Nicole in TX
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Post by Nicole in TX on Jan 27, 2016 23:16:10 GMT
My DH is military and he has made these kinds of comments about WWP for a long time. It's not an organization we support. My DH is not military, but he has lots of friends that are and they all say the same thing.
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Post by lisae on Jan 27, 2016 23:19:11 GMT
I saw the piece on the news and wasn't that surprised. I knew they had a poor rating on Charity Navigator. If you ever donate to something, check there first. I was doing research for something last year and it is surprising at some of the big name charities that only give 60-70% of their money for their programs. Actually it isn't that surprising when you see the names and realize they are often the most heavily advertised charities.
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Post by eversograceful1 on Jan 27, 2016 23:24:47 GMT
I was so disappointed when I read this yesterday.
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Post by cmpeter on Jan 28, 2016 1:28:29 GMT
NPR had a huge story on the same topic today. Part of it discussed how the founder ended up resigning because of conflict with the current CEO. The current CEO doesn't has a much different philosophy and strives for a Starbucks like business model. It was a very interesting read.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jan 28, 2016 1:46:01 GMT
This makes me sad.
I donated recently because of a matching drive. My fault for not checking it out beforehand.
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Post by SnowWhite on Jan 28, 2016 2:54:17 GMT
The current CEO doesn't has a much different philosophy and strives for a Starbucks like business model. What does that meant? WWP is a charity not a coffee company. I'm not making the connection as to how that would even apply.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 28, 2016 3:06:03 GMT
NPR had a huge story on the same topic today. Part of it discussed how the founder ended up resigning because of conflict with the current CEO. The current CEO doesn't has a much different philosophy and strives for a Starbucks like business model. It was a very interesting read. Do you happen to have the link for the article? I follow NPR on twitter and generally end up on the npr site several times a day and then wandering around reading other articles but totally missed this one. I would love to read it!
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Post by *KAS* on Jan 28, 2016 15:41:13 GMT
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I was watching the evening news and they did this story about Wounded Warriors that made a very good case that only about 60% of every dollar donated is used to help our veterans. The remaining 40% is partly used for team building events at a 5 star resorts in Colorado. well then thank goodness Donald Trump is having a fundraiser for them tomorrow night. the admins at Wounded Warriors can look forward to more team building events thanks to the Donald. I don't know what exactly he's doing, but the article I read said that Wounded Warrior Project (which is the focus of this thread) wasn't aware of Trump wanting to do anything with them. I know he used the term Wounded Warriors, but that's obviously different than doing something with this specific organization.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 17:21:24 GMT
I know he used the term Wounded Warriors, but that's obviously different than doing something with this specific organization. I didn't think he was being specific about them either. It was really odd the way he made the statement. It sounded like he was making up things as he went along, thinking in his head "What is going to sound good?"
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 28, 2016 18:04:19 GMT
I'll agree that the Wounded Warrior foundation should be using as much of their funds to help vs. throwing retreats. But I do want to say that they do help veterans. And even a spouse with rare exception.
My DH is active duty. Normally only service men and women are treated by WW. But I also benefitted from their facilities. In September of 2013, I was diagnosed with scarring on my right inner ear from a sinus infection. It severely affected my balance. My doctors felt that I would get better, but needed intensive specialized PT and OT to get there--to essentially rewire my brain around the scar tissue. But there wasn't an OT/PT in the DC area who did this kind of vestibular therapy. So the doctors from the WW center took me on. I saw their neurologists, ophthalmologists, PTs, OTs, etc. Every session, there was someone new observing my treatment so that they could help the soldiers, as so many come home with a variety of brain injuries.
I'd like to see a much higher percentage of the donations go to WW itself. But I also know that the organization does a lot of good. And the employees are just incredible. The care and empathy displayed must take it's toll on those who see so much misery every day.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 28, 2016 18:10:43 GMT
I'll agree that the Wounded Warrior foundation should be using as much of their funds to help vs. throwing retreats. But I do want to say that they do help veterans. And even a spouse with rare exception. My DH is active duty. Normally only service men and women are treated by WW. But I also benefitted from their facilities. In September of 2013, I was diagnosed with scarring on my right inner ear from a sinus infection. It severely affected my balance. My doctors felt that I would get better, but needed intensive specialized PT and OT to get there--to essentially rewire my brain around the scar tissue. But there wasn't an OT/PT in the DC area who did this kind of vestibular therapy. So the doctors from the WW center took me on. I saw their neurologists, ophthalmologists, PTs, OTs, etc. Every session, there was someone new observing my treatment so that they could help the soldiers, as so many come home with a variety of brain injuries. I'd like to see a much higher percentage of the donations go to WW itself. But I also know that the organization does a lot of good. And the employees are just incredible. The care and empathy displayed must take it's toll on those who see so much misery every day. I'm so glad to read your personal testimony about WWP. It gives me hope.
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Post by shevy on Jan 28, 2016 18:19:51 GMT
It seems as though when a charity is started and small, they're great and serve a purpose. But the bigger they get, the more they lose their focus.
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Post by deshacrafts on Jan 28, 2016 18:56:17 GMT
Another thing they have done is sue any other organization that uses the term Wounded Warrior in its name, even though it is a common military term. It caused a lot of harm to groups that were truly helping vets. They must be taking plays from the Komen playbook..... I was thinking the same thing. I don't support Komen anymore and I did their 3 Day Walk. It's a shame when these organizations get to big and forget their original purpose. I won't support WW now either.
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Post by peabay on Jan 28, 2016 19:07:58 GMT
Just two weeks ago, my 13 year old turned to me when we were watching TV and asked: "how much money is going to vets if they buy all this TV time?" and we looked it up and we were both so disappointed to see how much actually went to the Vets. Then this broke on CBS news last night and we actually were like: "that's really weird that we just looked that up."
I'm so glad they went forward with this - it's reprehensible that not every dollar is going to the vets. And I'm in agreement with those who think it's awful that they even have to exist.
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Post by Kymberlee on Jan 28, 2016 19:48:13 GMT
I'll agree that the Wounded Warrior foundation should be using as much of their funds to help vs. throwing retreats. But I do want to say that they do help veterans. And even a spouse with rare exception. My DH is active duty. Normally only service men and women are treated by WW. But I also benefitted from their facilities. In September of 2013, I was diagnosed with scarring on my right inner ear from a sinus infection. It severely affected my balance. My doctors felt that I would get better, but needed intensive specialized PT and OT to get there--to essentially rewire my brain around the scar tissue. But there wasn't an OT/PT in the DC area who did this kind of vestibular therapy. So the doctors from the WW center took me on. I saw their neurologists, ophthalmologists, PTs, OTs, etc. Every session, there was someone new observing my treatment so that they could help the soldiers, as so many come home with a variety of brain injuries. I'd like to see a much higher percentage of the donations go to WW itself. But I also know that the organization does a lot of good. And the employees are just incredible. The care and empathy displayed must take it's toll on those who see so much misery every day. Wow! That is really cool. I am happy to hear that WWP was able to help you. I think the publicity that WWP generates is a good thing. Not necessarily that bad that is coming out now, but the commercials and the presence that they have in our everyday experiences. That alone is enough for me to say bravo to them for bringing attention to the very real issues and problems that our veterans face when they return from active duty service. I hate what they have become, and I hate the real life anecdotals I hear from people that have dealt with them, but I do think that they have done some good. Without WWP, would we have organizations such as The Semper Fi Project or TAPS or any of the other smaller organizations that devote almost 100% of their resources to the needs of vets and their families? Maybe or maybe not, but the reality is the WWP DOES shed light on our vets and their visible and very invisible wounds they suffer from everyday. Hopefully, after all of this negative pub, they will switch gears and appoint some leadership that will bring them back to their original mission.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 28, 2016 20:15:49 GMT
There are better charities that give a bigger % that I will support. I 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Fisher House.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 28, 2016 22:35:52 GMT
I've heard that several veteran's organizations have said that if they are offered any money from tonight's fundraiser they will not take it. They are very unhappy and feel that Mr. Trump has co-opted their issues for political gain and they do not like being used in that way.
Frankly, I am really proud of them if they do that. He HAS co-opted what is otherwise a worthy cause to further try to gain points and deflect what is (to some) a toddler like tantrum to take his toys and go home because he isn't getting the kind of treatment he feels he deserves. I am a strong supporter of our military and think that Mr. Trump picked the wrong organization to try to make himself look good-all he did was make it look like he is a spoiled child who picked the group he thought would win himself the most points.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 29, 2016 2:19:57 GMT
Just thought I'd give you a peek at what I did for 6 months up at Walter Reed's Wounded Warrior Center. There were 2 treadmills side by side and a platform that raised, lowered and tipped. I wore a safety harness to keep me from falling when a was dizzy. Basically, the movement on the screen was increased to create vertigo until I vomited, then it was stopped for 5-10 minutes, then repeated. It was pure torture.
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Post by bunnylady on Jan 29, 2016 2:45:50 GMT
I didn't know this about WW, thank you for posting. My husband is a disabled veteran and I can tell you that without question, mental health care is what they need. The physical wounds heal pretty fast, it's getting all the things these guys are asked to do out of their heads that is the tough part.
Thanks all who listed alternative places to donate. :heart:
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 29, 2016 3:14:20 GMT
Just thought I'd give you a peek at what I did for 6 months up at Walter Reed's Wounded Warrior Center. There were 2 treadmills side by side and a platform that raised, lowered and tipped. I wore a safety harness to keep me from falling when a was dizzy. Basically, the movement on the screen was increased to create vertigo until I vomited, then it was stopped for 5-10 minutes, then repeated. It was pure torture. Walter Reed's Wounded Warrior Center is not part of the Wounded Warrior Project, it's a military run hospital... www.wwcc.capmed.mil/SitePages/WarriorCare.aspx
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 29, 2016 3:16:16 GMT
I'll agree that the Wounded Warrior foundation should be using as much of their funds to help vs. throwing retreats. But I do want to say that they do help veterans. And even a spouse with rare exception. My DH is active duty. Normally only service men and women are treated by WW. But I also benefitted from their facilities. In September of 2013, I was diagnosed with scarring on my right inner ear from a sinus infection. It severely affected my balance. My doctors felt that I would get better, but needed intensive specialized PT and OT to get there--to essentially rewire my brain around the scar tissue. But there wasn't an OT/PT in the DC area who did this kind of vestibular therapy. So the doctors from the WW center took me on. I saw their neurologists, ophthalmologists, PTs, OTs, etc. Every session, there was someone new observing my treatment so that they could help the soldiers, as so many come home with a variety of brain injuries. I'd like to see a much higher percentage of the donations go to WW itself. But I also know that the organization does a lot of good. And the employees are just incredible. The care and empathy displayed must take it's toll on those who see so much misery every day. Wow! That is really cool. I am happy to hear that WWP was able to help you. I think the publicity that WWP generates is a good thing. Not necessarily that bad that is coming out now, but the commercials and the presence that they have in our everyday experiences. That alone is enough for me to say bravo to them for bringing attention to the very real issues and problems that our veterans face when they return from active duty service. I hate what they have become, and I hate the real life anecdotals I hear from people that have dealt with them, but I do think that they have done some good. Without WWP, would we have organizations such as The Semper Fi Project or TAPS or any of the other smaller organizations that devote almost 100% of their resources to the needs of vets and their families? Maybe or maybe not, but the reality is the WWP DOES shed light on our vets and their visible and very invisible wounds they suffer from everyday. Hopefully, after all of this negative pub, they will switch gears and appoint some leadership that will bring them back to their original mission. TAPS was around before WWP, in the 1990s, and Semper Fi fund came around the same time as WWP.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 29, 2016 3:53:44 GMT
Just thought I'd give you a peek at what I did for 6 months up at Walter Reed's Wounded Warrior Center. There were 2 treadmills side by side and a platform that raised, lowered and tipped. I wore a safety harness to keep me from falling when a was dizzy. Basically, the movement on the screen was increased to create vertigo until I vomited, then it was stopped for 5-10 minutes, then repeated. It was pure torture. Walter Reed's Wounded Warrior Center is not part of the Wounded Warrior Project, it's a military run hospital... www.wwcc.capmed.mil/SitePages/WarriorCare.aspxTrue. But it's my understanding that the WWP gave a ton of money to the facility. I've used the WWC at Walter Reed and Ft Belvoir and they are really nice facilities. Not the usual type of medical facilities I'm used to, that for sure. Now I'm curious about the real stats. I may spend some time researching this tomorrow.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 29, 2016 9:54:19 GMT
True. But it's my understanding that the WWP gave a ton of money to the facility. I've used the WWC at Walter Reed and Ft Belvoir and they are really nice facilities. Not the usual type of medical facilities I'm used to, that for sure. Now I'm curious about the real stats. I may spend some time researching this tomorrow. Is that part of the Intrepid Center? BTW, I hope you are doing better. My husband struggles with vestibular issues, I know there are many challenges!
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 29, 2016 15:07:06 GMT
True. But it's my understanding that the WWP gave a ton of money to the facility. I've used the WWC at Walter Reed and Ft Belvoir and they are really nice facilities. Not the usual type of medical facilities I'm used to, that for sure. Now I'm curious about the real stats. I may spend some time researching this tomorrow. Is that part of the Intrepid Center? BTW, I hope you are doing better. My husband struggles with vestibular issues, I know there are many challenges! Yes, they got me to 90%. So much better than the 30% I started with! I still have trouble if my sinuses are congested, but nothing like when I first started. I believe it is part of the Intrepid Center. At least the Walter Reed one. The Belvoir one wasn't even open when I used that facility, so no signs yet. But the workers were great at both. In 18 months, don't think I ever waited 5 minutes past an appointment time, appointments were booked directly with the OTs and PTs and appointments were a full hour. We seldom saw other patients, so I wasn't vomiting with 10 others watching me. I did talk to one guy once about what kind of shoes I wore during PT (you had to wear shoes, but the soles had to be thin enough to feel the floor, grippy enough not to slip but not so grippy that you tripped, and support my arches because I'm not 20 anymore.) The PT didn't have him convinced and I was giving my testimonial to how great those shoes are. I still use them. (Merrell Bare Access with vibram soles. Light, thin soles, but still some cushion.)
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 29, 2016 17:00:49 GMT
That is good to know about the shoes, will pass along! The Intrepid Centers are funded by the Intrepid Fallen Hereos Fund, which is run by the Fishers, also of the Fisher Houses. For those looking to donate elsewhere then the WWP, the Intrepid Fallen Hereos Fund and Fisher House seem to be the real deal, with large percentages of donations going to tangible programs.
Looking around the WWP I can't even figure out what they actually "do" with what money is spent beyond fundraising/administration. A lot of terms thrown around, empowering, advocating etc. but what exactly is that?
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 29, 2016 17:44:21 GMT
That is good to know about the shoes, will pass along! The Intrepid Centers are funded by the Intrepid Fallen Hereos Fund, which is run by the Fishers, also of the Fisher Houses. For those looking to donate elsewhere then the WWP, the Intrepid Fallen Hereos Fund and Fisher House seem to be the real deal, with large percentages of donations going to tangible programs. Looking around the WWP I can't even figure out what they actually "do" with what money is spent beyond fundraising/administration. A lot of terms thrown around, empowering, advocating etc. but what exactly is that? I wish I had some extra time today to really find out about WWP, especially connected with the facilities that I used. I had thought that they were linked. My cognitive function was really impaired at the beginning of my injury, so a lot of details are more than a little fuzzy. I have a big work event that I'm coordinating tomorrow, but will look into this more. And check to see where our CFC (Combined Federal Campaign-takes money directly from our pay) money is going.
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Post by likescarrots on Jan 29, 2016 19:18:44 GMT
I've heard that several veteran's organizations have said that if they are offered any money from tonight's fundraiser they will not take it. They are very unhappy and feel that Mr. Trump has co-opted their issues for political gain and they do not like being used in that way. Frankly, I am really proud of them if they do that. He HAS co-opted what is otherwise a worthy cause to further try to gain points and deflect what is (to some) a toddler like tantrum to take his toys and go home because he isn't getting the kind of treatment he feels he deserves. I am a strong supporter of our military and think that Mr. Trump picked the wrong organization to try to make himself look good-all he did was make it look like he is a spoiled child who picked the group he thought would win himself the most points. Seriously, the balls on that asshole to say about john mccain 'i like people who weren't captured' and then turn around and use wounded veterans for his own publicity is utterly disgusting.
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Post by happymomma on Feb 7, 2016 8:15:07 GMT
I didn't know this about WW, thank you for posting. My husband is a disabled veteran and I can tell you that without question, mental health care is what they need. The physical wounds heal pretty fast, it's getting all the things these guys are asked to do out of their heads that is the tough part. Thanks all who listed alternative places to donate. :heart: I agree with you. I'm married to a Desert Storm Combat Vet who suffers from severe PTSD. 25 years later, it is a daily struggle. Please, pass along our thanks to your husband. I'm also thanking YOU, as I know how hard some days can be for the spouse. To to all of you who have stated on this thread that you support our Veterans...a teary-eyed sincere thank you. There are many causes these days that need support. I thank you for choosing Veterans. It's a crying shame indeed that our government isn't taking care of their needs, that all of these organizations even need to be formed. Yet, that's the reality and I'm so thankful for the many good ones that exist. Wounded Warrior Project is despicable. It equates to stealing from needy Veterans. I'm glad one of you was able to be helped, that's awesome, but think of how many more deserving soldiers could be helped if the money was spent as intended by so many kind and giving donors. I don't know how some people sleep at night.
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