raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Feb 19, 2016 17:26:39 GMT
Do you think that the US government has the right to compel corporations to create new product to help them do something? They aren't going to pay for this product. I'll let @busypea address the more technical side of this question, but I'm curious about how you feel about the above. That's absolutely not true. Part of the court ruling as that Apple needed to provide an estimate of the cost. So, they want the tax payers to pay for Apple employees to create a way for the US government to be able to invade our privacy. Super.
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Feb 19, 2016 17:30:43 GMT
I loved this quote from the article, which is what I said at the beginning of this. They won't pay and they want a homogeneous group of people working for them. Until they are willing to think outside the box and pay up, nothing will change.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:37:50 GMT
I'm just curious, why would you have this set this way? I use findmyphone and know that I can wipe the phone clean if it's lost. Because I work for a bank and it's required by our security procedures if we access bank email on our personal devices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:40:32 GMT
John McAfee is insane, probably literally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:45:34 GMT
I know I'm in the minority on this but I do believe nothing is absolute and exceptions can be made without opening the flood gates. I think the tech companies are over reacting because of the negative blow back they received when Snowden let it be known the tech companies were helping the government.
This morning on the CBS Morning Show they had this tech guy on. His name was Miller and he works for the NYPD. He made the case on why Apple should help the FBI and how it wouldn't be the beginning of the end of protecting the information on your smartphone.
What the FBI proposes is they turn over the phone to the Apple engineers, at their premise, let them do whatever they do to get the phone to the point that the data isn't erased because of the 10 missed passwords. At that point the phone is given back to the FBI and they do what they need to do get the data. So how its done to get to the point the FBI needs to be able to retrieve the data stays with Apple.
According to this guy Miller the reason the FBI feels it is important to get the data from the phone is because up until 90 days before the attack the terrorist backed up all the data on the cloud on a regular basis. Then he stopped. Why?What information is on the phone that he would change his regular routine and stop putting it on the cloud? Maybe nothing but pictures of rainbows or maybe a boat load of useful information. But until the information is retrieved no one will know. And because the information is on the phone of a dead terrorist I think this is a strong candidate for an exception.
As far as Tim Cook saying this back door code doesn't exist I'm not buying that for one second. He may think it doesn't exist but I bet it does. The reason I think that is because the challenge to crack the safeguard is there and there is always someone who will accept the challenge because they can. It could even be one of Apple's engineer who may have cracked the code for no other reason to see if he or she could. It's this kind of attitude that has given us the technology we have today and it is also this kind of attitude that had put at risk all the information we have on the these devices that come from all the advances in technology.
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Feb 19, 2016 17:45:34 GMT
John McAfee is insane, probably literally. But wouldn't be great to see them try? And then eat a shoe?
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 19, 2016 21:22:01 GMT
Found this while looking for info - "2016 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 22:00:54 GMT
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 19, 2016 22:30:51 GMT
So, I just read that Donald Trump has called for a boycott against Apple until they give up the keys to the kingdom.
(as an aside: I thought he was against big brother government? Isn't this the exact opposite of what his supporters want? I am so confused.)
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 19, 2016 22:37:11 GMT
So, I just read that Donald Trump has called for a boycott against Apple until they give up the keys to the kingdom. (as an aside: I thought he was against big brother government? Isn't this the exact opposite of what his supporters want? I am so confused.) Doesn't he just say whatever he wants to say even if it makes no sense or completely contradicts what he's said in the minutes, days or years before? It blows my mind that anyone would let him lead in the polls let alone vote for him given his tendencies to lie to suit the outrage of the moment.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 19, 2016 22:44:20 GMT
my son heard a good one...John Mcafee is the kanye west of it..... it would be secret company information on how much it would cost to develop this type of software...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 23:07:43 GMT
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