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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 12, 2016 12:00:13 GMT
Holy smokes. In part: (from ESPN link) Facing a budget crisis, Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards says higher education in the state could be compromised. And that includes the possibility of college athletics in Louisiana being canceled.In a statewide televised address Thursday, Edwards said campuses could run out of money and be forced to shut down in April, highlighting the LSU football team as one of the potential losses from massive cuts to higher education funding."If you are a student attending one of these universities, it means that you will receive a grade of incomplete, many students will not be able to graduate, and student-athletes across the state at those schools will be ineligible to play next semester," Edwards said, according to The Times-Picayune. "That means you can say farewell to college football next fall."(I know it is a scare tactic, but didn't anyone warn him about the almighty wrath of SEC fans when someone messes with their football??? )
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Post by SabrinaM on Feb 12, 2016 12:33:19 GMT
He's a moron.
ETA- Athletics is a HUGE moneymaker for La schools. Huge.
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Post by iowgirl on Feb 12, 2016 13:15:06 GMT
I could be wrong - but I though most college athletic, especially football, were self funded. I would think football would be the very last thing to go.
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Post by JustTricia on Feb 12, 2016 13:22:28 GMT
I could be wrong - but I though most college athletic, especially football, were self funded. I would think football would be the very last thing to go. I would also guess that some alumni donations colleges receive are due to graduates loving the athletics side. They probably donate to the program and also to the school. Stop the athletics, I bet their donations drop as well.
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Post by sabrinae on Feb 12, 2016 13:29:16 GMT
I could be wrong - but I though most college athletic, especially football, were self funded. I would think football would be the very last thing to go. Most schools subsidize athletics out of general fees. Only a small percentage of schools actually make money or break even and those are the schools with major football and/or men's basketball programs. Ohio State, LSU,Alabama etc. those schools make money and do subsidize other programs within their conference as well bc of money sharing agreements. Those schools are also able to run the other athletic programs at the school with income from their football and or basketball.
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 12, 2016 14:23:24 GMT
It's sad that he's focusing on athletics when there are more important and pressing issues regarding post secondary education and the possibility of a campus shutting down leaving students in the lurch. It's a sad statement when sport trumps education as a concern. Sports should be the last thing that anyone is concerned about when it comes to education.
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Post by iowgirl on Feb 12, 2016 14:28:00 GMT
Only a small percentage of schools actually make money or break even and those are the schools with major football and/or men's basketball programs. I guess that is what I was thinking of - more the D1 schools, I guess. I really didn't think about the smaller schools. I am blown away by the amount of money given to some of these programs sometimes by donors. Wow. To have that kind of dough! LOL
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 12, 2016 14:37:16 GMT
It's sad that he's focusing on athletics when there are more important and pressing issues regarding post secondary education and the possibility of a campus shutting down leaving students in the lurch. It's a sad statement when sport trumps education as a concern. Sports should be the last thing that anyone is concerned about when it comes to education. In all fairness to the governor, he also talked about how students at state run colleges/universities could be effected by not being able to graduate, receive grades, etc. The sports program threat was icing on the cake and my guess was designed specifically to elicit a response from the alumni. (Personally, I have a kid at LSU and closing the school would have a direct and immediate impact on my family. I worry less about the football program than I do the kid actually being able to attend classes. Or in his case, the option of him being able to attend classes in between parties and football. )
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Post by maryland on Feb 12, 2016 15:03:24 GMT
That's terrible! I have a college freshman (not it LA) and that would be terrible if the kids got incomplete after working hard all semester. We pay a ton of money (out of state tuition is $$$$). Do parents get a refund for the semester? I hope I am totally reading it wrong! I am known to do that!
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Post by maryland on Feb 12, 2016 15:05:35 GMT
It's sad that he's focusing on athletics when there are more important and pressing issues regarding post secondary education and the possibility of a campus shutting down leaving students in the lurch. It's a sad statement when sport trumps education as a concern. Sports should be the last thing that anyone is concerned about when it comes to education. In all fairness to the governor, he also talked about how students at state run colleges/universities could be effected by not being able to graduate, receive grades, etc. The sports program threat was icing on the cake and my guess was designed specifically to elicit a response from the alumni. (Personally, I have a kid at LSU and closing the school would have a direct and immediate impact on my family. I worry less about the football program than I do the kid actually being able to attend classes. Or in his case, the option of him being able to attend classes in between parties and football. ) As much as I love college sports (I was on the pom-pom squad at my large university and we performed at all football/basketball games), the students come first to me. I agree with you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 15:08:26 GMT
Somebody is smoking crack. Division 1 college football programs bring revenue into the schools, especially in the SEC.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 12, 2016 15:38:19 GMT
It's sad that he's focusing on athletics when there are more important and pressing issues regarding post secondary education and the possibility of a campus shutting down leaving students in the lurch. It's a sad statement when sport trumps education as a concern. Sports should be the last thing that anyone is concerned about when it comes to education. LSU football gives LSU millions of dollars every year for academics. Like a previous poster said, he's a moron. That's what they get for electing the son of Edwin Edwards.
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Post by valleyview on Feb 12, 2016 15:47:48 GMT
Somebody is smoking crack. Division 1 college football programs bring revenue into the schools, especially in the SEC. No, they don't. The Washington Post ran a series about the crazy things that are running up the costs in college sports in December. It's actually very shocking. Because they believe that student athletes will not attend, they pour money into facilities and more staff. It seems like athletic departments are finding new ways to not only raise student fees, but to keep money out of general funds. I'm afraid that we will be seeing more of this. State university funding is constantly being cut. Schools are finding money by hiring adjunct professors and recruiting out of state students who pay more. LSU is doubtfully the only major university that is having a rough time.
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Post by valleyview on Feb 12, 2016 15:50:56 GMT
It's sad that he's focusing on athletics when there are more important and pressing issues regarding post secondary education and the possibility of a campus shutting down leaving students in the lurch. It's a sad statement when sport trumps education as a concern. Sports should be the last thing that anyone is concerned about when it comes to education. LSU football gives LSU millions of dollars every year for academics. Like a previous poster said, he's a moron. That's what they get for electing the son of Edwin Edwards. Didn't Edwards inherit the mess created or ignored by Jindal?
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 12, 2016 16:10:45 GMT
LSU football gives LSU millions of dollars every year for academics. Like a previous poster said, he's a moron. That's what they get for electing the son of Edwin Edwards. Didn't Edwards inherit the mess created or ignored by Jindal? Probably. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the current price of oil.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 16:33:43 GMT
Somebody is smoking crack. Division 1 college football programs bring revenue into the schools, especially in the SEC. No, they don't. The Washington Post ran a series about the crazy things that are running up the costs in college sports in December. It's actually very shocking. Because they believe that student athletes will not attend, they pour money into facilities and more staff. It seems like athletic departments are finding new ways to not only raise student fees, but to keep money out of general funds. I'm afraid that we will be seeing more of this. State university funding is constantly being cut. Schools are finding money by hiring adjunct professors and recruiting out of state students who pay more. LSU is doubtfully the only major university that is having a rough time. If you go back and look at the article you reference you can see the SEC and Big 12 schools are mostly in the black, including LSU. Granted my view is slanted because I live in Texas where SEC and Big 12 are prevalent. The same article also states that the "Other" category of spending has seen the biggest increase of spending over the past 10 years. Where is that money going?
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Post by valleyview on Feb 12, 2016 16:50:28 GMT
Good question, @pinkshirley! I guess at Auburn it was $12 million for a TV monitor.
Did you find the whole series of articles? It's astounding that no one is stopping the spending! I was amazed.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 12, 2016 23:32:04 GMT
He's a moron. ETA- Athletics is a HUGE moneymaker for La schools. Huge. His comments aren't about funding athletics. They are about funding academics, which involves way more money than what is generated by athletics. I believe his point is that if they have to cut the academic budget to the point that classes are cancelled, student athletes will be among the casualties, and if they are academically ineligible per NCAA rules, there will be no football, basketball, or other athletic teams. LSU can't keep academic programs/classes in place for athletes and cancel them for all other students. Big no-no under NCAA regs to provide athlete-only classes.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 13, 2016 0:58:29 GMT
There is so much graft,corruption and excessive waste in Louisiana government. I met DH while a on business trip to San Francisco. I was representing the Trust Department of the bank I worked for in a bond closing. It was State of Louisiana bonds. There must have been 30 of us (just two of us representing the bank) the rest employees of the state. It was appalling to me how much money they spent on that trip. We could stay anywhere we wanted so I booked a room at the Westin St. Francis at Union Square. They charted a 75-foot yacht on the Bay to take us on a night cruise. They served us a dinner on board that was unbelievable. And this happened for every bond closing. Lots of them. Me thinks there are lots of things the governor could pick on before education. I think waste and the way things are handled in pretty much everything every state and the federal government does is appalling. But pretty much everyone's answer is *it's a drop in the bucket*. Well, pretty soon the bucket is full.
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