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Post by freecharlie on Apr 19, 2016 4:11:44 GMT
The lunch money thread had me wondering how many schools had open or closed campus.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 19, 2016 4:12:45 GMT
At both my child's school and the one I teach at all grades (9th-12th) may leave for lunch. We have 35 minutes lunches.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 19, 2016 4:13:42 GMT
The thing I wondered about in that thread was the time.
An HOUR for lunch!
Here in schools kids have 25 minutes. And that's to make it through the line, eat, clean up, and be in line to be picked up.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 19, 2016 4:14:55 GMT
When I was in high school our lunch hours lined up with classes, so we had 50 minutes for lunch.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Apr 19, 2016 4:19:32 GMT
When I was in high school, you could leave for lunch-- there were a couple of places close by but more to the point, the cafeteria was literally not big enough for all the students in a given lunch period.
After they built a new high school, I think they closed campus-- it isn't built near any food places, and even if you have a car, it would be a pretty tight 25 minutes.
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Post by Jili on Apr 19, 2016 4:38:51 GMT
At my dd's school, the juniors and seniors can leave if parent permission is on file. My older dd used to leave sometimes, but unless you have a car, it isn't really worthwhile to do it. It's too far to walk anyplace but home, and even then, you lose time there and back.
Lunch is 48 minutes. It's a long time, but it works out well. Dd has no study hall. If she needs to take a test, go for extra help, go to a band sectional, or meet with a counselor, it all has to happen during lunch. More often than not, she eats and then goes off to band or whatever else she needs to do.
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 19, 2016 4:41:57 GMT
Yes, but only sophomores or older (no freshman). You have to buy an off campus pass for $10. Your parents have to sign for the pass.
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Post by holly on Apr 19, 2016 4:54:21 GMT
Nope, closed campus here. I like it like that. I went to school with an open campus. There were many days we didn't come back after lunch. I don't remember how long our lunch was, somewhere around 45 min. Long enough for us to drive to a fast food place 10-15 min away, eat there and drive back. If you didn't have a car, you could walk to a Mexican restaurant that was a couple blocks away or a gas station in the opposite direction. My kids get 25 min for lunch, which I don't think is very long especially if they eat hot lunch. But they seem to make it work. Our HS are so large they have to have two lunches to accommodate everyone but even they don't have enough tables. Actually we don't even have a "cafeteria " to eat in. They eat in the main area of the school. It's weird, I think.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Apr 19, 2016 5:04:24 GMT
Back in the olden days we could leave and go anywhere as long as we were back by 5th period. There were some great sandwich places within a few blocks of my high school in NOLA that served awesome po-boys. And the boys could buy cigarettes for 10 cents a piece.  |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Apr 19, 2016 6:25:08 GMT
I thought liability issues closed most campuses. Guess not.
I went to school where Jrs and Srs could leave. Jrs only on certain days... Srs could arrange study hall before or after lunch so you could be gone for an hour. Which was long enough to drive to Kansas and buy Beer!!! (we didn't do it often but on the rare occasion)
The crap we pulled in High School!
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 19, 2016 7:20:49 GMT
I wondered the same thing on the other thread!!
At our schools it is absolutely forbidden to leave the school grounds during school hours.
Also, kids can't get their licence here until they are 18, so most kids would not be able to drive somewhere anyway.
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Post by Merge on Apr 19, 2016 10:08:04 GMT
Closed campus, but they do have an hour. There are also tutorials, club meetings and special performances during lunch, so it's not just an hour of sitting around and eating for everyone.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 19, 2016 10:18:15 GMT
No. And lunch is 27 minutes-my ds has to catch a bus to an offsite location for his class after lunch, so realistically, he gets about 18 minutes.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 19, 2016 10:18:21 GMT
Honestly, even though I have a senior, I can't remember the rules.  It seems to me that it is just seniors and even then only the ones with parental permission. My older son wasn't one that we would have given permission to leave and my younger son has enough credits to graduate that he has all his classes in the morning and is done by 1:00. I want to say that they stuck an early lunch in there so he can eat or not, but they only have 25 minutes. |
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 19, 2016 10:22:51 GMT
Seniors are allowed to leave at my ds's and dd's high school. When my ds was a junior he used to go out often also...he'd leave in a pack of seniors and no one checked. My dd, the rule follower, only went off when she was a senior. They mostly went to a smoothie place or places like Chipoltle, etc. Their school was really overcrowded so they were mostly trying to escape the crazy cafeteria. I remember once when she was maybe a freshman or sophomore she told me that she and some friends got in trouble for sitting outside near the track to eat lunch. They had to be in the cafeteria, in some other classroom, or off campus. sheesh... I actually called about that one and said the cafeteria atmosphere was so horrible -- kids were sitting on the floor to eat! -- that the school needed to figure something else out or let the kids eat outside on nice days. This was in the fall and by the spring the kids were allowed to be outside. I like to think I was responsible for that.  |
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Post by Patter on Apr 19, 2016 10:23:13 GMT
My girls were homeschooled in high school but I have always wondered about this. Every day we see kids out around town at lunchtime. Must be an open campus. Not sure. Hmmm?
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Post by FLA SummerBaby on Apr 19, 2016 10:37:55 GMT
My DD graduated 2 years ago but they had a closed campus and only 30 minutes for lunch and I prefer it that way. Though it was a challenge for her and her friends knowing "where" to eat on campus-- the cafeteria is not big enough to handle all the kids during each lunch shift so many of them spill over into classrooms of their favorite teachers who also happen to have the same "open classroom" lunch shift.
When I started HS in a bigger city, we had a closed campus -- we were totally locked down, you couldn't even go to your car during the day without being questioned by some administrator or adult who would see you in the parking lot. Then I moved jr. year to the same HS where my DD ended up going. They used to have open campus (and only 30 minutes) when I attended. All students were allowed to leave. I didn't have a car so I always had to make plans with friends to know who I was going to lunch with each day. (This was all before cell phones and texting) so it was a big part of each morning to figure out the who/where, etc. for lunch each day. In hindsight I think it wasn't a good thing-- too many new young drivers bolting out of campus to "beat the rush" of all the other students. It is amazing there were not a lot more accidents than there were. I also vividly remember being at lunch with a friend one day and when we were headed back to campus, her car ran out of gas. I freaked out!! I am a planner (she was a free spirit) and I didn't like that we had to figure out where to get gas and still try to get back without getting in trouble for being late. Ahhhh high school memories....
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Post by hop2 on Apr 19, 2016 10:43:43 GMT
Mine will be able to next year. But any spending will be on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 10:53:44 GMT
The high school my kids attend is the same one I graduated from. Over the years, their rules about open lunch changed.
My freshman year- all open.
Sophomore year - no freshmen
Junior year - closed
Senior year - only juniors and seniors. IDs were checked and color coded
Then they changed it some more. Right now it's seniors only. Juniors can go with permission. They can't make up their minds.
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Post by mallie on Apr 19, 2016 11:16:47 GMT
They changed it to closed several years ago after too many incidences of kids cutting school by not returning from lunch, kids getting drunk or stoned during lunch or having physical fights. Note that we live in a "nice" Midwestern suburb.
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 19, 2016 11:24:59 GMT
I asked my school age cousins and a couple parents, there is still no such thing as closed campuses for students. All students at the school can leave at lunch or any other time. I'd never heard of the crazy restrictions for high schoolers, who are old enough to police themselves and shouldn't be coddled like this, until the peas. How can they learn to manage themselves if they aren't given the opportunity?
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 19, 2016 12:27:14 GMT
Not only can high school students leave campus during lunch, but middle school students as well.
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Post by raindancer on Apr 19, 2016 12:34:35 GMT
I asked my school age cousins and a couple parents, there is still no such thing as closed campuses for students. All students at the school can leave at lunch or any other time. I'd never heard of the crazy restrictions for high schoolers, who are old enough to police themselves and shouldn't be coddled like this, until the peas. How can they learn to manage themselves if they aren't given the opportunity? I agree with you, but then in the US they have college professors who take roll call and you can only miss so many days before your day takes a hit. Regardless of how you do in the class. They can't/won't even let college kids act like adults. They treat them like elementary kids and then act surprised when 25 year olds can't get their shit together, act like an adult and function in society. |
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Post by raindancer on Apr 19, 2016 12:35:59 GMT
Not only can high school students leave campus during lunch, but middle school students as well. My kids have never attended school where there was any place to go, but this is how my schools were growing up. In middle you had to have parents permission, but not high school. Half the kids walked home for lunch in our small town. |
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Post by buddysmom on Apr 19, 2016 12:46:42 GMT
Back in the early 70s we had open campus for HS. We could leave for lunch and for study hall. My kids could not leave for lunch and they did not have study hall. (do they still have study hall anywhere anymore?)
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 19, 2016 12:47:43 GMT
I asked my school age cousins and a couple parents, there is still no such thing as closed campuses for students. All students at the school can leave at lunch or any other time. I'd never heard of the crazy restrictions for high schoolers, who are old enough to police themselves and shouldn't be coddled like this, until the peas. How can they learn to manage themselves if they aren't given the opportunity? I agree with you, but then in the US they have college professors who take roll call and you can only miss so many days before your day takes a hit. Regardless of how you do in the class. They can't/won't even let college kids act like adults. They treat them like elementary kids and then act surprised when 25 year olds can't get their shit together, act like an adult and function in society. That's pathetic and so so SO wrong. Why is this happening? The college professors I know are completely hands off when it comes to students... there is no roll call or anything for them. The students are 100% responsible for their education. Can't handle doing the work and getting to class, that's the student's problem not the instructors. My friends have a lot of fun shutting down idiotic helicopter parents. They will NOT tolerate mommy trying to interfere. So why are parents so scared of letting their kids adult and learn to function in society? What's the problem? What's the danger? Why are they crippling their kids and making them useless? I work with interns and co-op students and you can absolutely tell who still has the strings attached and who doesn't... because the ones that have a helicopter mommy orchestrating everything are useless and can't function. The ones who were actually made to be their own person for the most part have their shit together and will make something of themselves. Honestly, I'm a firm believer that after grade 9, mommy and daddy (but mostly mommy) needs to back off and the kid has to advocate. Otherwise, how will they ever learn? |
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Post by anniebeth24 on Apr 19, 2016 12:52:47 GMT
Ours is a closed campus, but there's no fast food or easy carryout in our town.
Kids only have 25 minutes anyway. Getting out of the student parking lot after school takes forever, so I don't see how kids could leave/return efficiently in that short window of time even if there were restaurant options.
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Post by psiluvu on Apr 19, 2016 13:04:24 GMT
At my dd's high school they can pretty much leave whenever they want, for lunch, spares whatever.
At ds's school, a 7 and 8 Jr high, parental permission has to be on file.
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Post by leannec on Apr 19, 2016 13:13:25 GMT
Dd#1's high school is literally 5 minutes from a bunch of fast food and coffee places ... the kids are over there all the time ... As long as they show up for class no one has a problem with it |
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Post by Shel on Apr 19, 2016 13:23:32 GMT
Open campus here and 47 minutes for lunch. We don't love fast food so sometimes I'll go to a local cafe and order lunch so it's ready when DD gets there and we can eat together before she heads back. If she isn't back early enough to to park she's late for her next class because it's a madhouse the last 5 minutes of lunch.
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