-eye to a person who thinks highly of themselves or their work. But I sincerely doubt this is running through the heads of the people saying these things! That is a very interesting perspective, and gives me something to think about. |
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jan 25, 2016 23:33:02 GMT
For me it really depends on the attitude of the person. Are they being boastful or just trying to sell product? Or are they humble and are sort of impressed with themselves. I see the latter in Wilna Furstenburg. She is super talented but shows her flaws and talks about them. So when she says, "Oh this layout is gorgeous." Or, "It's a favorite of mine" I actually appreciate her confidence. And in turn it makes me think that I too can do something gorgeous. I agree with this. I really like Nic Mackin for this. Often during her layout shares she'll point out a layout that she really loves - and will also comment on the ones that are not her favourite but also explains why. |
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Jan 26, 2016 1:52:57 GMT
I can think of 2 you tubers one is quite popular and its like they love sound of their voices lol.
Confidence is one thing but to me those 2 just irritate me with what comes across as bragging and at times preaching.
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Post by meridon on Jan 26, 2016 2:11:54 GMT
Hee hee..I can only think of one I watch regularly who does this, but it's very tongue-in-cheek and she also makes fun of herself in a good natured way for taking so many selfies and then scrapping them. She's always making fun of herself for being vain. I guess like others have said, if it comes across as "I'm proud of myself for how this turned out" or "this one is one of my faves" that's different from being overly boastful. The point made about it being cultural is a good one, also. We do expect women to be modest and self-deprecating. Well, unless you're a Kardashian or a Real Housewife, I guess!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 8:06:32 GMT
I'm guilty of spontaneously blurting out things like 'Oooh, this is pretty!' while playing around and putting two pieces or colors together and discover that they look great together. But I don't think I've ever called my finished projects gorgeous or fabulous or anything positive (but not anything negative, either). Now I'm feeling the urge to start doing that! I am guilty of doing this too. I did it a few minutes ago, actually. ! Original OP Question about the bragging- I have noticed it too. I love and support a girl who is confident and proud of her work. I don't make videos but I always compliment my work when it turns out good. I don't want to create if I think I am going to suck. The bragging girls are over the top. Confidence is one thing but the bragging is Real Housewives of the Scrapbook World. I do think that when I watch their videos. It seems to me that they are trying to emulate the ladies who are on Real Housewives. I am waiting for a glass of champagne and a Pomeranian to show up in their videos. Seriously, maybe the YT girls are inspired by RH and want their video channel to be similar. I know if I made a You Tube channel it would probably be like Keeping Up Appearances. ! I also think some of the YT girls are trying to hawk the products and go way overboard with the bragging sales pitches. I don't think some of them know how over the top they are. They would be embarrassed if somebody told them. |
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 27, 2016 1:02:10 GMT
I have only watched about 10-15 YouTubers do scrapbooking but I honestly don't think I've ever heard anyone say "let me show you this gorgeous layout" etc. That's a bit much. I would probably chuckle. I do have a friend who is my favorite YouTuber, Jen Schow, who will say, "I just love how this turned out." and it makes me happy because she's making something that makes HER happy. I sometimes will say in a video at the very end, "I'm really happy with how this came out." but that's more just because when you're actually making a video, it's very difficult to think of what to say! I try not to be overly critical of anyone on YouTube because it takes me like 6 to 8 hours to make a video and upload it and I'm kind of in shock so many people put them up for us to enjoy. I don't really even quite understand why most of them do it other than they just like to share! |
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Post by mrssch on Jan 27, 2016 16:36:53 GMT
I watch TONS of YouTube videos and I have heard several of the ladies make comments similar to the ones you mention. It doesn't bother me that they think their work is "gorgeous" or however they describe it.
What bothers me is: the constant apologies for lighting, kids, dogs, etc. If you know it's a nuisance don't record / voice over. Or apologize once and move on. If it keeps happening, you aren't sorry. It doesn't have to be Oscar -worthy, but if you know it's wrong, why publish?
It's free; I get that... but I can't hear/see/understand you!!
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Post by 3girlsmomma on Jan 27, 2016 17:45:40 GMT
It bugs me a little, when folks start off bragging. But I will give them a chance. And it better be beautiful! or elegant! or easy! lol....
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Post by anonrefugee on Jan 27, 2016 18:46:20 GMT
I don't watch enough videos to notice, but now I will!
When I'm searching for something on Craigslist I've noticed something similar and been bugged. I always think to myself, "I'll decide if it's a fabulous table, not you." Or "if it's sooooooo amazing, why sell it on Craigslist?"
Well now. That sounds petty doesn't it ? !
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