AllieC
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Post by AllieC on Feb 13, 2016 23:58:55 GMT
Pretty much every person I know in this situation has given the child the fathers name. Ditto to hundreds of families that I deal with through work. Can get confusing when there are multiple fathers but it seems to be the norm to have the fathers name.
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Post by GiantsFan on Feb 14, 2016 0:06:53 GMT
Of course they would have his last name he is the father. I don't understand why you are floored.
My DH and I were not married when I gave birth to our (stillborn) twin boys. Their marker has his last name. We never considered otherwise.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 14, 2016 0:11:48 GMT
I didn't read all of the responses and am ready to be flamed for this BUT....
I was with my ds' father for 5 years before he was born. I gave him his dad's name. We split 2 months after his birth and his father went ballistic, fought for full custody and then when lost went on his merry way(symptomatic of his control issues, once he was awarded visitation and not full custody he left and never came back). I changed my child's name at a year old to have my last name. Frankly, I have never regretted it. I feel that if the parents are not married the baby gets the mother's last name and if they marry later, name changes are easily enough done.
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Post by Nink on Feb 14, 2016 0:19:12 GMT
I got pregnant with DS at the age of 19. His dad wanted nothing to do with it once he found out I was pregnant. Although he did so "generously" offer to pay the full amount of an abortion instead of us each paying half. So DS has my maiden name as his last name. In Oregon during the 80's, you could not give the child the fathers last name without his consent. But I wouldn't have regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 0:29:52 GMT
DH said that for him, it would be a deal breaker had we not been married, nor would he have gotten married early,simply because we were pregnant, but he would've had we already been actively planning the wedding. DH and I are very old fashioned people and I know that. It's just intriguing to me and he's very much like "what does it matter" but I honestly want to get to a resolution. It's almost like we HAVE to work this through so humor my ridiculous antics DH said he would not be down for hyphenation. His name or the high way. Now if only he could this controlling in bed! It would be interesting to me to know how this would play out in a court situation. I'll have to do some research. I guess I question the 'old-fashioned values' of someone that would take his child's mother to court over the name. This is a pretty frivolous use the court, I think, and if one is so 'old-fashioned' I would not think an out of wedlock pregnancy would be something to worry about.
It does not matter what name the kid has, child support would still be required, and what's he going to do, not love/support/claim a child that does not have his name? That's a character issue.
No, I asked the same question to DH..and he said that he would still love and support the kid, but I guess since I didn't respect him enough as a man to have that connection to our child, it would be a deal breaker for him and me. I don't know. I was gone for a bit today visiting with said niece and baby and now I come back to a 3 pager and feel a bit silly for this whole "what if" situation. Intriguing nevertheless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 0:31:47 GMT
Of course they would have his last name he is the father. I don't understand why you are floored. My DH and I were not married when I gave birth to our (stillborn) twin boys. Their marker has his last name. We never considered otherwise. My issue is that I would not have the same last name as my child. I wouldn't be comfortable with that. It seems that I'm in the minority when it comes to that though.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 14, 2016 2:32:13 GMT
I've been married over 30 years. I never changed my last name to my husband's. All our children have my last name as their middle name, and DH's last name. It's never been a problem, though I'm sure some people have assumed we're not married or that we're a blended family. Those assumptions have never bothered any of us.
(I never wanted to hyphenate our names because the resulting name would be too long.)
The kids have told us that the last name "issue" doesn't bother them. They do know other families with multiple last names (for whatever reasons), which likely helps normalize their own family nomenclature.
Having said all that, I'm pretty sure I'd give any kids I had while unmarried my own last name (unless I hated my last name lol).
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Post by padresfan619 on Feb 14, 2016 2:34:09 GMT
If a man didn't want to marry me, I would realize this relationship may not be long term and I would give the baby my name so when his/her teacher addresses me it won't be by Mrs. Lastname that's not mine. I would at least want a courthouse marriage before birth. We can have the formal wedding after I've lost the baby weight. Also if we weren't married, under no circumstance would I name a boy after his father. I'm thinking of the singer Ciara who named her son Future after his asshole father. In case you don't follow, she's now dating a baseball player and the rapper Future constantly attacks her on social media for having another man around her son. I guess if she's dumb enough to get pregnant by a man with multiple kids by various woman, no surprise she's dumb enough to name her child Future. Russel Wilson is a football player...he's the quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on Feb 14, 2016 2:51:23 GMT
My kids have their father's last name. I knew i would change mine eventually to his. I don't particularly like my last name and I preferred they have his.
Our friend is going through courts to have his son's name changed. The mother gave him her name and he wants it hyphenated. They have a shitload of problems between them, and the mom is more than a little crazy. It's not a hill I would die on but he's pretty adamant about it.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 14, 2016 3:21:35 GMT
A relative in our family who has 2 DD by different fathers both have their (different) fathers last name however DD #1 calls him Dad (her father was a douche and stopped seeing her around she 3) and father of 2nd has been there since then.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 14, 2016 3:25:05 GMT
I don't know of any state court that would give the father of a child with an unmarried mother the last name of the father over the mother's objection.
If people choose to give the child the father's name fine but I don't think the father has an absolute right to have the child carry his surname. If that was a deal breaker for the guy, I'd say goodby and good riddance.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 14, 2016 3:29:21 GMT
Why not? Especially in the event of parents who are not married.
While I understand this, I don't see then why, in these modern times, you eschew the tradition of marriage yet you feel the need to stick to the tradition of giving the child the father's name.
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Post by anniefb on Feb 14, 2016 3:46:43 GMT
Hyphenated names are most common here in New Zealand.
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Post by bunnyhug on Feb 14, 2016 4:10:49 GMT
I didn't change my name when I got married (and btw, it's just 'my name' NOT 'my maiden name'--I have never been and will never be a maiden, and using that term actually offends me), and my three kids all have their dad's name. It's never once been any kind of a problem, and my kids really don't care that my last name is different than theirs. Actually, they attend French Immersion schools, and I'd say well over half of the kids have parents with different last names--lots of 'academic' parents, for lack of a better term. Our teachers are smart enough to look at a kid's cumulative record before calling or writing a parent, so they generally call everybody by the right name--actually, since lots of them are from Quebec (where women routinely do not change their names at marriage), a good chunk of our teachers have a couple different surnames in their families, too ...
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Post by my3freaks on Feb 14, 2016 4:26:18 GMT
I think it is up to the woman to decide what name her child will carry and why... and the "why" can be as simple as she likes one last name over the other because it sounds more pleasing or is easier to pronounce/spell/remember.  It's the fathers child too, whether the parents are married or not, so unless he isn't in the picture b/c he's a scumbag, he should have as much say about naming the baby as the mother does, IMO. If I can't commit (or he can't commit) to marry a man, there is no way I could commit my child to him by giving my baby his name ! I don't understand this. First there's the "commit my child to him", when it's his child too, unless there was some immaculate conception going on. If you (general you) don't think he's worthy of giving the child his name, how on earth is he be worthy enough to be the father of the child in the first place?
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Feb 14, 2016 5:21:06 GMT
I may have been watching one too many Maury shows, but it seems that lots of people have babies with out a relationship with the father. I believe that babies that are born in to this kind of a situation are going to need extra support along the line...not just financial support.
I know that things happen, people die, and that it's hard to be in a relationship if you are immature but once a baby is born, it's a whole different world.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 14, 2016 5:45:01 GMT
And if the parents disagree as to the surname, who wins? Right now whenever there's a hyphenated name, the father's name is presumed to be the actual last name. Why not the mom's? So if Jane Doe and John Smith have a child, why must it be Child Doe-Smith instead of Child Smith-Doe?
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Post by hannahruth on Feb 14, 2016 5:49:18 GMT
Our DD has been in a long term relationship and has three children with her SO. All the childen have his surname as he is the registered father.
It is quite common for that to happen here (in Australia) but would not think it strange for a child to have the mother's name either.
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 14, 2016 5:59:07 GMT
On the subject of hyphenation, what happens if two hyphenators get married and have children and want to hyphenate? Does that child now have 4 last names all hyphenated together? Traditional hyphenation rules would say the children of two hyphenated parents would be named the hyphenated name of the paternal line. so Bob Smith and Daisy Jones have Robert Smith-Jones and Bill Brown and Betty White have Lizzy Brown-White, if Robert Smith-Jones marries Lizzy Brown-White and has children the children (traditionally) would become Child Smith-Brown. My daughter has my grandson... his dad was not around during the pregnancy or birth... so she gave grandson our last name... he is 4 n daughter took dad to court for child support... he petitioned to have grandsons last name changed to his.. daughter tried to fight n judge ruled in favor of bio dad... so at 4 n pre-k grandsons last name is being changed... she was upset but we are just trying to be happy bio dad is wanting to be part of grandsons life... that seems really odd and why not hyphenate?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 9:26:50 GMT
My daughter has my grandson... his dad was not around during the pregnancy or birth... so she gave grandson our last name... he is 4 n daughter took dad to court for child support... he petitioned to have grandsons last name changed to his.. daughter tried to fight n judge ruled in favor of bio dad... so at 4 n pre-k grandsons last name is being changed... she was upset but we are just trying to be happy bio dad is wanting to be part of grandsons life... That judge is crazy. I'd appeal that decision. Just cuz dad decided to step up four years later. Guarantee that judge was a man.
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Post by anaterra on Feb 14, 2016 10:18:35 GMT
I'm not sure why they aren't going to hyphenate his name... but at the time of birth... the birth certificate says mother my daughter.. father unknown.. when they finally went to court over it.. father is going to be added to bc and grandson will have his last name changed... the judge is male n in texas... and that us what he has decided..
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Post by anaterra on Feb 14, 2016 10:22:03 GMT
I don't know of any state court that would give the father of a child with an unmarried mother the last name of the father over the mother's objection. If people choose to give the child the father's name fine but I don't think the father has an absolute right to have the child carry his surname. If that was a deal breaker for the guy, I'd say goodby and good riddance. Texas.. I don't want to give our city or county... but there ya go
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Post by Nicole in TX on Feb 14, 2016 12:45:52 GMT
On a side note, every single kid that I have taught (except one) that has had a hyphenated last name has thought the world revolved around them.
My vote is to pick a name and get over it.
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Post by AnotherPea on Feb 14, 2016 13:08:15 GMT
I am 30 weeks pregnant and got married last night because it is important to me that all 3 of us have the same last name and I wanted to be married prior to giving birth. We'd been engaged for almost 3 years and put off planning a big wedding in the hopes of getting pregnant. Had we not gotten married prior, I would give the baby his last name at birth. Congrats!
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 14, 2016 13:31:02 GMT
I don't know of any state court that would give the father of a child with an unmarried mother the last name of the father over the mother's objection. If people choose to give the child the father's name fine but I don't think the father has an absolute right to have the child carry his surname. If that was a deal breaker for the guy, I'd say goodby and good riddance. I was in the process of getting divorced when my youngest was born. The nurse was aware of it, I had the same angel throughout the process so she was around for the weirdness that was the joy of a baby and the sadness of a cheating SOB of a father that had to be called from his already finance's house to attend the birth of said baby. I remember lying in the hospital bed, snuggling the baby and the nurse/hospital attendant asking me how to fill out the paperwork for his name and when I asked how much input the dad had, they told me essentially I was there, I gave birth and I could do what I wanted. Granted, in my position we were still technically married, so naming him father was pretty much a done deal, but as far as the name went, I was told I could pretty much do what I wanted. So I did. He does have his father's last name, but he had zero input on the rest of his name. He learned about it the next day after all the paperwork was done.
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Post by kelbel827 on Feb 14, 2016 14:04:55 GMT
my son has my name
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Post by gar on Feb 14, 2016 14:20:19 GMT
On a side note, every single kid that I have taught (except one) that has had a hyphenated last name has thought the world revolved around them. That's weird. Why do you think that is? Were all the kids with non hyphenated last names well 'behaved'?
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 14, 2016 14:38:18 GMT
I'm married, and was when my kids were born, but my kids have both last names, hyphenated. I have my name, dh has his. If I wasn't married...I don't know, actually, if I would hyphenate. Probably, it's still his kid, but somehow it seems more realistic or something (I am searching for the right word here!) to just give the kid the moms name. I would have to explore why I feel that way.
My kids are 14 and 17 and at times (like today!) yes, these hyphenated kids do seem to think the world revolves around them. I tend to think its because they are teenage girls, but who knows, maybe it was the hyphen!
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Post by styxgirl on Feb 14, 2016 14:49:42 GMT
In almost all the families I know where the mom hasn't changed her name (and I hyphenated mine), the kids have the dad's last name. This.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Feb 14, 2016 16:10:47 GMT
I have sat on this for a few days and keep opening it and rereading it over and over. I am an adult that had sex with another adult and had a oops baby. She was always her daddy's baby and so there for she had her daddy's last name. it didn't matter if I had his last name or not.
You have no right to tell these people what last name the baby will have it is not your baby. I can relate with you not liking the dad. but he is the dad and it is his right to have his baby have his last name. and if that his their choice than that is their choice. and no court in the country is going to agree with you on this.
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