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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 3, 2016 19:48:29 GMT
Of course, anyone can chime in but I was just curious about what you will do if the Republican establishment decides that neither Cruz nor Trump is their guy and puts forward another candidate to run for president. Will you still vote? Stay home? I have been thinking a lot about this and I am really in a conundrum. I dislike Trump and think he would be a horrible president, and although I do like Cruz, I don't think he is right man for the job so a new face intrigues me. What leaves a very bad taste in my mouth is the thought that at the end of the day, the primaries don't matter and all the time, energy, and money the candidates put into the race as well as the voice of the people is ignored in order to put up a candidate the "establishment" deems acceptable. That is not the way our process is supposed to work. Now, I know there is a a lot that would have to happen for this to become reality but this has been a bizarre election cycle.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 3, 2016 20:34:18 GMT
Would't it be interesting if the Republican party *did* put forth a new candidate that was moderate enough (to counter balance the very very conservative Trump or Cruz) that it appealed to the more conservative Democrats??
That would be a smart move really. Find someone that is conservative enough for the Republicans and moderate enough to give pause to the frustrated democrats...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 20:38:45 GMT
It will totally depend on who that mystery person might be. I want to vote, but this is the first time in my voting life that I have even toyed with the idea of possibly not voting for president. My state will go for the Democrat no matter who it is, so my vote doesn't really "count" anyway, but I hate the thought of not casting it.
I also believe the process is working the way it's supposed to. The Republican Party is a closed or private party. They don't have to bend to the general will of the people, only to their own establishment. The people always have the freedom to vote outside the party system and not be a part of the party system at all. It's crappy because the chances of someone outside the parties being a viable candidate is next to zero, but that's how it works for now. I hate the primary system, but I don't see it changing (and wouldn't know exactly how to change it) in my lifetime.
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 3, 2016 20:50:24 GMT
Would't it be interesting if the Republican party *did* put forth a new candidate that was moderate enough (to counter balance the very very conservative Trump or Cruz) that it appealed to the more conservative Democrats?? That would be a smart move really. Find someone that is conservative enough for the Republicans and moderate enough to give pause to the frustrated democrats... That is why it intrigues me so much. I just wonder if people that are die hard Trump/Cruz people will vote or stay home.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 3, 2016 20:56:56 GMT
Would't it be interesting if the Republican party *did* put forth a new candidate that was moderate enough (to counter balance the very very conservative Trump or Cruz) that it appealed to the more conservative Democrats?? That would be a smart move really. Find someone that is conservative enough for the Republicans and moderate enough to give pause to the frustrated democrats... That is why it intrigues me so much. I just wonder if people that are die hard Trump/Cruz people will vote or stay home. I don't know, but I would be willing to be the number of moderates from both sides outnumber the die hard Trump/Cruz fans enough that the numbers might be there whether they stay home or not.
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Post by zookeeper on Apr 3, 2016 21:23:56 GMT
I would love a moderate choice as a Republican candidate. It would be preferred over both Trump and Cruz. I am actually praying that this is what happens.
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Post by katybee on Apr 3, 2016 21:34:33 GMT
No matter what happens – I think it will be ugly. I do not envy you guys.
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Post by AnotherPea on Apr 3, 2016 21:37:54 GMT
I would be thrilled if they put another person out there. Not republican but not a Hillary or Bernie fan either.
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Post by verdepea on Apr 3, 2016 21:43:21 GMT
But what about the delegate votes already earned by the existing candidates? It would be a real shit storm if amother candidate (on either side) entered now. I think a lot of voters would see that as a slap in the face so to speak. That seems like political suicide for the partY because it will further weaken the party.
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Post by grammyj64 on Apr 3, 2016 21:49:58 GMT
I used to vote republican but have not in the last several elections. My reason: as rs has gotten more conservative they have been interfering more and more with people, especially women's, personal life decisions. When or if the reps quit basing their laws on their personal religious belief and leave religion to the churches, then I might give Repubs my vote. Until then I will continue to vote for democrats.
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Post by caro on Apr 3, 2016 21:50:59 GMT
It's discouraging to think it may be Trump vs Hillary. I do not want to vote for either or Cruz either for that matter. I can't back any candidate at the moment.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Apr 3, 2016 21:53:36 GMT
I don't know how I would feel. I don't want to vote for either and don't think either would help our country but I can't think of anyone that was in the debates I would feel good about either. I just keep thinking that this is the best we can do then we are screwed. I also see the argument of them coming in and changing the vote basically I don't feel that is right either. At this point I think it's too late but then again I keep hoping I will wake up and the last year was just a bad dream.
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Post by zookeeper on Apr 3, 2016 21:56:37 GMT
as rs has gotten more conservative they have been interfering more and more with people, especially women's, personal life decisions. When or if the reps quit basing their laws on their personal religious belief and leave religion to the churches, This is exactly my issue with the Rep party. I also cannot stand Hillary or Bernie. I firmly believe that the Rep party will not have a solid chance again until they remove the religious stance from their platform. I want a fiscally conservative President who is moderate on social issues. Does that candidate even exist? That is the candidate that I believe the majority of Americans want.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 3, 2016 22:15:21 GMT
So, I am a registered Republican who would not vote for Trump or Cruz. I live in Colorado, so our delegates are undecided. Our caucus didn't matter from the get-go.
That said, it would depend on who the Republicans put forth whether I would vote for them or not. Currently, if the SCOTUS seat is still open, I will vote Democrat no matter who the candidate is. If the seat is filled, then I could vote Republican if the right candidate emerged.
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Post by Peamac on Apr 3, 2016 22:23:42 GMT
I wouldn't stay home and NOT vote, because that's just a vote for the opposing party.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 22:33:40 GMT
I wouldn't stay home and NOT vote, because that's just a vote for the opposing party. This. But I'm not in line for any manipulation of the system at all no matter who is or isn't the candidate.
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Post by sasha on Apr 3, 2016 22:40:17 GMT
I cannot stand Cruz or Trump, so I'd be okay with that. I'm an unusual Republican -- I don't like the ultra right wing that has taken over the party. I want fiscal responsibility, strong security and a government that stays out of bedrooms and reproduction.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Apr 3, 2016 22:46:48 GMT
... That said, it would depend on who the Republicans put forth whether I would vote for them or not. Currently, if the SCOTUS seat is still open, I will vote Democrat no matter who the candidate is. If the seat is filled, then I could vote Republican if the right candidate emerged. This is where I sit. The Reps have a chance of getting my vote if they do not block approval of the SCOTUS seat. If they block it and it's still open in November, then I will vote Dem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 22:48:04 GMT
It's not over till there's a newly elected president. I would consider all options that come our way.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 3, 2016 22:54:15 GMT
I cannot stand Cruz or Trump, so I'd be okay with that. I'm an unusual Republican -- I don't like the ultra right wing that has taken over the party. I want fiscal responsibility, strong security and a government that stays out of bedrooms and reproduction. I don't think you are unusual. I think we are not represented and not heard. I want the smaller government that used to be the goal of the GOP. I don't believe the gov't should limit social issues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 22:57:04 GMT
Good question.
It's one thing if your "guy" doesn't get enough votes to win but at least the other guy went through the primary process.
But to pick some other guy or gal that didn't go through the primary process but instead was chosen by some guys by deal making in the backroom would I'm pretty sure piss me off enough to stay home on Election Day.
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Post by Sassenach on Apr 3, 2016 22:58:02 GMT
I cannot stand Cruz or Trump, so I'd be okay with that. I'm an unusual Republican -- I don't like the ultra right wing that has taken over the party. I want fiscal responsibility, strong security and a government that stays out of bedrooms and reproduction. This! Exactly!
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Post by joylynaroundthebnd on Apr 3, 2016 23:03:12 GMT
I will vote Republican, regardless of the nominee. I will be very surprised if Trump gets the nomination, although a part of me wishes he would.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Apr 3, 2016 23:08:40 GMT
... That said, it would depend on who the Republicans put forth whether I would vote for them or not. Currently, if the SCOTUS seat is still open, I will vote Democrat no matter who the candidate is. If the seat is filled, then I could vote Republican if the right candidate emerged. This is where I sit. The Reps have a chance of getting my vote if they do not block approval of the SCOTUS seat. If they block it and it's still open in November, then I will vote Dem. Honest question: why? Because don't forget it's possible for one - or more than one - seat to come open during the next presidency. If you're hoping for a Democratic president to fill the currently available seat, why wouldn't you want the next president to be a Democrat as well, to continue that pattern? Or is it just that if the current seat isn't filled you'll vote Democratic just to make a point about the Senate doing their jobs instead of obstructing?
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Post by scrapaddie on Apr 4, 2016 1:16:22 GMT
Of course I will vote! It is my right and my duty! Now who I will vote for, that I don't know. Right now I only know who I will not vote for!
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Post by artbabe on Apr 4, 2016 1:27:53 GMT
I would love it if we dumped Trump and Cruz. I can't vote for either one of those men. Not in a million years.
I'm a fiscal conservative but I also hate that the Republicans have tied themselves to conservative Christian ideas- I'm fairly socially liberal.
I can't vote for Hilary (I just think she is a bad person) and I can't vote for Sanders (Socialist).
So I'm stuck. Just stuck. Weirdest election ever.
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Post by zookeeper on Apr 4, 2016 1:32:53 GMT
I'm a fiscal conservative but I also hate that the Republicans have tied themselves to conservative Christian ideas- I'm fairly socially liberal. I don't understand how so many Americans feel this way yet NONE of the candidates left fit the bill. Seriously? Where is the break down?
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Post by alexa11 on Apr 4, 2016 1:37:39 GMT
as rs has gotten more conservative they have been interfering more and more with people, especially women's, personal life decisions. When or if the reps quit basing their laws on their personal religious belief and leave religion to the churches, This is exactly my issue with the Rep party. I also cannot stand Hillary or Bernie. I firmly believe that the Rep party will not have a solid chance again until they remove the religious stance from their platform. I want a fiscally conservative President who is moderate on social issues. Does that candidate even exist? That is the candidate that I believe the majority of Americans want.This- a million times!
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 4, 2016 1:44:34 GMT
This is where I sit. The Reps have a chance of getting my vote if they do not block approval of the SCOTUS seat. If they block it and it's still open in November, then I will vote Dem. Honest question: why? Because don't forget it's possible for one - or more than one - seat to come open during the next presidency. If you're hoping for a Democratic president to fill the currently available seat, why wouldn't you want the next president to be a Democrat as well, to continue that pattern? Or is it just that if the current seat isn't filled you'll vote Democratic just to make a point about the Senate doing their jobs instead of obstructing? yes to the pissed off at the senate. Also because I think not confirming is stupid because I don't think the Republican is going to win and we are going to get someone even more liberal rather than a left leaning centrist
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Post by stampinchick on Apr 4, 2016 4:06:27 GMT
I am a fiscal and social conservative. I will NEVER vote for Trump. And I can't stand Cruz. If Cruz is the nominee I will vote for him while trying to keep from vomiting. If Trump is the nominee I will vote, but not for him - I will do a write-in vote just so I can voice that I didn't want any of the candidates on the ballot. I don't know who my write-in vote would be yet. Hillary and Bernie are not even possibilities for me - they are just as bad as Trump.
If the GOP puts forth another candidate it could be interesting. Depending on who it is they just might get my vote.
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