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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 21:19:57 GMT
When I do a search on eBay for Stampin Up stamps, I get approx 50,000 items.
When I search for CTMH stamps, I get about 5000 items.
Why?
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Post by katlady on Mar 2, 2016 21:23:18 GMT
More Stampin Up customers? I hear more about SU than I do CTMH.
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Post by grammadee on Mar 2, 2016 23:29:05 GMT
Maybe it is the space the sets take up. Until recently SU! stamps all had the wooden bases, and took up a lot or space. CTMH stamps have always been acrylic, and each set fits into an almost flat envelope.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 3, 2016 10:07:59 GMT
CTMH was originally known at DOTS and was founded in the mid 80's. Stampin' Up was founded a few years after DOTS. DOTS/CTMH were a wood mounted rubber stamp, with designs created solely by the founder. It was a very cutesy style. Stampin' Up may have had more designers. They had more styles, which gave them a wider appeal. At first, SU cost less than DOTS did, because you mounted the SU stamps yourself. The lower cost also gave them an advantage. I think they ended up with more reps early on because of their lower cost.
Eventually DOTS changed names, and they also added stamps that were not just cutesy. I started buying more of theirs when they offered styles I liked better. At that point, my loyalty was divided. When CTMH went from the rubber wood mounted stamps to the clear stamps, I stopped buying SU. I loved the ability to see where I was stamping with the CTMH stamps, they cost significantly less than SU, and I also preferred the fact that the CTMH stamps took up less space.
However, many stampers prefer the crisper image of rubber stamps, so it's possible that the SU stamps have had a wider appeal in general to those stamping enthusiasts who buy the most stamps. But the wood mounted rubber stamps DO take up far more space. I unmounted all my wood mount stamps, and I rarely buy a wood mount stamp anymore, because I feel I have to go to the bother of unmounting it. Space is a huge issue for me.
Since CTMH was originally known as DOTS (Dozens of Terrific Stamps), if you look up DOTS, you may find more on eBay than just under the CTMH label.
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Post by woodysbetty on Mar 3, 2016 17:09:22 GMT
CTMH was originally known at DOTS and was founded in the mid 80's. Stampin' Up was founded a few years after DOTS. DOTS/CTMH were a wood mounted rubber stamp, with designs created solely by the founder. It was a very cutesy style. Stampin' Up may have had more designers. They had more styles, which gave them a wider appeal. At first, SU cost less than DOTS did, because you mounted the SU stamps yourself. The lower cost also gave them an advantage. I think they ended up with more reps early on because of their lower cost. Eventually DOTS changed names, and they also added stamps that were not just cutesy. I started buying more of theirs when they offered styles I liked better. At that point, my loyalty was divided. When CTMH went from the rubber wood mounted stamps to the clear stamps, I stopped buying SU. I loved the ability to see where I was stamping with the CTMH stamps, they cost significantly less than SU, and I also preferred the fact that the CTMH stamps took up less space. However, many stampers prefer the crisper image of rubber stamps, so it's possible that the SU stamps have had a wider appeal in general to those stamping enthusiasts who buy the most stamps. But the wood mounted rubber stamps DO take up far more space. I unmounted all my wood mount stamps, and I rarely buy a wood mount stamp anymore, because I feel I have to go to the bother of unmounting it. Space is a huge issue for me. Since CTMH was originally known as DOTS (Dozens of Terrific Stamps), if you look up DOTS, you may find more on eBay than just under the CTMH label. Didn't know all this....I agree I rarely buy wood mounted any more. But really loved the background info - thanks Scrapnnanna!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 21:31:37 GMT
CTMH was originally known at DOTS and was founded in the mid 80's. Stampin' Up was founded a few years after DOTS. DOTS/CTMH were a wood mounted rubber stamp, with designs created solely by the founder. It was a very cutesy style. Stampin' Up may have had more designers. They had more styles, which gave them a wider appeal. At first, SU cost less than DOTS did, because you mounted the SU stamps yourself. The lower cost also gave them an advantage. I think they ended up with more reps early on because of their lower cost. Eventually DOTS changed names, and they also added stamps that were not just cutesy. I started buying more of theirs when they offered styles I liked better. At that point, my loyalty was divided. When CTMH went from the rubber wood mounted stamps to the clear stamps, I stopped buying SU. I loved the ability to see where I was stamping with the CTMH stamps, they cost significantly less than SU, and I also preferred the fact that the CTMH stamps took up less space. However, many stampers prefer the crisper image of rubber stamps, so it's possible that the SU stamps have had a wider appeal in general to those stamping enthusiasts who buy the most stamps. But the wood mounted rubber stamps DO take up far more space. I unmounted all my wood mount stamps, and I rarely buy a wood mount stamp anymore, because I feel I have to go to the bother of unmounting it. Space is a huge issue for me. Since CTMH was originally known as DOTS (Dozens of Terrific Stamps), if you look up DOTS, you may find more on eBay than just under the CTMH label. I originally learned. To stamp from a DOTS demonstrator. DOTS was started in 84, SU in 88. The name change occurred when they wanted to reflect inclusion of Scrapbooking...the came out with fantastic leather albums, journaling supplies, idea books, etc There are almost no current CTMH sets available on eBay. Because they are photopolymer, and so easy to ship, I would think there would be far more for sale on eBay. Since they are less expensive to begin with, perhaps they just don't hold their value. I've seen retired SU stamp sets with matching punches go for $80 to $100 on occasion on eBay. I occasionally buy photopolymer stamps (even though I am so much more in love with real rubber). I don't have storage issues so I like wood mounted stamps. I went to a CTMH event last week and got a new catalog--probably the first CTMH catalog I've had in five years because I don't like photopolymer stamps and SU has kept me quite happy. The event organizer had utilized some retired items so I went on eBay to try and hunt down some of them and found nothing I was looking for. I was just curious what might be the cause... |
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Post by stampbooker on Mar 3, 2016 22:40:47 GMT
Actually Stampin' Up was founded first because Jeanette Lynton, (the founder of CTMH) was a stamp designer for SU! before she left and started DOTS.
SU! does have a larger following, so that probably accounts for the higher volume on ebay. Also because CTMH stamps store so much easier, maybe people are holding on to more sets. I think SU! has a higher resale value too, so that probably encourages more sales.
CTMH tries to keep the retail price of their stamps low enough that they can be considered a somewhat disposable product. Not after one use of course, but not a collector's item either!
While we are on the subject, CTMH is having their "Stampaganza" this month. Buy 2 stamp sets and get 1 free! Message me for details.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 4, 2016 0:53:56 GMT
According to the Internet, DOTS started before SU, unless SU also had a different name earlier on. Does anyone know if SU changed names? There were SU stamps back in the day that did look similar in style to DOTS stamps, so it would not be surprising if Jeannette was a designer at one point for SU. I had assumed that SU started first, until this message thread made me curious, so I looked up when each company was founded. I edited my post to reflect what the Internet showed as to which company was started first.
I have not bought from either company for awhile. Maybe I just have too many stamps, and both CTMH and SU are one reason why. I bought from both companies for years.
Rubber stamps do not seem to lose their value as much as clear stamps after the stamps are retired, so I think Stampbooker has a good point there. Once I unmounted my rubber stamps, I am pretty sure they lost all resale value. Not that I plan to sell them. They store easily without the wood, so I can hang onto my rather sizable collection with no guilt as to how often stamps get used.
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Post by FurryP on Mar 4, 2016 1:22:13 GMT
Interesting bits of information ladies....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 3:35:45 GMT
I'm not privy to any insider information--I just look on their websites. According to the CTMH site, Jeanette started DOTS in 1984--in 2014 there was a big deal about celebrating 30 years. Stampin Up website says they opened in 1988.
I wasn't there...just going by what the two business sites have recorded.
I've heard from a couple sources that SU has 40000 to 50000 demonstrators.
I don't know how many CTMH has currently.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 4, 2016 5:31:37 GMT
My BFF was a DOTS demo way, way, WAY back in the early days when they still sold stamps from the handful of stamp manufacturers that were around back then, like All Night Media and Hero Arts. They had a hard time getting the products in stock in a timely enough manner to make the consultant based system work, so I think that was probably part of why they started designing and manufacturing their own, to cut out the middleman.
Years later they switched to only doing the photopolymer stamps which I'm sure cut the expense and turn around time down even more. The process of making photopolymer stamp dies is a lot less involved and a lot less expensive than making red rubber dies, and as a result it's a much quicker process to go from drawing to finished stamp.
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Post by twinsandtwo on Mar 4, 2016 16:04:19 GMT
I don't stamp much anymore. I used to be a CTMH rep (and have considered rejoining but liFe is BUSY). Personally, I rarely sell my sets-they don't take up much room and I know that I may eventually find a use for them.
I sold all of my SU wood sets-I just had too much stuff and they took up a lot of space.
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Post by kate on Mar 5, 2016 23:25:34 GMT
I also wonder if CTMH has stricter (or at least more strictly-enforced) rules about consultants selling on Ebay than SU does. When I did CTMH, I remember people getting in trouble for selling on Ebay. That's been years ago, though.
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