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Post by CarolT on Apr 20, 2016 0:51:59 GMT
Yes, in Florida "classes" are determined based on school enrollment numbers. Next year, families will be able to send their kids to any school in the state that has "room"... It will be very interesting to see how that impacts athletics. High school football is virtually a religion in this state!
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Post by littlemama on Apr 20, 2016 0:58:26 GMT
Yes, we play some private schools, including one large Catholic school who blatantly recruits for sports- nice morals, eh? We regularly beat them, so guess the recruiting isn't going as well as they might like.
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mochi
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Post by mochi on Apr 20, 2016 1:27:30 GMT
Public schools far outshine private schools in almost every way. Definitely academically. The reason why people put their kids in private school isn't for the rigor or the athletics but to isolate their children from the public school riff-raff. Seriously? I think your assumption is completely ridiculous. There are plenty of reasons parents choose private schools that have nothing to do with isolating them from public school kids.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 20, 2016 1:39:04 GMT
Is that the school that was featured in the movie about the winning streak for the football team? Yep. I dated a guy from De La Salle a million years ago - it was weird when the movie came out - sorry for the bizarrely self absorbed segue...
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Post by MorningPerson on Apr 20, 2016 1:45:21 GMT
This is definitely an issue in many parts of Pennsylvania.
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Post by MissBianca on Apr 20, 2016 1:57:08 GMT
Yes and no. In cross country we do at the big regional meets but they don't count in our ECC conference standings because they aren't in our region. These races are CT, MA, RI, etc we even have a team come every other year from Ireland to race. One of the top schools we race against in Division 1 is private but I've never heard of them stacking the deck. I'm sure some of their parents can afford to send their kids to off season camps, which can definitely help. My kids have been given the opportunity to go to a particular camp, but I can't afford to send both of them,
We don't have any private schools in our division for ECC conferences, so we just compete against other Division 1 public schools in our region.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Apr 20, 2016 1:57:25 GMT
I dated a guy from De La Salle a million years ago - it was weird when the movie came out - sorry for the bizarrely self absorbed segue... No worries! On my Facebook high school private group you wouldn't believe how we hijack posts!
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Post by teddyw on Apr 20, 2016 1:59:44 GMT
Yes, our private and public schools all compete (according to size) against each other in leagues determined by our state athletics/activities association. It's not a big deal. This is the same for us.
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Post by zookeeper on Apr 20, 2016 2:04:40 GMT
Our public school would kick the heck out of the private schools in our area. Our high school is very large and has a depth of talent for many sports.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Apr 20, 2016 2:10:24 GMT
Yes, our schools do. But the parochial schools are not at an advantage here. The private Catholic schools (for which one is my alma mater!) had such a low enrollment rate that three of the schools had to band together to form a football team. They call it the Holy Trinity
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 20, 2016 2:10:57 GMT
We're still at the middle school level here, but based on the friend chatter - our public high schools do compete with private schools. There are quite a few private "specialty" schools - Waldorf, Language Immersion, etc where it's really a non-issue. There is one major Jesuit school that is definitely a factor in several sports that compete against the biggest public schools in the state. I get the sense that it makes things competitive - they don't dominate - there are 3 major public schools and this one private that are all in the mix in any given year and sport, but we're not in high school yet - so perhaps my opinion will change when I'm closer to the info - but probably not as we're not really a sporty family.
I'm not really sure why a religious school recruiting would be a moral issue?
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Post by J u l e e on Apr 20, 2016 2:19:46 GMT
No, in fact my daughter's high school (private all girls) only plays against other private all girls schools - not even against girls from private co-ed schools. How many private all girls schools do you have? Here it is mixed. Some private schools have excellent facilities.. but many are like the charter schools, scrambling to find gyms to borrow. There are six. All quite competitive in athletics.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 20, 2016 3:26:13 GMT
Yes they do and quite often we get our butts kicked. That said, we have a smaller pool of athletes to pull from.
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Post by finaledition on Apr 20, 2016 4:20:29 GMT
Yes- we play against a team that recently had a movie made about their football program. They had a 151 game winning streak. On the promo for the movie they would always show a scene with the coach saying "it's not about winning." Yeah, right. Unfortunately it's like that for all their sports. Definitely not a level playing field.
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Post by 5peanutsnana on Apr 20, 2016 4:27:01 GMT
The Private HS that both DH and I attended, as well as our kids, played mostly Public Schools. They were the only Catholic School in the Conference they are in. There are less than 50 students in each grade, and the other schools probably have 100-200 students per grade. It is certainly not a situation where the Private School has the advantage in size, although I realize this can often be the case.
It would nearly be impossible to play only Private Schools without having to travel great distances. Some areas in our state have open enrollment and our area is one of them. In some ways it is much like "recruiting" for the Private Schools. Kids can go to whichever school has the best team in their preferred sport(s).
My DD's family lives in the suburbs of a larger city in the same state I live in, and they can only attend school in the district where they reside.
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Post by flute4peace on Apr 20, 2016 14:51:25 GMT
I find it extremely frustrating to go to meets or games when my DD (public) school is playing or competing against other athletes from private schools. They always win, medal, etc and it becomes for some very frustrating. Even more so when kids that showed promise are recruited and end up playing against us the following year. Private schools recruit the best hs athletes so I feel it's an unfair advantage so why are public and private schools being played against one another? It doesn't seem at all fair and yeah as a mom I grumble. I was wondering if it was the same for other states or not. It is in our league. Out of 6 schools, 4 are from small, rural communities, and 2 are private schools from the city. Of those 2 private schools, and 1 of those schools definitely recruits/scholarships athletes. I agree it is very frustrating.
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Post by Really Red on Apr 20, 2016 17:23:14 GMT
Here, though, there isn't a lot of recruitment going on. Public schools far outshine private schools in almost every way. Definitely academically. The reason why people put their kids in private school isn't for the rigor or the athletics but to isolate their children from the public school riff-raff. Typically parents move their kids from private to public for the high school years. So there isn't any drawing students away from public to play on private teams. Wow. Seriously? As for our area, our public schools are excellent athletically. We have some teams that are the best in our state. The largest private school, however, sued the HS league to join. They won because the HS league has no money to fight and this large school has a TON of money to fight. The funny thing is that this private school played my son's school a lot and lost every game, every time. I'm not sure how playing the much better public schools is going to make a difference, unless it is a draw to pull in more students. In general, with the exception of a few sports, the public schools around here are much better. My son's school only scrimmages against the public school in some sports. They're not part of the same league.
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Post by AnotherPea on Apr 20, 2016 22:08:30 GMT
Here, though, there isn't a lot of recruitment going on. Public schools far outshine private schools in almost every way. Definitely academically. The reason why people put their kids in private school isn't for the rigor or the athletics but to isolate their children from the public school riff-raff. Typically parents move their kids from private to public for the high school years. So there isn't any drawing students away from public to play on private teams. Wow. Seriously? As for our area, our public schools are excellent athletically. We have some teams that are the best in our state. The largest private school, however, sued the HS league to join. They won because the HS league has no money to fight and this large school has a TON of money to fight. The funny thing is that this private school played my son's school a lot and lost every game, every time. I'm not sure how playing the much better public schools is going to make a difference, unless it is a draw to pull in more students. In general, with the exception of a few sports, the public schools around here are much better. My son's school only scrimmages against the public school in some sports. They're not part of the same league. Yes, that is the attitude. We have really good public schools but they do have common, regular ole folk in them. We have two decent-sized private high schools. We have several tiny ones. One of the bigger schools is extremely expensive. Last I heard, about ten years ago, it was over 20K/year. Many (most?) of those kids transition to public high school. I meet quite a few parents at curriculum nights and while they're on school tours and I'm always asked about "the type" of students their kids would be around if they choose to come to our school. One woman actually asked me if I would notify her if her daughter started acting interested in a boy that may not come from the same type of family as she did. There wasn't a particular boy she was interested in, she just wanted make sure that her kid only dated someone of means. @@ The other big school is a Christian school housed at a mega church. They aren't allowed to learn about evolution or even have coed PE. But I can understand their feelings even if I don't agree with their attitudes. I purposefully chose for my children to go to diverse schools. But I admit that when I hear about violent incidents or my child's learning is compromised because of the number of disruptive or lower-level learners in her class, I second-guess myself. I sometimes wonder if the life lessons she is learning are more important than the instruction she is missing or the danger she faces. Three kids, from three different incidents, left her school in handcuffs today.
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Post by AnotherPea on Apr 20, 2016 22:16:55 GMT
Public schools far outshine private schools in almost every way. Definitely academically. The reason why people put their kids in private school isn't for the rigor or the athletics but to isolate their children from the public school riff-raff. Seriously? I think your assumption is completely ridiculous. There are plenty of reasons parents choose private schools that have nothing to do with isolating them from public school kids. I'm sure there are. I was speaking specifically of my area. We do not have many private schools here. I know parents whose kids go to all of the high school ones. Every time something happens at a public school I hear "that's why my kids go to private school!"
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Post by kelly8875 on Apr 20, 2016 22:30:53 GMT
Our public schools do play against local Catholic schools. The Catholic schools are usually better at least in one sport, so they'll almost always win State in certain sports. It is what it is.
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Post by lisa on Apr 20, 2016 23:50:33 GMT
No not in my area.
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