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Post by beanbuddymom on Feb 10, 2016 18:34:16 GMT
DD is going to be 16 this year and has been working and starting to ask for more things, we are wanting her to start paying for things that she asks for that are extra. Up until now I have paid for her to have an iPhone and DH has balked, he says she should start paying for it. I hear other parents say they make their kids pay for them as well, but I am not sure what part or all of it - she only has about $400 total (worked part time last summer to get it) and won't work again until this summer more hours than last, and likely will make about $1000 over the summer after taxes. She is also going to start paying for her car insurance this summer which is aware of as well as she has been saving that money for that as well as putting it towards a car. So I feel awful draining her savings for a car to pay her phone bill but again, she needs to learn the value of money because lately she just keeps asking for more and more. The breakdown for the bill is paying for the actual phone (ATT Next, no free phones anymore boo) $22 then the phone line $25, then data $55. So total $102 a month for the next four months - that would drain her account until she got to work this summer. What do you make your kids pay for? Part of the phone bill? Which part? I am thinking the data part I guess, right? I was thinking data plus new phone as those are all "extra" and I would pay for the phone line, so data plus phone equals $77. But I don't know what the norm is. DH says the norm is kids not having phones so there's that  Sigh.
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Post by krc11 on Feb 10, 2016 18:42:29 GMT
I can't exactly remember when my kids were teens. It's been a while, but I think I bought them cheap flip phone originally so I could get in touch with them. When they didn't return my calls, they didn't get their phones and didn't go out. They only got XX minutes (before unlimited days). They paid overages. Then they wanted fancier phones - which they paid for but I still paid for the phone line. Then with text, I think I paid that. We didn't have data back then, or they didn't get it. I only paid for what I needed. Anything they wanted, they paid for or it could be given as their expensive Xmas or birthday gift. One year, I gave one a phone they wanted. One year I gave one 6 months of data. But that was deducted from their presents total. Oh, and if they broke or lost their phone, they paid for it. They have been pretty responsible.
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Post by krc11 on Feb 10, 2016 18:43:43 GMT
Adding to my answer - so if they are required to have data because of school now, then I'd probably pay for it. But if they just wanted to instagram, FB or snapchat, they'd pay for it.
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Post by freebird on Feb 10, 2016 18:49:43 GMT
I never paid *any* of my kids' cell phones. I figured if they wanted a phone, they would work, save, find something in their budget. Neither of them have an iphone still I don't think, and they are adults.
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Post by Flowergirl on Feb 10, 2016 18:52:08 GMT
We bought the DS20 and DD17 their iPhones as gifts over the last couple years. They pay a portion of the data...which I think ends up being $10-$15 each a month--I can't remember exactly--and we pay the remainder of the bill. When they need new phones, they will likely contribute a portion of the monthly cost of the phone as well since ATT (or Verizon) no longer discounts the phones when you sign a contract. Both are fulltime college/HS students that have part time jobs that take care of things like gifts for friends, activities with friends, car insurance (DS) and DD paid for half of the trip to Italy she left for today.
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Post by jamielynn on Feb 10, 2016 18:53:44 GMT
My parents never covered my phone but it wasnt required for school.
I bought my car and they covered the insurance as long as there were no accidents, I had good grades and then they just continued until I bought a new car at age 23/24 of my choice.
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Post by zztop11 on Feb 10, 2016 18:54:36 GMT
She needs to pay for it. She doesn't need such as expensive plan. When my daughter turned 16, her uncle surprised her with a car for her birthday. Of course, she was over the moon but new that it came with responsibilities. She got a job to pay for insurance. Since your daughter isn't going to work until the summer, why can't she babysit to earn some money? Do extra chores around the house and work for you? There is always something that can be done in situations. Just be creative. She may not earn all the money she needs, but she will get a sense of what it means to be responsible for your own bills.
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Post by kels99 on Feb 10, 2016 18:54:54 GMT
We bought our kids basic smart phones (in the $100 range) and if they want to upgrade, it's on them.
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Post by Scrapbrat on Feb 10, 2016 19:00:13 GMT
Why don't you come up with a monthly amount that you think will accomplish your goals for her (help her to learn the value of money, etc.), but not totally deplete her account (since she is saving up for a large purchase, which is probably behavior you want to encourage) and then just have her pay that amount toward the phone bill? You can nicely let her know that her phone REALLY costs $102/month, and you are generously not making her pay the whole thing.
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Post by Zee on Feb 10, 2016 19:01:17 GMT
What things is she asking for that are extra? Maybe she should pay for those things instead of the phone.
I will admit right now that I have a hard time making my kids pay for things. DH and I had to pay for everything we wanted, besides the bare basics, when we were kids because there just wasn't extra money. Now that we live more comfortably than our parents, we're both really soft on buying our kids things. They're not terribly spoiled but they also have never had to do without. I know we probably haven't done them any favors, but then again, the real world will be harsh enough all too soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 19:05:31 GMT
Back in the dark ages I paid for the kid's cell phone because I wanted them to have it. It existed for my peace of mind and my convenience.
So, I took things from the perspective of what do I get out of them having ____ ? So I would cover basic phone/messaging because I get to be in easy contact with them. A data plan is more nebulous in how much it benefits me to pay for it... it is good for them to have access and learn about (like not going over!) and it may be useful for school. So I probably would pay part of it. I wouldn't have them pay so much they drain their savings. IMO, providing things is part of being a parent. I might only make them responsible for paying overages.
For their car, again, I benefited by not having to take them places, pick them up and they could run errands for me. So I paid the car and basic insurance. I wanted them to learn to drive and manage a car while they were home under my influence. Any rise in insurance due to their willful negligence behind the wheel was on them. I also provided a basic gas allowance and if they went further than that they covered the extra.
How much they pay has to be balanced with what work resources they have for earning money, what standard of living we have as a family, what I want them to learn about savings! IMO, it can quickly get to be asinine behavior on the parent's part to expect a teen to pay for things that have become part of normal societal expectations.
I think a part of learning the value of money is not only being responsible to pay for some things but also being allowed to EARN money. So, what does the h have in mind for her to be able to earn the money for things she needs/wants. Or does he just feel like being a jerk and telling her she can't enjoy things her peers do?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 10, 2016 19:10:34 GMT
What about having her pay for these extras she's asking for? I gave my daughter a smart phone as a gift for her birthday. We share data, and the extra line is $20 which I pay. It was MY financial decision to purchase the phone, so I really don't see that as her obligation.. If she ever wants more data or to upgrade her phone, I would expect her to pay for it. What was the agreement when you bought the phone? Did she price compare plans? I am all for kids paying their way and understanding the value of money, but don't know that I would thrust a financial contract I made onto my child if they weren't involved in the process and agreed from the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 19:11:25 GMT
We pay for my son's phone. It is a cheap slide out phone with no data. He said he wants to buy his friends old iphone. He will be responsible for the extra data he wants. He has a part time job. He has a laptop, kindle, and a Nintendo 3DS (not sure if that's the exact name) that all have internet. He's allowed to use his laptop at school. He does not need data on his phone.
I balked at not getting him one for a long time and the biggest reason we pay for his phone is because very few people own landlines. When he is stuck at school or in town and needs a ride home, there's no pay phone to call home. I also learned that you can't rely on his friends to answer a text or call you back. It happened so often before he got one!
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Post by Really Red on Feb 10, 2016 19:20:00 GMT
Color me impressed by all of you who ask your kids to pay for their phone. I did not (and do not - they're still teens). I have a lot of expectations of my kids, chores-wise, which includes grocery shopping, picking up their younger brother, cooking dinner and a once-a-month Family Cleaning Day (6 hours or so). They don't get allowances, but I pay for insurance, a car (not gas) and a phone. And the phone and the car are their buttons. I've only had to take them away once.
I think you're all smart to start off this way.
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Post by Kerri W on Feb 10, 2016 19:27:51 GMT
We pay for the phone and a decent service package for all of our kids since we don't have a home phone and it was our choice to go to all cells. We also pay for other basic things that *we* choose to provide them with but we do ask them to pay for the "extras."
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Post by psiluvu on Feb 10, 2016 19:28:37 GMT
We pay for both kids iphones. They are about $80.00 each a month as part of a family plan that included DH and I
That being said DD(16) works part time during the school year at a bowling alley and full time during the summer as a counsellor and has managed to save almost $5000.00. Ds (12) shovels snow and timekeeps for hockey and has saved almost $1000.00. Maybe if they were spending money foolishly we would make them pay but for now we ay all of it.
ETA DD did pay $100.00 for an upgrade from a 4 to a 5s
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Post by Country Ham on Feb 10, 2016 19:31:15 GMT
Adding to my answer - so if they are required to have data because of school now, then I'd probably pay for it. But if they just wanted to instagram, FB or snapchat, they'd pay for it. If kids were required to have data for school wouldn't the school be furnishing the kids with devices to access the net? That expense wouldn't fall on families would it? Some folks can't afford smart devices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 19:40:30 GMT
Adding to my answer - so if they are required to have data because of school now, then I'd probably pay for it. But if they just wanted to instagram, FB or snapchat, they'd pay for it. If kids were required to have data for school wouldn't the school be furnishing the kids with devices to access the net? That expense wouldn't fall on families would it? Some folks can't afford smart devices. Schools often have options for kids with financial need (if they are eligible for free or reduced lunch is a common factor), but many schools expect the use of some kind of smartphone/tablet/computer at home without providing the actual devices or internet access. It's up to families to figure it out if it's not a school that provides 1:1 devices (some do, but not that many in the grand scheme of things).
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 10, 2016 19:49:07 GMT
I would have dd look into whether it would be cheaper to have her own disposible phone or the amount you are coming up with. I'm not such what the price of those are, but $77 a month seems like a lot of money from a part time seasonal worker.
We aren't having our 16 yr old pay for her phone. She doesn't have a job, her job is her education (school, DECA, 4-H, etc). We also like her having a phone so it's for us as much as it's for her. I also don't feel comfortable teaching her to use her savings for daily expenses.
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Post by sphmaz on Feb 10, 2016 19:49:26 GMT
We are on the ATT Next plan also. My DS (16) wanted a new phone (he had iPhone and wanted to get new Samsung) so I told him he's free to get it as long as he pays for it. We pay for the plan (data, text, etc.) but he pays the $20 a month for his phone until it's paid off. He is working regularly (about 12-15hrs a week) though so that's a little different than your DD. He also referees soccer in the spring/summer/fall. He's also aware that he will be paying for insurance when he decides to become a driver (no permit or interest in it as of yet!).
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Post by hdoublej on Feb 10, 2016 19:51:29 GMT
The rule in our house is that we provide the kids with a basic phone. If they want a smart phone then it is on them to pay for it. Right now, DD17 is the only one this effects. She pays about $40 a month, that gets her 2G of data and the phone. We pay the line fee because we would have paid for it if wasn't a smart phone. She also pays for her car but we pay for insurance. 2G is more than enough data for her since she uses wifi when she's at home and most places have wifi that she goes to.
She works for a fast food chain restaurant to pay for her phone and car. We wanted her to work around 20 hours a week and that would be more than enough for her to make the payments she has. The battle we are facing is that they are scheduling her for around 30 hours per week! She has recently been promoted to assistant manager. We are very proud of her work ethic but a little frustrated as she is completely worn out but they continue to give her more hours. She is a high school student and taking 4 college classes as well as working! Anyway, that's a whole 'nuther thread lol. My point is our plan has back fired slightly. Would I change the decision to have her pay for her phone? No. Would I have her work somewhere else? Absolutely! (If there was somewhere else for her to go in our small town, that is.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 19:56:06 GMT
I'd look for a better plan. That's a lot for a single phone. If you're going to make a teen pay for their own phone, I think there's a responsibility to shop for the best plan instead of sticking with what's convenient for the parents.
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Post by peaname on Feb 10, 2016 20:01:16 GMT
I think you should look into a cheaper plan. We have three iPhones on Cricket (AT&T's network) for $90 total per month includes unlimited talk and text and 2 gb of data each per month. No extra fees.
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Post by cakediva on Feb 10, 2016 20:05:02 GMT
That is one heck of a phone bill!
Both my girls have iPhones and pay the full bill themselves. One is on a $45/month plan, the other a $55/month plan. They get a certain amount of data and unlimited texting each month for that. They both have jobs and wanted the fancy phone, so their bill.
DS just got his first phone, we pay for that. Basic model, $25/month plan (no data, unlimited texting) plus $10/month for the phone itself. The minute he wants the fancy data plan, he gets a job and pays it himself.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 10, 2016 20:17:58 GMT
I'd look for a better plan. That's a lot for a single phone. If you're going to make a teen pay for their own phone, I think there's a responsibility to shop for the best plan instead of sticking with what's convenient for the parents. It felt like a lot to me for someone with limited income too. But I don't know about the various plans out there. We've stuck with Verizon because of the good outback coverage!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 20:22:27 GMT
I'd look for a better plan. That's a lot for a single phone. If you're going to make a teen pay for their own phone, I think there's a responsibility to shop for the best plan instead of sticking with what's convenient for the parents. It felt like a lot to me for someone with limited income too. But I don't know about the various plans out there. We've stuck with Verizon because of the good outback coverage! We are also stuck with Verizon for the same reason, but we barely pay more than the OP's daughter's plan for two iPhones, two iPads, and 12 GB of shared data. (I do get a 22% discount from my employer.) Over $100/mo for one phone is way too much IMO.
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Post by JustTricia on Feb 10, 2016 20:40:59 GMT
That's HER portion? $55 for data is all hers?
What was the agreement before she got the phone? Did you tell her she was going to have to pay some or all of it, or will this be out of the blue? I would have a really hard time with asking her to pay $100 a month after you've been paying for it so far. Maybe she would have gone for an older phone or less data if she knew she was going to have to pay.
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