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Post by lorieann13 on Feb 24, 2016 21:25:05 GMT
I have a shih tzu who is 1 year and 8 months old. She has done well with lots of training techniques: sit, stay, drop it, leave it, crate (she knows to get into her crate), down, comes to her name and walks on the leash with a loose leash, no pulling as well as walks next to me.
The problem lies in when out walking the neighborhood she will lunge at a person and bark. Like full on crazy bark that makes her bounce.
This does not happen at the pet store or dog park.
I have tried the stupid shhs thing, walked away calmly but she turns around to bark at the person, had treats and tried to get her attention on me, have her sit which she wont, told her to leave it still barks.
I really have no idea how to correct this and have a calm dog when someone or another dog walks by.
Also LAYING DOWN. I have no clue why she can not master this.
Would appreciate some advice!
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Post by marimoose on Feb 24, 2016 21:53:02 GMT
Can you carry a squirt bottle and everytimne she barks you squirt her? It really does seem to break dogs of barking in the house so I would think that it would work the same while out walking. And when she doesn't bark you can then reward her with a small treat. My brother has 4 jack russell/chiuahua mix pups that barked ALL the time at everything. They range in age from 4-8 years old. I suggested the bottle and his SO decided to try it and in under two weeks they stopped. All she has to do is touch the bottle. It was a last resort for them and I know I had ot try it woth my daughter's two dogs that behaved the same way. I wish this technique would work on pulling dogs lol. My border collie walks me, or more like, runs me but we have the barking under control. Can't win at everything  |
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Post by julieb on Feb 25, 2016 0:14:33 GMT
Our 14 1/2 yo Shih Tzu has never been a big barker up until the last 6 months. He's gone pretty blind, so he barks just to bark, or it's a shadow, or he's seeing ghosts...  I have no clue and it is only when he is outside on his leash. I like the water bottle idea for OP. |
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Post by CarolT on Feb 25, 2016 1:37:06 GMT
For "lay down", try having something soft under her. My mini doxie wouldn't do "down" on a cold floor when I was training her - once she learned the command she would do it for me anywhere.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Feb 25, 2016 2:45:59 GMT
Tucker, my dog in my avatar, used to pull me across the neighborhood and made my arm sore. Dog trainer said everytime he started to pull to turn and go in the opposite direction. It would teach him that he wouldn't ever get anywhere if he pulled. That worked. BUT I can't get him to stop "attacking" dogs when we are out on walks. He never gets to a dog but he goes crazy whenever we see one, ESPECIALLY other big dogs. We recently discovered sprays called "Stop That" and "Quit It." They make a big honk of air that startles the dogs into shutting up. We have several dogs at my house and occasionally they all start yapping at once. One spray of air works. You don't shoot it at them just in the air to make the noise. I guess I should try it on our walks.  As for the shihtzu who won't "lay down" remember that going down is a submissive position. Your dog does lots of tricks so I'm sure you know the trick with the treat where you have the dog sit then pull the treat straight down where they have to lay down in order to reach the treat. That's how we've taught ours. |
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Post by janet100 on Feb 25, 2016 3:05:38 GMT
If she is walking slightly ahead of you, she is leading you and in control. Alpha dog is always first. If she is ahead, then she will feel the need to defend you and her territory/belongings.
If you are first and she is slightly behind you and you control the walk, she will look to you to defend her.
This could be why she doesn't react at the dog park because she is not on the leash and she doesn't have to defend her stuff (you).
Pet store - interesting that she doesn't respond there (I'm sure you have her on leash there). Maybe all the wonderful smells, other pets, treats?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 25, 2016 3:36:36 GMT
A shake can might be something easy you can try too. Put some pennies or something hard like that into a metal can and tape it closed. When the dog does something you don't want it to do, you shake the can to rattle the stuff inside to break their attention on whatever they're fixated on and bring the attention back to you. It costs nothing and is worth a shot.
For some reason, my little old dog started barking incessantly whenever we would be sitting at the table for dinner every night, and it was driving us all nuts. It was something he never did before and we weren't exactly sure why he started. One night I'd totally had it with the barking, so I grabbed the spray bottle of water I use when braiding DD's hair off the counter and I misted him in the face with it. A couple nights in a row of that and he stopped. That might be worth a try too.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Feb 25, 2016 5:01:20 GMT
I may have to get the spray bottle out for nipping at pant legs etc. I wish there was something that I could easily carry around the house. I tried the can with coins, but I never seemed to have it nearby when she when after my pants.
Our dog learned "lay" by sitting between my legs facing away from me and sitting. Then I'd say "lay" and I'd pull the treat down and press on her back. I don't know how stubborn different breeds are though. It took about 3 sessions and on the third she started doing it facing me or when I was sitting in a chair. Next, we'll move outside where there are a lot of distractions.
I read that stopping when the dog pulls will work. I stop and now she gets a tug with "no pull" and she will sit.
That's great that she does drop it and leave it. Those are next for us!
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Post by peano on Feb 25, 2016 5:20:40 GMT
I have a shih tzu who is 1 year and 8 months old. She has done well with lots of training techniques: sit, stay, drop it, leave it, crate (she knows to get into her crate), down, comes to her name and walks on the leash with a loose leash, no pulling as well as walks next to me. The problem lies in when out walking the neighborhood she will lunge at a person and bark. Like full on crazy bark that makes her bounce. This does not happen at the pet store or dog park. I have tried the stupid shhs thing, walked away calmly but she turns around to bark at the person, had treats and tried to get her attention on me, have her sit which she wont, told her to leave it still barks. I really have no idea how to correct this and have a calm dog when someone or another dog walks by. Also LAYING DOWN. I have no clue why she can not master this. Would appreciate some advice! I have had success getting my dog to stop growling at approaching dogs, and actually stopped a fight with a aerosol pheromone spray called InteroSTOP. I get it from Amazon. I carry it with me when we walk and now I only have to just show her the can and she lets other dogs approach without growling. I believe the timing of the spray is important--you have to really anticipate the negative behavior, quickly spray at just the moment the lunging and barking starts while saying "NO!" emphatically. |
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Post by momto4kiddos on Feb 25, 2016 13:51:23 GMT
Whatever you choose, choose something simple and be consistent. I have some success with repeating "quiet" to him as we pass other dogs. He knows what I want from him when I tell him quiet! He's not always successful, lol. I have noticed with him that it's nervousness that makes him freak out and bark at other dogs. Our other dog LOVES everyone she meets humans and animals alike. So she'll go right up. He'll follow and I can keep him quiet for a bit, but then goes crazy barking. Happened one time in the Fall where a guy approached him and he was quiet until he got close and then he freaked out. He was definitely scared! I have some success with him if I get down on his level (he's a shih tzu/bichon mix) and pat and reassure if he's approached by another dog. Of course the more you expose and train the better/more comfortable they should become. Lying down was easy for us, getting lying down without rolling over much harder  My female will run right through her whole bag of tricks if she thinks it will earn her a treat! Make sure you do a sit and i'd go with a treat to help get into lying down position. Let her see it, maybe put it to her nose and then give her the command and slide your hand toward the floor in front of her, slightly away so that she has to be lying to follow the treat. Good luck. |
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Post by lorieann13 on Feb 25, 2016 15:13:46 GMT
Thank you for all the responses! I think I will try something that makes.noise over water. I dobt want her to become fearful of that aince the ultimate goal is to be a registered therapy dog for my daughter. I used to blow over a water bottle to get her to oewrn not to rush the window when ever someone or something walked by or made a noise. She responded to that and now barely does it. I allow her to bark if someone comes to the door. Thanks again |
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Post by lorieann13 on Feb 25, 2016 15:15:14 GMT
Oh and what is interesting is she walks next to me on loose leash. But the moment a person or dog comes into range BOOM she is out in front barking.
But she loves to play at the park and greet people and dogs there and at the pet store. Same with the vet. Even at the groomers!
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I have no clue and it is only when he is outside on his leash. 
My female will run right through her whole bag of tricks if she thinks it will earn her a treat! Make sure you do a sit and i'd go with a treat to help get into lying down position. Let her see it, maybe put it to her nose and then give her the command and slide your hand toward the floor in front of her, slightly away so that she has to be lying to follow the treat.