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Post by katlady on Apr 5, 2016 16:59:43 GMT
Just a little rambling after reading some of the recent threads. Do you think that maybe modern technology is in part to blame for what seems to be a rise in impatience, rudeness, and just being busy all the time? For one, we expect on-line orders to be delivered within 2-3 days of ordering. The acceptable wait times for things has shrunk. We are always in a rush these days. Second, people multi-task so much now days. Conducting business on the phone while checking out at the register or while watching your kids at baseball practice. You get caught up in one thing that you come across as rude because you don't move up in line or pay attention to someone talking to you. Being "busy" has become the new acceptable norm. We now have so many time-saving devices, that we plan even more things to do. And we do it all while still staying connected to our phones. Pretty soon, we may one day all have internet chips implanted in our brains so we don't even have to carry phones.
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Post by tincin on Apr 5, 2016 17:10:25 GMT
I think there is some truth to that. We, as a whole, have become a very impatient world. People seem to feel the need to fill every moment with something. I can't remember the last time I just went over to someone's house to sit and visit or play cards. Or the last time I was in a group of people and most of them weren't engaged with their devices.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 5, 2016 17:11:11 GMT
I agree. Soometimes DH and I notice that it's nice on the rare occasion we don't have our phone with us. Having the phone is even a way to wind down at night. He plays Words with Friends in bed (with loud notifications) and I often play Trivia Crack. I guess it's like having a book. I think people think they look like they're brokering the next big deal while they're on their phone when really, they're probably texting their kid about what's for dinner. I like my phone as much as the next person but it does become a social crutch especially when alone. If you notice at Starbucks or similar places, most people are on a device. it can make you oblivious to your surroundings.
DH has commented too that people seem more frazzled nowadays. We were saying it may relate to never being "off the clock." People expect to reach you nearly 24/7 now so there isn't much time to decompress and get away from the work stress/home life. Just my two cents.
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Post by katlady on Apr 5, 2016 17:14:24 GMT
DH has commented too that people seem more frazzled nowadays. We were saying it may relate to never being "off the clock." People expect to reach you nearly 24/7 now so there isn't much time to decompress and get away from the work stress/home life. Just my two cents. Yes, this! At my SO's work place, they have the option to get part of their cell phone bill paid for, IF they put their cell phone number in the company directory. My SO opted out, thankfully!!
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Post by annabella on Apr 5, 2016 17:18:24 GMT
I think friends should not cancel plans via text. It's very impersonal and rude.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Apr 5, 2016 17:26:37 GMT
Just a little rambling after reading some of the recent threads. Do you think that maybe modern technology is in part to blame for what seems to be a rise in impatience, rudeness, and just being busy all the time?
For one, we expect on-line orders to be delivered within 2-3 days of ordering. The acceptable wait times for things has shrunk. We are always in a rush these days. Second, people multi-task so much now days. Conducting business on the phone while checking out at the register or while watching your kids at baseball practice. You get caught up in one thing that you come across as rude because you don't move up in line or pay attention to someone talking to you. Being "busy" has become the new acceptable norm. We now have so many time-saving devices, that we plan even more things to do. And we do it all while still staying connected to our phones. Pretty soon, we may one day all have internet chips implanted in our brains so we don't even have to carry phones. I absolutely believe this is true.
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Post by gar on Apr 5, 2016 17:27:00 GMT
Its almost as if we think we're missing out if we're not constantly connected. I was waiting in the doctor's recently and couldn't use my phone so I found myself just sitting, watching and thinking.....and I couldn't remember the last time I had done that!
As faster deliveries, smarter technology comes along we're impatient for everything else to catch up but I wouldn't be surprised if we see a reversal in a few years (decade?) time and the pendulum will swing back to a slower pace being more desirable.
Eta, somehow it almost seems cool to be busy, rushing, in demand and almost selfish in the "Me me!!" society.
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Post by annabella on Apr 5, 2016 17:37:33 GMT
I've noticed on the subway that no one is ever looking around. Everyone is playing games on their phone or flipping through instagram pics. It's like people can't be bored anymore, they always need stimulation.
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Post by katlady on Apr 5, 2016 17:38:43 GMT
Eta, somehow it almost seems cool to be busy, rushing, in demand and almost selfish in the "Me me!!" society.
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Post by katlady on Apr 5, 2016 17:41:20 GMT
I've noticed on the subway that no one is every looking around. Everyone is playing games on their phone or flipping through instagram pics. It's like people can't be bored anymore, they always need stimulation. I will admit that I can be guilty of this. Some of it is a desire to keep others from bothering me on public transportation. Other times, it is the only time I have to check my phone. But, I am trying to do it less, trying!
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 5, 2016 17:52:09 GMT
I've noticed on the subway that no one is ever looking around. Everyone is playing games on their phone or flipping through instagram pics. It's like people can't be bored anymore, they always need stimulation. I'm one of those people you see in public because I rarely do much on my phone at home. If everyone is home, I usually don't have it nearby. If I'm by myself, it's pure bliss to play a game uninterrupted!
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Post by penny on Apr 5, 2016 17:58:08 GMT
Eta, somehow it almost seems cool to be busy, rushing, in demand and almost selfish in the "Me me!!" society. I agree with this so much too... It's cool to be busy - to be in demand, to have people contacting/needing you, to have to get back to them with your opinion, etc... And it feeds itself... They need you so the 'polite' thing is to ask them something to show you need them too, and it continues on... I've been asked (twice), is everything was okay/if I was okay because I didn't have my phone out... After I said I was fine, they said they were worried I was in a fight (1st), or not invited (2nd), with my friends... It was funny to me but I also felt really self conscious at the same time... Hadn't thought I looked so pathetic and lonely...lol Sometimes it reminds me a bit of smokers - when I was really young those were the cool kids... Standing around outside, taking a break, having a smoke... Now I see people doing that but with phones in their hand instead of cigarettes... Still, if you go stand outside without your phone out (or smoke in hand), people wonder what you're doing - why you're just standing there in your break... I think doing nothing unnerves people but if you have your phone out they get what you're doing and you're not a threat... Modern survival...lol
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Post by scrapperal on Apr 5, 2016 18:00:13 GMT
I agree that technology has made us more impatient. That and Amazon Prime (overnight delivery). I was checking an online order because it was "taking too long," almost two weeks! But I ordered during a sale so they're probably busy; it was a custom item, which probably takes longer; they are a small business; and they're sending USPS, so who knows how long that will take. Considering all that, two weeks really isn't that long. I'll be waiting another few days before I inquire where my order is. I've noticed if I don't reply to a personal text/voicemail/email "immediately," sometimes the sender becomes impatient. I'm one of those odd ducks that isn't attached to my cell phone 24/7. If I'm at a meeting at work, I don't bring my cell phone or if I do, I don't answer unless I am expecting a call. If I'm at home, my cell phone is often in my purse. I don't have it next to me when I'm eating dinner.
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Post by krc11 on Apr 5, 2016 18:11:05 GMT
I find myself more patient with my phone. Whereas, I may wait in line or at the doctor's office for a good long while, if I'm entertained by checking emails/FB on my phone. If I was just standing there waiting, with nothing to do, I'd be tapping my toe.
I do think that people can get too tied up in their phone, that they don't notice the line moves, etc. If they gracefully accept a gentle reminder that the line moved, no problem. It's when they cop an attitude is when I have an issue.
I don't want someone on their phone the bulk of the time, if I have made time to meet and visit them. I get nothing from watching you play on your phone/talk on your phone at dinner. An excuse me if you have to take a call and then cut it short.
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Post by Prenticekid on Apr 5, 2016 18:32:25 GMT
I think another factor is that 25 years ago or so people stopped disciplining their children about a lot of things, and started requiring that everything be fair to their child. I remember watching it happen, all of the sudden children were no longer responsible for their conduct and everyone had to get a trophy. LOL I think that has caused people to be both entitled and judgmental. Not only are people rude over the smallest thing, but they also have started demanding apologies and/or terminations over the smallest infractions. Peas, for instance, have a long history of wanting to fire workers over rather insignificant things like a retail worker who didn't properly handle a transaction. (And, I'm not even referring to turkeygate! LOL) I think that the impatience and rudeness we experience now is a combination of technology and entitlement/being judgmental.
I never have a problem waiting for an order unless it has been promised by a certain time and it didn't arrive. Even then I give the sender the benefit of a doubt. I remember when it took "6-8 weeks" for anything to come in the mail from catalogs and such. That waiting for packages example is the "I walked 10 miles in the snow to get to school" story that I tell to my kids! LOL
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Post by anniefb on Apr 5, 2016 18:49:32 GMT
I think there is some truth to that. We, as a whole, have become a very impatient world. People seem to feel the need to fill every moment with something. I can't remember the last time I just went over to someone's house to sit and visit or play cards. Or the last time I was in a group of people and most of them weren't engaged with their devices. So true. Went out to breakfast with a few friends the other weekend and we were all sitting there taking photos with our phones, checking emails etc. Not the whole time, but it definitely made me think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:09:51 GMT
Maybe. But the technology that allows me to read my book on my phone while sitting in a doctor's office makes me very happy. I don't have to lug around books anymore. Isn't it the best? I used to take practically an entire suitcase of books with me on vacation. Now I can take a hundred with me, and it still fits in my purse. Pure bliss for an introvert.
I don't know, I still go to lunch and have coffee with friends, and no phones or devices are out.
I never seem to run into all the really rude people that peas do. I like going grocery shopping, and chat with the cashier and people in line and can't remember ever having the nastiness that peas seem to see. I like my kids' friends, and their parents are nice, too.
I often wonder if I'm the jerk everyone else is talking about and I'm just oblivious to it, LOL.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 5, 2016 19:13:38 GMT
Eta, somehow it almost seems cool to be busy, rushing, in demand and almost selfish in the "Me me!!" society. Someone here has the quote 'Stop the glorification of busy.' in their signature or photo bar
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Post by Kerri W on Apr 5, 2016 19:37:48 GMT
In general I'm not judgy about people and their phones. Sometimes I simply need to work from my phone. I'm not on my phone 24/7 and I actually *do* make time to do "nothing" so personally I feel like I'm fine. I try to keep that in mind when I see other people with their phones. Being able to work from our phones has freed DH and I both up to do a lot of stuff we would normally not be able to do with our kids.
I will say however, the past two weeks we have had 2-3 instances at work where clients have been absolutely IRATE they were not responded to within minutes...on a weekend...after regular business hours...when they had already been told their agent was spending time with family. Their response was absolutely ridiculous! These were not time sensitive questions in the least. They simply wanted additional information, which we would have to request from a government office during business hours, and were furious that the response they got was "I got your text/email and just wanted to let you know I'm out of the office. I will check on that first thing Monday morning and give you a call as soon as I have the information."
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Post by Julie W on Apr 5, 2016 20:20:43 GMT
Just a little rambling after reading some of the recent threads. Do you think that maybe modern technology is in part to blame for what seems to be a rise in impatience, rudeness, and just being busy all the time? This reminds me of an article I read 4-5 months back about a well known and established restaurant, I think in NYC and Chicago. They had successfully been in business for years, but as of the past several years, they were getting more and more complaints about the length their service was taking. So they commissioned a time study, and they actually found that the reason their service was taking longer was actually all the customers on their cellphones doing their business, keeping the servers waiting when trying to get their order in, and in general the patrons weren't aware they were holding themselves up. I found that fascinating.
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Post by tracym1 on Apr 5, 2016 23:50:41 GMT
Hijack: But there is a YA book from about 2006 that imagines this exact same scenario. It's one of the most terrifying things I've ever read: Feed by MT Anderson.
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