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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 0:39:57 GMT
It takes two to tango. It seems your total focus is on her. It should be on the one who destroyed your life and family. If it wasn't her it could have been someone else. Read my previous thread, I kicked him out immediately and realize he is to blame. I think the fact that I just discovered the infidelity less than a week ago and could tell by the messages she knew he was married gives me the right to have a bit of anger towards her, too.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 28, 2014 1:03:07 GMT
I'm really sorry, but I can't read your thread because your avatar is too distracting. WTeverlovingF? ?
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Post by scrapaddie on Jul 28, 2014 1:05:24 GMT
"I know that you're really raw right now, but I just have to go ahead and say this. You need to stop focusing on that girl, and turn all your energy toward making things ok for you and your daughter. It's totally understandable to be consumed with all of it right at first, but knowing all the details of this person's sleazy life is not going to help you in any way. It won't tell you why, and it won't make things any easier to understand or to bear." ----------------------------------------------- This bears repeating. You are still WAY to invested, and way too....gossipy? ah...? trash digging at this point. Just step back, and get out of it. Otherwise it will drive you nuts. Give him the ipod. Do NOT charge it to look up more stuff. WHO cares. Anything that is on it, will be of no use in any divorce or custody hearing. Unless he is abusing your dd, or you, it won't matter. Start moving on, and leaving all the garbage behind. I was reading through the posts and think what the above Poster said. You are focusing on her, but she didn't break trust with you and your family. Let it go and get out as whole as you can , because this investment in her is hurting you
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Post by peace on Jul 28, 2014 1:16:03 GMT
I know you are blaming the husband BUT stop with the tramp slut stuff. It doesn't help YOU. She is really just a dumb kid. Who knows what your sbxh told her? She isn't a saint but she's not the one that promised to love and cherish you, HE is. Place ALL of the blame on him. BTW, I am getting divorced right now and although my situation is different, I decided long ago, I can only blame the one that betrayed me. I wish you peace. it sucks.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 28, 2014 1:18:58 GMT
I'm really sorry, but I can't read your thread because your avatar is too distracting. Yet you felt the need to share that little tidbit. What exactly is your expectation here? That she remove her avatar so that you can bless her with a thoughtful reading of her post? Maybe she can wait on bated breath for an equally thoughtful response? Holy freaking solipsism! eta* for the OP. I agree with much of what others have posted here and it seems you are taking some healthy steps. Hugs, chiclet.
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Post by megop on Jul 28, 2014 1:32:20 GMT
If IPOD method of contact with infidelity partner, DO NOT GIVE IT UP.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 28, 2014 1:32:45 GMT
It takes two to tango. It seems your total focus is on her. It should be on the one who destroyed your life and family. If it wasn't her it could have been someone else. Read my previous thread, I kicked him out immediately and realize he is to blame. I think the fact that I just discovered the infidelity less than a week ago and could tell by the messages she knew he was married gives me the right to have a bit of anger towards her, too. You're going to have anger at a lot of people and things for a while. It's normal. And sometimes it is almost easier to get mad at the woman who was with him. That doesn't mean you don't know where the real blame lies - with him. You may still go back and forth on who you blame the most. But bottom line you know he was the one who made the vows to you, not her. I called this first few months after discovering my ex (the one I did marry and the father of my son) was cheating "crazy time" because I really felt crazy, did a few crazy things, and sure thought a lot of crazy thoughts over that period of time. You've had your whole life turned upside down. But you can turn it back up and make it better. And I'm sure you will. I just got back from driving to my sister's house in Ventura to pick my mom up. It was a 3-hour drive up there. As I was driving, a thought popped into my head about you. My sister is a nurse. She was engaged to a guy that was fast becoming an alcoholic and it scared her. She broke their engagement and forced herself to move on. She didn't want that kind of a life. She was scared and unsure when she did it, but wanted a better life than living with an alcoholic for the rest of it. Right after they broke up, my sister started nursing school. As a nurse, of course you are working with doctors all day. She ended up married to one. Her house is right on the beach in a private gated community. You can hear the ocean all night from any of the bedrooms in the house. Her back deck stretches from one end of her property to the other. And right off the deck is the sand and shoreline. She has quite the pampered life. I thought of the correlation between where you are and where my sister was. You may end up married to a doctor and have a very wonderful future together like my sister did. (Unfortunately my sister is a huge B, but she does have a great life with no major worries) So when you are having a down moment and thinking about your STBX, think of who may be in your future. Start making a mental list of what you have learned from this marriage and what you want in the next one. That's a lot better than dwelling on the painful situation you are currently in right?
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 1:45:16 GMT
Thank you Lexica, that's a great scenario to imagine. Your words and advice have been very helpful to me this week. It is not something any woman would ever want to go through, but it is good to have people who have been there and understand.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 28, 2014 2:11:14 GMT
Thank you Lexica, that's a great scenario to imagine. Your words and advice have been very helpful to me this week. It is not something any woman would ever want to go through, but it is good to have people who have been there and understand. I'm happy to help. And I do understand. And what I hope you learn from those of us who have been there is that you won't feel like this forever. That life gets better. This is an awful, painful few months that you have ahead of you, but it has an ending and then your new life begins. I just don't want to see you waste precious days dwelling on him when you can be focusing on yourself and your daughter. If Dr. Possibility comes along, you want to be ready, right? And that means working through this process, dealing with what needs to be done, but not wallowing in it forever either. And we're all here for you if you need a boost or reminder of what possibilities could lie ahead for you and to keep you on a healthy path toward your new life. My sister (the younger nice one, not the older one) told me that I should be excited when I was going through my divorce because it meant I got a complete "do over." I had endless possibilities of what I could do with my life and I was now much better educated in what I didn't want. That's what I want you to see. I want you to be excited about your endless possibilities. And you deserve that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 2:23:03 GMT
Awesome on keeping focused on the stuff that needs done! I think the FB thing can be overlooked primarily because you didn't beat the little bitch up! And come on, she most certainly did know he was married because she was friends with your DD's friend from school! Bullshit that she didn't know..... Now I agree she is a stupid kid who effed up here but to have that shallow of a character at 19? Speaks to poor upbringing and not having the common sense God gave a flea. I hope she gets herpes, little bitch! Great job on applying for legal aid, getting the car situation straightened out, and looking for rentals, also on cleaning out his shit from the house. Keep moving FORWARD! Other than absolute necessary contact from DH regarding court dates and such let him rot in the filth he created. What a fantastic prospect he must look like to the bitch now....no house, no family to speak of in his corner, no job, and not even a car or a prepaid cell phone to chat on! And everything he owns in wet,'soggy (pissed on?) bags! I agree with the poster who suggested getting rid of FB altogether. We are a family with several teenagers who has NEVER had it and honestly I don't regret it or think I'm missing out on anything of value WHATSOEVER. Free yourself of the chance and opportunity to go digging, your time is better spent learning the Endocrine System! Good luck, I'm glad you updated us, I've been thinking of you. And FWIW, I LOOOVE your avatar!
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 2:40:19 GMT
What a fantastic prospect he must look like to the bitch now....no house, no family to speak of in his corner, no job, and not even a car or a prepaid cell phone to chat on! And everything he owns in wet,'soggy (pissed on?) bags! Alas, I refrained from vandalism by urination. Honestly I was just too lazy to crawl under the trampoline and fetch the hat he was so concerned about. And, thanks, I like my avatar, too. I think it's pretty appropriate for how I feel right now, in a trance wanting to gnash human flesh with my teeth.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 2:42:47 GMT
Could've blamed it on that "darn neighborhood stray cat"..... Just saying.....
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Jul 28, 2014 2:44:17 GMT
you sound like you have much more restraint than I would, in this situation. Sending positive thoughts your way!
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 2:47:37 GMT
If IPOD method of contact with infidelity partner, DO NOT GIVE IT UP. I forgot to add, I gave him the ipod, but not before removing the facebook app and adding a parental lock for the internet. So he has email to contact me, I won't take his calls, and search for jobs, caseworker, etc. But no more chatting.
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Post by traceys on Jul 28, 2014 3:04:43 GMT
It takes two to tango. It seems your total focus is on her. It should be on the one who destroyed your life and family. If it wasn't her it could have been someone else. Read my previous thread, I kicked him out immediately and realize he is to blame. I think the fact that I just discovered the infidelity less than a week ago and could tell by the messages she knew he was married gives me the right to have a bit of anger towards her, too. I think you have the right to feel anger toward both of them...just get it out of your system and don't let it consume you. This is all very fresh for you and it will take time to go through it all. That was one place that my journals really helped me. I was not about to engage my ex's trashy whore in a public battle that she would've loved, but I could write everything I thought and wanted to say to my hearts content. I could vent everything I wanted and it didn't have to make sense. I didn't have to take the high road as I wanted to do in front of my daughter. I could just spill everything onto the pages. It really did make me feel better to get it all out, even if it was somewhere that no one would ever see it. I dont care care what he told the girl. Unless she did not know he was married, she is just as wrong as he is. There is zero excuse for betraying one's partner, and there is zero excuse for being a party to that betrayal.
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 3:07:25 GMT
and he just sent me an email stating he doesn't know how to use email. Dear Jesus, help me keep my sanity.
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 28, 2014 3:14:10 GMT
I think you have the right to feel anger toward both of them...just get it out of your system and don't let it consume you. This is all very fresh for you and it will take time to go through it all. That was one place that my journals really helped me. I was not about to engage my ex's trashy whore in a public battle that she would've loved, but I could write everything I thought and wanted to say to my hearts content. I could vent everything I wanted and it didn't have to make sense. I didn't have to take the high road as I wanted to do in front of my daughter. I could just spill everything onto the pages. It really did make me feel better to get it all out, even if it was somewhere that no one would ever see it. I dont care care what he told the girl. Unless she did not know he was married, she is just as wrong as he is. There is zero excuse for betraying one's partner, and there is zero excuse for being a party to that betrayal. Thank you! I have zero plans to confront her or dig into any of her business from this point on. And yes, I am trying to process it all. She definitely knew he was married because he was talking about me in their messages. So I don't think my assessment that she's a tramp/slut is inaccurate. I am lucky that DD has a support system and good relatives to hang out with for a few nights so I could rant to a friend that's removed from the situation - she lives out of town and is not related to us or knows anyone in my area. And journaling has been helpful, too.
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Post by winogirl on Jul 28, 2014 5:18:32 GMT
That girl is just young and stupid. Don't waste time on hating her; she'll probably hate herself soon enough if she doesn't already.
You OP, have already a lot to look forward to with nursing school before even knowing your dh would be such a disappointment and you will succeed!
STBX really has nothing going for him at this point in his life and this girl, if she has any self esteem will soon realize that and drop him...I mean really...most older men that pick up PYT's have something to offer like a chance at stability and the means to wine and dine them. What young woman is going to stay with a homeless, jobless, dishonest, unfaithful thirty-something putz who doesn't even own a car? Not for long...
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Jul 28, 2014 13:08:29 GMT
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Post by vronn on Jul 29, 2014 3:22:40 GMT
and he just sent me an email stating he doesn't know how to use email. Dear Jesus, help me keep my sanity. He's none too bright, is he? Take a deep breath, this too, shall pass. In the meantime, I'm laughing at his sorry ass.
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Post by scrapbookwriter on Jul 30, 2014 3:47:10 GMT
I gave him the ipod, got the car title signed over, and kept the quilt. I've asked the he only email from this point forward.
Steph, I am so glad you kept the quilt.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 30, 2014 9:18:52 GMT
I know that you're really raw right now, but I just have to go ahead and say this. You need to stop focusing on that girl, and turn all your energy toward making things ok for you and your daughter. It's totally understandable to be consumed with all of it right at first, but knowing all the details of this person's sleazy life is not going to help you in any way. It won't tell you why, and it won't make things any easier to understand or to bear. Yeah, contacting her on FB was a mistake. Honestly, I'd shut you and your daughter's FB down if I were you-that's just drama that you and your daughter don't need. Nothing good comes of FB during big personal crises. Seriously. Those close to you and who are there for you already know how to contact you. Living well really is the best revenge. How well you're doing will get back to him without the help of FB. Keep eating and taking care of yourself! Yeah, I'm done with it. The crowd she's a part of is no where near the type that I associate with, so I as long as I don't see her somewhere in our small town, I should have no reason to even hear her name. I think I did pretty good by not hunting her down in the past 5 days and ripping her hair off her head , especially considering the fact that she lives half a mile from the cousins DD has been spending so much time with this summer. There are a few cliches that sadly apply to STBX and dogs: you don't shit where you eat, you don't bite the hand that feeds you, and you've made your bed so now you can lay in it. I feel bad for insulting dogs. You need to refocus your rage and anger at your EX. She us inconsequential to you--it is the ex who betrayed you not her!
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Post by inkedup on Jul 30, 2014 9:45:04 GMT
I know you're angry. I'm sorry your husband chose to betray you and break his marital vows. I'd be devastated and angry in your shoes. I think anyone would.
It was really hard to read your OP, though, because it is so ugly. As a woman, it's hard for me to read the word "slut" over and over. I find it interesting that you haven't called your husband a slut when it was he who was the biggest whore in all of this.
It really sucks that your daughter is being dragged into this. Please do your best to keep her out of your issues with her dad, and please do your best to keep the slut shaming to a minimum. It takes two people to have an affair, and your husband was apparently very willing.
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Post by MerryMom on Jul 30, 2014 12:21:04 GMT
Why stir the pot with your constant references to her as "the slut"? I feel your pain, but she wasn't the one married to you. He doesn't sound like a prize, but you picked him, you have a child with him. So try your best to mentally shift him away from consuming your thoughts.
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Post by gonewalkabout on Jul 30, 2014 12:40:58 GMT
I am so sorry this has happened to you. And as others have said, you'll be angry for awhile, but also expect grief at some point. As sad and horrible as this situation is, and as angry as you may be now, you may also grieve the marriage you thought you had, the life you thought you had. I would also do as mentioned earlier and not focus on the other woman. You'll need that energy to make your life better and happier for you and your child.
Just a thought, if you give the iPod to him, make sure you transfer info/document anything on it that may be useful in court, such as times he called her, messages sent etc. I would give him the iPod, but I'd also expect him to replace it for the child.
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Post by threegirls on Jul 30, 2014 13:05:24 GMT
I think you have the right to be angry with your DH and the woman he messed around with. To not have any feelings of anger really wouldn't be realistic, especially since you just recently discovered what happened. You are human and you are allowed to have whatever feelings you want. Just keep them in check and don't let the anger take over. In time your feelings will stabilize and you will be busy with school. Your focus will change and you will channel your energy towards yourself, your daughter and school. You will be making a better life for yourself and daughter. Good luck and a big hug to you. By the way, I love your avatar!
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