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Post by 5peanutsnana on Mar 9, 2016 1:54:09 GMT
One of my pet peeves is what seems to me a mispronunciation of the letter L. Two of the people who do this are Tom Brokaw and Chris Christi. I think what they do (or I guess what they don't do) is stick their tongue out through their teeth when pronouncing an L. There is a show host on QVC who says "gode" for gold. and Hawston for Halston.
Is there a term for this? Is it considered an impediment? Do they not hear it the same way everyone else does? Can it be corrected? I know when young children are learning to speak, they think they are pronouncing things correctly when they are not. It takes awhile for them to make certain sounds correctly.
For a while I thought I was going to have to listen to Gov. Christie for four years.
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Post by sharlag on Mar 9, 2016 2:25:25 GMT
I don't know the name of the syndrome or whatever..
But recently while watching THE ORIGINALS, I noticed they kept pronouncing the word "VULNERABLE" without the first L. So it sounded like "VUNerable".
In that case I wondered if it was a British pronunciation, because those actors were portraying someone from over there.
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Post by scrapsotime on Mar 9, 2016 5:05:42 GMT
Tom Brokaw was born with a cleft palate and is why his speech is a bit different.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 9, 2016 5:12:34 GMT
Tom Brokaw was born with a cleft palate and is why his speech is a bit different. I didn't know that. Interesting. I'm sitting here, saying L and trying to figure out why my tongue should stick out. |
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Post by mikewozowski on Mar 9, 2016 5:14:14 GMT
i think i know what you mean with the L sound. i hear a lot of people do this. i didn't know if it was regional or not. the one person who i most associate this sound with is from pittsburgh. the word i hear most mispronounced is dollars, which sounds kind of like dowwers.
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Post by camcas on Mar 9, 2016 5:17:26 GMT
We need a speech pathologist to chime in here
I think the idea is that the L sound is called a "lingular" sound because you make it with you tongue on you teeth and some peopledont do that
.....or something like that
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Post by Jili on Mar 9, 2016 5:28:42 GMT
SLP here. I'll chime in.
There are a lot of people who produce /l/ interdentally, with the tongue between the teeth. It often is more of a visual issue. Acoustically, it may not sound any different, or it may. When produced accurately, the tip of the tongue makes contact with the alveolar ridge, which is the bumpy area just behind the upper teeth.
Vowelizing /l/ is a common error in children. When this happens, 'ball' will sound like 'bau', and 'gold' will indeed sound like 'gode'. It's a matter of tongue positioning. The tongue needs to come up.
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Post by melanell on Mar 9, 2016 7:47:21 GMT
SLP here. I'll chime in. There are a lot of people who produce /l/ interdentally, with the tongue between the teeth. It often is more of a visual issue. Acoustically, it may not sound any different, or it may. When produced accurately, the tip of the tongue makes contact with the alveolar ridge, which is the bumpy area just behind the upper teeth. Vowelizing /l/ is a common error in children. When this happens, 'ball' will sound like 'bau', and 'gold' will indeed sound like 'gode'. It's a matter of tongue positioning. The tongue needs to come up. I was just going to say that DS's therapist always tells him to make sure his tongue is on the bumpy part behind his teeth when they work on L.  |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Mar 9, 2016 8:01:40 GMT
I've been having fun trying to pronounce "L" without my tongue touching the top I can do it if I sound like I just came from the dentist  SO pet peeve is when people call a wolf a woof Sometimes it hurts with the "L" ( I'm tongue tied ) |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 9, 2016 9:06:59 GMT
I don't know the name of the syndrome or whatever.. But recently while watching THE ORIGINALS, I noticed they kept pronouncing the word "VULNERABLE" without the first L. So it sounded like "VUNerable". In that case I wondered if it was a British pronunciation, because those actors were portraying someone from over there. Nope. We pronounce the 'L'. |
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Post by BarbaraUK on Mar 9, 2016 9:10:13 GMT
I don't know the name of the syndrome or whatever.. But recently while watching THE ORIGINALS, I noticed they kept pronouncing the word "VULNERABLE" without the first L. So it sounded like "VUNerable". In that case I wondered if it was a British pronunciation, because those actors were portraying someone from over there. Nope. We pronounce the 'L'.  |
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Post by Really Red on Mar 9, 2016 12:25:47 GMT
And the opposite! When people pronounce the L in salmon, it makes me crazy!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 13:06:04 GMT
And the opposite! When people pronounce the L in salmon, it makes me crazy! My husband went to a Salmon HS, but you DO pronounce the "L" in that one. I'm always calling it the fish version. It drives him bonkers. |
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Post by utmr on Mar 9, 2016 14:50:02 GMT
These threads make me crazy because I waste 20 minutes sitting here saying vul-nerable / vun-erable and butt-on / bu-ton and trying to see how hillbilly I sound.
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Post by melanell on Mar 10, 2016 12:30:10 GMT
My son was just telling us all about an eaguh (eagle) today. Yep, Ls are an issue for him.
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