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Post by jenis40 on Mar 25, 2016 4:00:44 GMT
Not saying this couldn't happen but a signature is required. When I mail my ballot in it goes in a unmarked envelope so it's anonymous.The unmarked envelope is then placed in another envelope that requires a signature. The signed envelope then goes into a third envelope to be mailed or dropped off at a drop box. This is in Washington state. I'm not 100% sure of the vetting process but I think if you make a complaint that you haven't received your ballot they would check the signature against your voter registration card. Otherwise the signatures are checked against the eligible voter lists. I Love this way of voting! You've been getting three envelopes in WA? I only get two! That's what I remember but I wouldn't swear to it!
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Post by flanz on Mar 25, 2016 4:56:30 GMT
Something stinks in AZ and in the DNC overall. Tehy are playing dirty to steal the nomination for Hillary and it pisses me off royally. I'm so glad the Phoeniz mayor is calling for this investigation!!
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Post by darkchami on Mar 25, 2016 5:04:37 GMT
Who pays for the polling places? If it is the state then closing places because of money, what are you gonna do, states have to balance their budgets. Yes waiting hours to vote sucks, but having polling places can't be cheap. I am not making a judgement one way or the other just curious btw I hate mailing option, how are they checked, could my house get 5 ballots (5 registered voters) and I fill them all out and send them back? Trust me, they check the signatures on the ballots. My signature must have changed enough in one year for it to trigger a fraudulent ballot alert. I had to send in additional verification that I was who I said I was. I also had 2 men show up at my doorstep to tell me to send in the papers.
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Post by blondiec47 on Mar 25, 2016 11:09:41 GMT
Who pays for the polling places? If it is the state then closing places because of money, what are you gonna do, states have to balance their budgets. Yes waiting hours to vote sucks, but having polling places can't be cheap. I am not making a judgement one way or the other just curious btw I hate mailing option, how are they checked, could my house get 5 ballots (5 registered voters) and I fill them all out and send them back? Trust me, they check the signatures on the ballots. My signature must have changed enough in one year for it to trigger a fraudulent ballot alert. I had to send in additional verification that I was who I said I was. I also had 2 men show up at my doorstep to tell me to send in the papers. Thanks good to know, as far as I know in MA the only mail ins are absentee ballots
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 25, 2016 12:33:34 GMT
Something stinks in AZ and in the DNC overall. Tehy are playing dirty to steal the nomination for Hillary and it pisses me off royally. I'm so glad the Phoeniz mayor is calling for this investigation!! This kind of surprises me. I would have thought that if there was a conspiracy to manipulate votes it would be the other way...I listened to a interview with the Sheriff of Maricopa county the day that there was Trump rally in his area and I am pretty sure he swings the other way. Anyway, as to the question of would I wait in line? Yes. Have I? Yes. But never more than about 10 minutes. We have so many polling locations that you can't throw a rock without hitting one. I have been voting in the same church lunchroom for 20 years and if I wasn't such a lazy girl I could walk there.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 12:45:37 GMT
But here, at least, voting is incredibly convenient, so if you don't choose to vote the multiple days that early voting is allowed, you really have no one to blame but yourself if you have to wait a long time. It is your right to vote. If you want to be heard it might take some work on your part though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 12:54:37 GMT
You've been getting three envelopes in WA? I only get two! That's what I remember but I wouldn't swear to it! I was just teasing with you. It's only two envelopes + the ballot, which is three pieces altogether.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 12:56:25 GMT
I don't think waiting in line for 5 hours to vote is acceptable at all. But I would do it if I had to. Do you *have* to if you have many days of early voting available, though? We have early voting here. If I wait until election day to vote, it's going to take me a lot longer to get through the process. BUT.... I've never had to wait those crazy hours. One election may catch an area by surprise, but not consistently election after election. As for the differences in the population each voting spot services, it's to be expected that more populated areas will serve more people. Actual voting turnout may not be in the same percentage voters/population as it is in less populated areas. I would need to know a whole lot more than just the OP to know if it there was manipulation going on or the actual basis of voting spot distribution. I vote in a predominantly minority area, FWIW.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 13:22:27 GMT
People who were registered Democrats got to their polling places and found that their registration had been changed to Independent so they couldn't vote. Many people were still standing in line when the polls closed and never got to vote, even after waiting several hours. And from what I read it was called that Hillary was the winner a few hours before the polls were set to close when people were still standing in line. Can you imagine the feeling that a winner is called when you're standing in line, you've still got say 2 hours (I don't know the exact time but I know it was more than 1 hour) till the polls close and a winner is called. I know I'd be thinking, "WTF? What are they trying to pull? That's me. All grounds for investigation for sure. A few presidential elections ago the election was called and the west coast hadn't even finished voting yet. BOO! My voting spot allowed anyone who was in line when it hit closing time was allowed to vote. I had wondered about that, but I was there and saw it for myself.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 13:28:40 GMT
Who pays for the polling places? If it is the state then closing places because of money, what are you gonna do, states have to balance their budgets. Yes waiting hours to vote sucks, but having polling places can't be cheap. I am not making a judgement one way or the other just curious btw I hate mailing option, how are they checked, could my house get 5 ballots (5 registered voters) and I fill them all out and send them back? I do NOT want to vote by mail. I have plenty of time to early vote at very convenient locations if I so choose, and whenever I do vote, I know that I delivered my vote to be counted right then and there. I'm too distrustful of the mail and the mail openers and the mail readers to believe that's a better option. Anything that adds more steps and more people into the process of a secret vote is a bad thing IMO.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 13:34:24 GMT
I know that I was able to get an early ballot and had a choice to mail it in or drop it off at my polling place or the county office. It was really simple. I waited until the last week so that I could be fairly certain that the person I cast a ballot for was still in the race. I knew/took the time to be informed that they were consolidating polling places and I didn't want to deal with it. There were certainly issues but it appears that it was isolated to Maricopa County. In my area people were just walking in and voting with little to no wait. I do believe they have a lot of explaining to do. The local news casts covering this really made it sound like it was a money (cost) issue. The number of polling places was voted on prior to the election by a board. I do believe that it needs to be fixed prior to the next election. I am not sure that a costly investigation is going to uncover malicious intent. The news shows were calling the election for Clinton and Trump before everyone in line had a chance to vote. Well this is what I thought was going on, that people were just bitching about waiting in a line. Whatever. But people had their party affiliation changed and were notified, people didn't get mail in ballots at all, provisional ballots were taking hours to get, etc. Shady stuff, and those were just people from Pima county (not Maricopa). My bil is a republican, didn't get a mail in ballot (his wife did) and when he went to the polling place they had him listed as a democrat, then took over 2 hours to get a provisional ballot to vote. It just gets worse and worse. Even more reason I love not having to declare a party!
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 13:51:56 GMT
I cannot believe some of you think it is acceptable to wait HOURS to vote. If we spend our money on anything, it should be this! Everyone has the right to vote within a reasonable amount of time. And in the whole scheme of things, it does not cost that much. It just doesn't. There is no way that I could stand in line for hours to vote. I work full-time. If all the teachers at my school had to take a day off to vote, there wouldn't be enough subs to cover. I am just flabbergasted that some of you believe this is OK! Isn't that why you have early voting, though? The planning of the voting places on election day, the horrific changing of individuals' party affiliations, and the calling of the race before voting is complete are bad. But your argument that your entire workstaff is at risk of being disenfranchised and unable to vote is just plain wrong if you are able to vote other than on one day at one designated spot.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Mar 25, 2016 14:05:03 GMT
I cannot believe some of you think it is acceptable to wait HOURS to vote. If we spend our money on anything, it should be this! Everyone has the right to vote within a reasonable amount of time. And in the whole scheme of things, it does not cost that much. It just doesn't. There is no way that I could stand in line for hours to vote. I work full-time. If all the teachers at my school had to take a day off to vote, there wouldn't be enough subs to cover. I am just flabbergasted that some of you believe this is OK! Isn't that why you have early voting, though? The planning of the voting places on election day, the horrific changing of individuals' party affiliations, and the calling of the race before voting is complete are bad. But your argument that your entire workstaff is at risk of being disenfranchised and unable to vote is just plain wrong if you are able to vote other than on one day at one designated spot. Not every area has early voting. When I lived in VA, we waited for 3.5 hours two elections in a row, and in spite of calls to add an early voting option, it didn't happen. We have early voting now, but it is only available at one location, and it is not a great option in a rural county with limited public transportation. Don't get me wrong--I'm glad we have the option, but it isn't very accessible to quite a few voters in our area.
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Post by jenis40 on Mar 25, 2016 14:27:16 GMT
Who pays for the polling places? If it is the state then closing places because of money, what are you gonna do, states have to balance their budgets. Yes waiting hours to vote sucks, but having polling places can't be cheap. I am not making a judgement one way or the other just curious btw I hate mailing option, how are they checked, could my house get 5 ballots (5 registered voters) and I fill them all out and send them back? I do NOT want to vote by mail. I have plenty of time to early vote at very convenient locations if I so choose, and whenever I do vote, I know that I delivered my vote to be counted right then and there. I'm too distrustful of the mail and the mail openers and the mail readers to believe that's a better option. Anything that adds more steps and more people into the process of a secret vote is a bad thing IMO. It's the same people opening your mail in ballot and counting the vote as would be counting your vote from a polling place. The only thing the USPS is doing is delivering the ballot. We also have the option of delivering the ballot to a drop box if you don't want to mail it.
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Post by katybee on Mar 25, 2016 14:56:19 GMT
The reality is that it's getting harder and harder to vote in areas that have large populations of low income and minority voters. Polling places cut, early voting cut, etc. That is NOT a coincidence. We should do everything we can to make it easy for EVERYONE to vote. Here's a bright idea-- how about trying to WIN votes by putting up candidates and running campaigns that are inclusive of people instead of just trying to prevent the people who disagree with you from voting. And if you think I'm suggesting that Republicans purposely try to make it hard for low income and minority people to vote because they know low income and minority voters overwhelmingly choose democratic candidates--- why YES I am. Don't even get me started on gerrymandering . The voting districts in Texas are ridiculous and so obviously designed to keep Republicans in power. Hey Republicans-- scared much about what would happen if you actually drew districts that represented true communities?
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Post by jayfab on Mar 25, 2016 14:57:21 GMT
Something stinks in AZ and in the DNC overall. Tehy are playing dirty to steal the nomination for Hillary and it pisses me off royally. I'm so glad the Phoeniz mayor is calling for this investigation!! This kind of surprises me. I would have thought that if there was a conspiracy to manipulate votes it would be the other way...I listened to a interview with the Sheriff of Maricopa county the day that there was Trump rally in his area and I am pretty sure he swings the other way. Anyway, as to the question of would I wait in line? Yes. Have I? Yes. But never more than about 10 minutes. We have so many polling locations that you can't throw a rock without hitting one. I have been voting in the same church lunchroom for 20 years and if I wasn't such a lazy girl I could walk there. It's crazy that some places have tons of locations and others have cut back so much. My polling location has changed 3 times in about 10ish years. Now they combined three locations into one. It wasn't bad this last time but when it comes to November it's going to be a mess. We do not have early voting here. If I had to wait 5 hours I would, but I can see a lot of people where I live not being able to. These new voting restrictions since the 2010 elections are nothing but voter suppression.
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Post by jayfab on Mar 25, 2016 14:58:38 GMT
The reality is that it's getting harder and harder to vote in areas that have large populations of low income and minority voters. Polling places cut, early voting cut, etc. That is NOT a coincidence. We should do everything we can to make it easy for EVERYONE to vote. Here's a bright idea-- how about trying to WIN votes by putting up candidates and running campaigns that are inclusive of people instead of just trying to prevent the people who disagree with you from voting. And if you think I'm suggesting that Republicans purposely try to make it hard for low income and minority people to vote because they know low income and minority voters overwhelmingly choose democratic candidates--- why YES I am. Don't even get me started on gerrymandering . The voting districts in Texas are ridiculous and so obviously designed to keep Republicans in power. Hey Republicans-- scared much about what would happen if you actually drew districts that represented true communities? Agree 110%
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 14:59:13 GMT
I do NOT want to vote by mail. I have plenty of time to early vote at very convenient locations if I so choose, and whenever I do vote, I know that I delivered my vote to be counted right then and there. I'm too distrustful of the mail and the mail openers and the mail readers to believe that's a better option. Anything that adds more steps and more people into the process of a secret vote is a bad thing IMO. It's the same people opening your mail in ballot and counting the vote as would be counting your vote from a polling place. The only thing the USPS is doing is delivering the ballot. We also have the option of delivering the ballot to a drop box if you don't want to mail it. Nope. I vote by machine. It's been a very long time since I had a paper ballot.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 15:08:18 GMT
The reality is that it's getting harder and harder to vote in areas that have large populations of low income and minority voters. Polling places cut, early voting cut, etc. That is NOT a coincidence. We should do everything we can to make it easy for EVERYONE to vote. Here's a bright idea-- how about trying to WIN votes by putting up candidates and running campaigns that are inclusive of people instead of just trying to prevent the people who disagree with you from voting. And if you think I'm suggesting that Republicans purposely try to make it hard for low income and minority people to vote because they know low income and minority voters overwhelmingly choose democratic candidates--- why YES I am. Don't even get me started on gerrymandering . The voting districts in Texas are ridiculous and so obviously designed to keep Republicans in power. Hey Republicans-- scared much about what would happen if you actually drew districts that represented true communities? You're confusing me here. Does Texas have crazy gerrymandering? Yep. Is it difficult to vote if you're low income and/or minority in Texas? Nope. Is it more difficult to vote if you're low income and/or minority in a densely populated area in Texas? Not that I'm aware of. You'll have to be the one to prove it if that's part of your point. Texas voting is VERY different from Arizona voting. We aren't having the same issues. And if people in Arizona are having their REPUBLICAN party affiliation changed without their knowledge, you're just hiding your head in the sand if you lay this all at the feet of Republicans.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 15:11:50 GMT
This kind of surprises me. I would have thought that if there was a conspiracy to manipulate votes it would be the other way...I listened to a interview with the Sheriff of Maricopa county the day that there was Trump rally in his area and I am pretty sure he swings the other way. Anyway, as to the question of would I wait in line? Yes. Have I? Yes. But never more than about 10 minutes. We have so many polling locations that you can't throw a rock without hitting one. I have been voting in the same church lunchroom for 20 years and if I wasn't such a lazy girl I could walk there. It's crazy that some places have tons of locations and others have cut back so much. My polling location has changed 3 times in about 10ish years. Now they combined three locations into one. It wasn't bad this last time but when it comes to November it's going to be a mess. We do not have early voting here. If I had to wait 5 hours I would, but I can see a lot of people where I live not being able to. These new voting restrictions since the 2010 elections are nothing but voter suppression.That's a problem. I hate election years.
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Post by Tamhugh on Mar 25, 2016 15:13:01 GMT
But I think most people who aren't as informed as me or you, would be thinking, "so what's the use, they've called a winner. Why bother standing in this line anymore. Might as well go home." which I think, was the exact response Hillary was hoping for. Now I am not into conspiracies. I don't believe in UFO's or Roswell or that the government knows something and is hiding it. I don't believe in any of the popular conspiracies. I do think Hillary will do anything to win this election. Even go so far as changing those registered Democrats to independents and having a hand in this mess. Bernie was favored to win Arizona. That's my thinking. We'll see. I hope justice is done. The people in Arizona deserve a chance to vote. I don't care who comes out the winner. As long as they get a chance for their voices to be heard. Our country is built on democracy. When things like what happened in Arizona start happening it's a slippery slope away from that to something far worse. Debbie in MD. Not being snarky, just trying to figure out what I might be missing, but.... How would Hilary be sure she was benefitting from this? She would have to have access to all of the voting rolls, access to the ability to change them, and then the knowledge of exactly which registered Democrats supported her and which ones supported Bernie. Then she would have to go through each one and only change the registration of those that supported Bernie so that they couldn't vote. I think the Clintons are savvy politicians who will say and do almost anything to win but I think this is a bit too much even for them. Again, I may be missing something entirely.
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Post by Tamhugh on Mar 25, 2016 15:19:28 GMT
I cannot believe some of you think it is acceptable to wait HOURS to vote. If we spend our money on anything, it should be this! Everyone has the right to vote within a reasonable amount of time. And in the whole scheme of things, it does not cost that much. It just doesn't. There is no way that I could stand in line for hours to vote. I work full-time. If all the teachers at my school had to take a day off to vote, there wouldn't be enough subs to cover. I am just flabbergasted that some of you believe this is OK! Isn't that why you have early voting, though? The planning of the voting places on election day, the horrific changing of individuals' party affiliations, and the calling of the race before voting is complete are bad. But your argument that your entire workstaff is at risk of being disenfranchised and unable to vote is just plain wrong if you are able to vote other than on one day at one designated spot. I am curious, how many of you have the ability to use early voting? We don't have it here and our primary elections are closed. ETA I don't necessarily think we need early voting. Within a mile of my house, I know of 3 polling places and mine is about a block and a half away. I just wish that my state voted early enough to count.
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Post by katybee on Mar 25, 2016 15:23:18 GMT
The reality is that it's getting harder and harder to vote in areas that have large populations of low income and minority voters. Polling places cut, early voting cut, etc. That is NOT a coincidence. We should do everything we can to make it easy for EVERYONE to vote. Here's a bright idea-- how about trying to WIN votes by putting up candidates and running campaigns that are inclusive of people instead of just trying to prevent the people who disagree with you from voting. And if you think I'm suggesting that Republicans purposely try to make it hard for low income and minority people to vote because they know low income and minority voters overwhelmingly choose democratic candidates--- why YES I am. Don't even get me started on gerrymandering . The voting districts in Texas are ridiculous and so obviously designed to keep Republicans in power. Hey Republicans-- scared much about what would happen if you actually drew districts that represented true communities? You're confusing me here. Does Texas have crazy gerrymandering? Yep. Is it difficult to vote if you're low income and/or minority in Texas? Nope. Is it more difficult to vote if you're low income and/or minority in a densely populated area in Texas? Not that I'm aware of. You'll have to be the one to prove it if that's part of your point. Texas voting is VERY different from Arizona voting. We aren't having the same issues. And if people in Arizona are having their REPUBLICAN party affiliation changed without their knowledge, you're just hiding your head in the sand if you lay this all at the feet of Republicans. I was referring to gerrymandering specifically in Texas (although it happens all over the country). We are actually still very lucky when it comes to access in TX (probably because the gerrymandering already makes it impossible to have a fair election). But there are SO many cases all over the country where what I described is true. A simple Google search can confirm. And, politicians ADMIT it's true. I'm gonna go ahead a throw voter ID laws (which TX does have) in the mix, because there have been SEVERAL prominent politicians who have admitted that it has little to do with voter fraud and more to do with suppressing votes.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 25, 2016 16:06:24 GMT
But I think most people who aren't as informed as me or you, would be thinking, "so what's the use, they've called a winner. Why bother standing in this line anymore. Might as well go home." which I think, was the exact response Hillary was hoping for. Now I am not into conspiracies. I don't believe in UFO's or Roswell or that the government knows something and is hiding it. I don't believe in any of the popular conspiracies. I do think Hillary will do anything to win this election. Even go so far as changing those registered Democrats to independents and having a hand in this mess. Bernie was favored to win Arizona. That's my thinking. We'll see. I hope justice is done. The people in Arizona deserve a chance to vote. I don't care who comes out the winner. As long as they get a chance for their voices to be heard. Our country is built on democracy. When things like what happened in Arizona start happening it's a slippery slope away from that to something far worse. Debbie in MD. Not being snarky, just trying to figure out what I might be missing, but.... How would Hilary be sure she was benefitting from this? She would have to have access to all of the voting rolls, access to the ability to change them, and then the knowledge of exactly which registered Democrats supported her and which ones supported Bernie. Then she would have to go through each one and only change the registration of those that supported Bernie so that they couldn't vote. I think the Clintons are savvy politicians who will say and do almost anything to win but I think this is a bit too much even for them. Again, I may be missing something entirely. You are making it much more complicated than it is. Bernie was favored to win Arizona. That's all Hillary had to know. Period. The DNC (Democratic National Committee) is led by Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is as corrupt as they come and is a heavy aligned with Hillary Clinton. I think they had a hand in this. I may be wrong. Yes, it could be just because of the entire mess from the loss of the law on Voting Rights. But I wouldn't put it past them to have a hand in this. Bernie Saunders is predicted to win the next few states. Clinton is probably beginning to panic and in my mind isn't past doing whatever she can, and yes if that means cheating I wouldn't put it past her. Debbie in MD.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 25, 2016 16:16:39 GMT
I was referring to gerrymandering specifically in Texas (although it happens all over the country). We are actually still very lucky when it comes to access in TX (probably because the gerrymandering already makes it impossible to have a fair election). But there are SO many cases all over the country where what I described is true. A simple Google search can confirm. And, politicians ADMIT it's true. I'm gonna go ahead a throw voter ID laws (which TX does have) in the mix, because there have been SEVERAL prominent politicians who have admitted that it has little to do with voter fraud and more to do with suppressing votes. Gottcha. ETA - I mean Thank You, that clarified your post for me. Forgot for a second this was a message board and that could be taken wrong. Oops.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 25, 2016 16:19:10 GMT
I am surprised that more people did not request early ballots. I like to vote on election day itself if I possibly can. It is just something I like. I would be pissed waiting 5 hours to vote. Hell back in the day of having to check in and have them find your name on a list, I never had to wait that long. I think in the 90s I may have had to wait 30 minutes or less. My area...maybe all of Colorado?...has multiple sites and you can choose any one to go to. Since they look you up by computer now, you don't have to go to the one place that has your name on a list. They have them in a bunch of different areas, some big, some little. Some out in the more rural areas have a drop off location only. I've not had to wait longer than 5 minutes, if that since then.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 25, 2016 16:19:58 GMT
Who pays for the polling places? If it is the state then closing places because of money, what are you gonna do, states have to balance their budgets. Yes waiting hours to vote sucks, but having polling places can't be cheap. I am not making a judgement one way or the other just curious btw I hate mailing option, how are they checked, could my house get 5 ballots (5 registered voters) and I fill them all out and send them back? Trust me, they check the signatures on the ballots. My signature must have changed enough in one year for it to trigger a fraudulent ballot alert. I had to send in additional verification that I was who I said I was. I also had 2 men show up at my doorstep to tell me to send in the papers. By the time all of that happened, wouldn't the voter count have already decided who had won?
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 25, 2016 16:25:01 GMT
I am curious, how many of you have the ability to use early voting? We don't have it here and our primary elections are closed. We can vote the two weeks leading up to the election. Most of the areas have one or two places open to vote early.
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Post by flanz on Mar 25, 2016 16:32:03 GMT
Something stinks in AZ and in the DNC overall. Tehy are playing dirty to steal the nomination for Hillary and it pisses me off royally. I'm so glad the Phoeniz mayor is calling for this investigation!! This kind of surprises me. I would have thought that if there was a conspiracy to manipulate votes it would be the other way...I listened to a interview with the Sheriff of Maricopa county the day that there was Trump rally in his area and I am pretty sure he swings the other way. Anyway, as to the question of would I wait in line? Yes. Have I? Yes. But never more than about 10 minutes. We have so many polling locations that you can't throw a rock without hitting one. I have been voting in the same church lunchroom for 20 years and if I wasn't such a lazy girl I could walk there. I've read that in some places in Phoenix which were not likely to be Hillary-friendly, there was one polling place for either 20 or 40 THOUSAND voters!!!
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Post by pb on Mar 25, 2016 17:05:19 GMT
Not being snarky, just trying to figure out what I might be missing, but.... How would Hilary be sure she was benefitting from this? She would have to have access to all of the voting rolls, access to the ability to change them, and then the knowledge of exactly which registered Democrats supported her and which ones supported Bernie. Then she would have to go through each one and only change the registration of those that supported Bernie so that they couldn't vote. I think the Clintons are savvy politicians who will say and do almost anything to win but I think this is a bit too much even for them. Again, I may be missing something entirely. You are making it much more complicated than it is. Bernie was favored to win Arizona. That's all Hillary had to know. Period. The DNC (Democratic National Committee) is led by Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is as corrupt as they come and is a heavy aligned with Hillary Clinton. I think they had a hand in this. I may be wrong. Yes, it could be just because of the entire mess from the loss of the law on Voting Rights. But I wouldn't put it past them to have a hand in this. Bernie Saunders is predicted to win the next few states. Clinton is probably beginning to panic and in my mind isn't past doing whatever she can, and yes if that means cheating I wouldn't put it past her. Debbie in MD. I am confused. I though Most of the polls I saw showed Hillary favored to win Arizona. Bernie is favored to win in Washinton, which is Saturday because it is a caucus state. I have seen and heard Bernie ads on tv and radio but nothing from Hillary. We get flyers but that's about all.
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