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Post by krazykatlady on Apr 4, 2016 17:30:08 GMT
Reading the grocery store etiquette thread reminded me of an experience this weekend. There are several fast food places here where you place you order and then have to wait for them to call your number or name to pick it up. Inevitably when I get to the pickup counter there's a person or two standing right in front, refusing to move so I can get to my food. This weekend I may or may not have accidentally stepped on someone's foot after saying "excuse me" got no response. And I don't even care that I got called a heifer. At least I'm a heifer with manners and consideration for others.
It seems to me that so many in our society today have no regard for others. They only think about themselves. And for the record, this "me generation" is made up of all ages, races, and genders.
ETA - I acknowledge that stepping on his foot was childish and wrong on my part. Not my finest moment. But, I'm still annoyed that people can't step back away from the counter while they wait so others can get to their order when it comes up. "Your" hovering is not going to make your food appear faster!
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Post by scrappert on Apr 4, 2016 17:38:24 GMT
Yes, I have had that happen to me many times. What makes you think, that after you order you walk in front of the pick up counter? Yours is going to be there that fast??? Do you not see all the other people waiting for their stuff?! Get your ass to the back of the line.
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Post by anonrefugee on Apr 4, 2016 17:41:10 GMT
I understand your frustration, but as someone with a hearing loss I find your action appalling.
Why didn't you tap them on the shoulder?
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Post by krazykatlady on Apr 4, 2016 17:44:35 GMT
I understand your frustration, but as someone with a hearing loss I find your action appalling. Why didn't you tap them on the shoulder? Because they were looking right at me as they leaned with their backside against the counter. They knew exactly what I said and why.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 4, 2016 17:44:57 GMT
Reading the grocery store etiquette thread reminded me of an experience this weekend. There are several fast food places here where you place you order and then have to wait for them to call your number or name to pick it up. Inevitably when I get to the pickup counter there's a person or two standing right in front, refusing to move so I can get to my food. This weekend I may or may not have accidentally stepped on someone's foot after saying "excuse me" got no response. And I don't even care that I got called a heifer. At least I'm a heifer with manners and consideration for others. It seems to me that so many in our society today have no regard for others. They only think about themselves. And for the record, this "me generation" is made up of all ages, races, and genders. I agree and it doesn't matter if it's in a restaurant, grocery store, movie theater or on the road
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 4, 2016 17:45:43 GMT
They probably just didn't hear you. I know a couple of fast food places like that here are really loud.
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Post by sharlag on Apr 4, 2016 17:50:03 GMT
I feel like some sort of out-of-orbit satellite in those situations.
There is no 'pick up counter' in some of these places, so you are supposed to step back to.... where?
Out of the way of those who haven't ordered, of course. Next to the catsup and napkin bar? Over by the exit?
You look like someone who is waiting in the order line, if there isn't much room. So people are all, "Are you next?" you're all "No, you go ahead, I've already ordered."
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Post by raindancer on Apr 4, 2016 18:31:25 GMT
I feel like your post is rather ironic. Since you made it about you and felt so entitled to get to the counter that you would be so rude as to intentionally step on someone's foot.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Apr 4, 2016 18:33:11 GMT
We went to a free magic show this past Saturday that was held in the town square where we live. The city hall has an open area in front of it where people can set up chairs and the entertainment performs on the steps of the building. The events are often very popular for families, especially when the weather is nice like it was. The square is surrounded by retail and restaurants and draws lots of people outside of events as well. There is a Starbucks directly across from the square that gets very, very busy. The staff often have to do cleaning tasks even when there are lots of people in the store because it is just that busy.
I went in there Saturday, ordered a hot tea, and then went to the side bar (which is kind of tucked into an odd corner) to get Splenda. A young employee was there, changing the trash bag in the container that sits under the counter (where the trash goes after you throw it in the opening). I waited patiently, knowing it would not take long for him to finish pulling the old trash, re-lining the can and then placing the can back inside the counter. I watched no fewer than 3 people squeeze past me, and the poor guy trying to do his trash duty, just to reach sort of around the employee so they could get a stir stick, sugar packet, or whatever else it was they felt the could not wait 15 more seconds for. The poor employee ended up having to stop what he was doing all three times just to make room for the jackasses.
When did life get so busy that people can't wait patiently for their turn?
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Post by leannec on Apr 4, 2016 18:39:50 GMT
As I said on the other thread, I just don't see this sort of stuff here in Canada ... we are obviously overly polite
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Post by *leslie* on Apr 4, 2016 18:53:59 GMT
They probably just didn't hear you. I know a couple of fast food places like that here are really loud. I agree. In N Out Burger is so loud that sometimes you can barely hear your number being called
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Post by bluepoprocks on Apr 4, 2016 19:00:15 GMT
We have a kielbasa shop that is extremely busy at Christmas and Easter. So busy that the line is often out the door and down the block. The people in line are so rude. It's a tiny place, everyone knows it's tiny but the people in line keep pushing themselves into the building instead of waiting outside for someone else to come out. You have to take a number when you get inside. Many people take their number and push their way up to the counter and then won't move. I don't understand because they won't get waited on any faster up there, everyone has a number.
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Post by krazykatlady on Apr 4, 2016 19:05:26 GMT
I feel like your post is rather ironic. Since you made it about you and felt so entitled to get to the counter that you would be so rude as to intentionally step on someone's foot. So in order to not appear entitled I'm supposed to let me order sit on the counter until after their food comes up and they move? And I WAS entitled in the sense that MY number was called to come pickup my order. I'll give that the foot stepping was childish on my part but there's no reason why they had to be right in front blocking everyone else.
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Post by raindancer on Apr 4, 2016 20:00:06 GMT
I feel like your post is rather ironic. Since you made it about you and felt so entitled to get to the counter that you would be so rude as to intentionally step on someone's foot. So in order to not appear entitled I'm supposed to let me order sit on the counter until after their food comes up and they move? And I WAS entitled in the sense that MY number was called to come pickup my order. I'll give that the foot stepping was childish on my part but there's no reason why they had to be right in front blocking everyone else. You are right, they were rude. And it was not only childish, it was also rude. You could have asked again louder, or yes, waited. You can't have it both ways. You can't say that other people are rude and you don't understand it, then go on to be equally, if not more rude in an effort to what...teach them a lesson to not be rude? Sometimes people are thoughtless. I'm sure you have been plenty thoughtless on occasion without intending to be rude. Here is an example. My dh hates when we go to costco and people get in and make a dead stop to put their cards back in their purses or wallets. He comments to me every time it happens, which is almost every time because it's what people do. What did he do today without even thinking? He stopped dead center to put his card in his wallet. He did exactly what he complains about, without thinking, because sometimes we do that. So yes, I think you could have asked again and not been rude. I also think we should remember to extend the same courtesy to others in a moment of thoughtlessness that we expect to be extended to us when we do the exact same thing. I can't imagine you have never been in someone's way before, would you expect them to step on your foot for it?
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Post by krazykatlady on Apr 4, 2016 20:50:14 GMT
So in order to not appear entitled I'm supposed to let me order sit on the counter until after their food comes up and they move? And I WAS entitled in the sense that MY number was called to come pickup my order. I'll give that the foot stepping was childish on my part but there's no reason why they had to be right in front blocking everyone else. You are right, they were rude. And it was not only childish, it was also rude. You could have asked again louder, or yes, waited. You can't have it both ways. You can't say that other people are rude and you don't understand it, then go on to be equally, if not more rude in an effort to what...teach them a lesson to not be rude? Sometimes people are thoughtless. I'm sure you have been plenty thoughtless on occasion without intending to be rude. Here is an example. My dh hates when we go to costco and people get in and make a dead stop to put their cards back in their purses or wallets. He comments to me every time it happens, which is almost every time because it's what people do. What did he do today without even thinking? He stopped dead center to put his card in his wallet. He did exactly what he complains about, without thinking, because sometimes we do that. So yes, I think you could have asked again and not been rude. I also think we should remember to extend the same courtesy to others in a moment of thoughtlessness that we expect to be extended to us when we do the exact same thing. I can't imagine you have never been in someone's way before, would you expect them to step on your foot for it? You're right. I was in the wrong. Thank you for setting me straight.
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Post by Zee on Apr 4, 2016 20:52:57 GMT
I think there was something wrong with that person, but your saying you're a heifer with manners after telling us you stepped on someone's foot made me LOL.
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Post by krazykatlady on Apr 4, 2016 21:02:14 GMT
I think there was something wrong with that person, but your saying you're a heifer with manners after telling us you stepped on someone's foot made me LOL. Yes, obviously not one of my finer moments
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Post by christine58 on Apr 4, 2016 21:12:49 GMT
I understand your frustration, but as someone with a hearing loss I find your action appalling. Why didn't you tap them on the shoulder? Because she then would have been accused of assault if they were that big of idiots to at least not move. I bet they heard her.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 4, 2016 21:15:06 GMT
As I said on the other thread, I just don't see this sort of stuff here in Canada ... we are obviously overly polite Oh I've seen it when visiting my cousins in Ontario....
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Post by leannec on Apr 4, 2016 21:20:58 GMT
As I said on the other thread, I just don't see this sort of stuff here in Canada ... we are obviously overly polite Oh I've seen it when visiting my cousins in Ontario.... Then maybe it's an Alberta thing
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Post by anonrefugee on Apr 4, 2016 22:03:04 GMT
I understand your frustration, but as someone with a hearing loss I find your action appalling. Why didn't you tap them on the shoulder? Because she then would have been accused of assault if they were that big of idiots to at least not move. I bet they heard her. Tapping on shoulder is assault? But deliberately stepping on someone isn't?
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 4, 2016 23:00:14 GMT
I always feel like I am getting punked during events like this and make awesome facial expressions at cameras I can't see. I also have a really loud voice if I need to say something three times.
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Post by not2peased on Apr 5, 2016 15:40:08 GMT
IME, many cases of "rude" behavior are unintentional on the part of the person exhibiting it. For example, I have been standing in someone's way and have been quite unaware of it-nothing intentional, that is for sure.
as for saying excuse me, I am pretty young to have hearing loss, but I do. I often truly don't hear someone speaking to me-especially if they are not directly in front of me.
I tend to assume people don't mean to be rude and go out in the world acting as such. it leads to mostly positive experiences with my fellow man
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Apr 5, 2016 16:20:02 GMT
........ When did life get so busy that people can't wait patiently for their turn? You took the words right out of my head!! My DH only worked in a public service job for about 6 months when he was young, about 19. He has no patience at all with fast food, grocery check out, etc. I am constantly telling him to have patience with others. And ask him how would he feel if it were him, our daughter or grandchild, being treated that way. I remind him that the staff behind the counter doesn't make the rules but they have to follow them. And if he doesn't like the rules, go to the corporate level and complain.
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Post by Fidget on Apr 5, 2016 16:29:56 GMT
When they called your number you could have replied (very loudly) that you could not get through to the counter, could they please bring your order around for you. I think this is partly the establishments fault, one of the workers should politely ask the customers to wait to the side rather than blocking the counter.
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Post by nlwilkins on Apr 5, 2016 17:04:19 GMT
When they called your number you could have replied (very loudly) that you could not get through to the counter, could they please bring your order around for you. I think this is partly the establishments fault, one of the workers should politely ask the customers to wait to the side rather than blocking the counter. This is my thought. The staff should be asking the customers to step back BEFORE anyone's order comes up.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 5, 2016 17:11:42 GMT
IME, many cases of "rude" behavior are unintentional on the part of the person exhibiting it. For example, I have been standing in someone's way and have been quite unaware of it-nothing intentional, that is for sure. as for saying excuse me, I am pretty young to have hearing loss, but I do. I often truly don't hear someone speaking to me-especially if they are not directly in front of me. I tend to assume people don't mean to be rude and go out in the world acting as such. it leads to mostly positive experiences with my fellow man I totally agree with this line of thinking. I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt too. I really don't believe most people are trying to be rude. Sure there are a few people I know who go through life only seeing things from their own perspective and not caring much about their fellow man, but most people are simply trying to get by. Or are in a hurry.
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Post by moveablefeast on Apr 5, 2016 17:59:53 GMT
IME, many cases of "rude" behavior are unintentional on the part of the person exhibiting it. For example, I have been standing in someone's way and have been quite unaware of it-nothing intentional, that is for sure. as for saying excuse me, I am pretty young to have hearing loss, but I do. I often truly don't hear someone speaking to me-especially if they are not directly in front of me. I tend to assume people don't mean to be rude and go out in the world acting as such. it leads to mostly positive experiences with my fellow man My DH has 75% hearing loss (not correctable until and unless he gets his implant) and has since his thirties. If you're behind him and you say excuse me - he's not ignoring you, he actually doesn't hear you. He truly isn't being rude. He just doesn't know you're there. You just have to touch his shoulder or move into his field of vision.
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