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Post by katlady on Apr 20, 2016 22:27:58 GMT
I see reference here often to wait staff getting paid less than minimum wage. In California, wait staff is paid at least minimum wage plus any tips they earn. Just curious how many other states pay their wait staff at least minimum wage. Is California an anomaly?
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Post by Crazyhare on Apr 20, 2016 22:30:37 GMT
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Post by Linda on Apr 20, 2016 22:31:12 GMT
Florida
Minimum cash pay = $5.03/hr but they have to make at least $8.05/hr combined cash pay and tips
Minimum wage here is $8.05/hr
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 22:35:08 GMT
There is no tip credit in Oregon. Minimum wage is minimum wage, regardless of whether an individual receives tips.
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Post by katlady on Apr 20, 2016 22:36:30 GMT
Thanks for the link Crazyhare! So, it seems like only a handful of states just out right pay the state minimum wage. Most states, pay less, but make up the difference with the "tip credit". |
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Apr 20, 2016 23:07:29 GMT
When I worked as a server here in Texas years ago, pay was $2.13 an hour, the minimum outlined by the DOL. It is still that way in Texas. I can tell you that on average I made much more than the federal minimum wage, but you have to work hard for tips (everyone does) and some days it was disheartening to go home with little pay. Especially after we tipped out the bussers and bartenders.
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Post by katlady on Apr 20, 2016 23:25:27 GMT
When I worked as a server here in Texas years ago, pay was $2.13 an hour, the minimum outlined by the DOL. It is still that way in Texas. I can tell you that on average I made much more than the federal minimum wage, but you have to work hard for tips (everyone does) and some days it was disheartening to go home with little pay. Especially after we tipped out the bussers and bartenders. How does that "tip credit" thing work? It sounds like from the table, that the difference has to be made up with this "tip credit". So how do you still go home with little pay? That is not something the employer needs to make up if you don't get enough tips? |
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Post by paget on Apr 20, 2016 23:28:59 GMT
Washington servers get at least minimum wage plus tips.
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Post by Leone on Apr 20, 2016 23:34:45 GMT
Arizona is half of minimum wage plus the tips.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Apr 20, 2016 23:38:49 GMT
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Apr 21, 2016 0:09:42 GMT
When I worked as a server here in Texas years ago, pay was $2.13 an hour, the minimum outlined by the DOL. It is still that way in Texas. I can tell you that on average I made much more than the federal minimum wage, but you have to work hard for tips (everyone does) and some days it was disheartening to go home with little pay. Especially after we tipped out the bussers and bartenders. How does that "tip credit" thing work? It sounds like from the table, that the difference has to be made up with this "tip credit". So how do you still go home with little pay? That is not something the employer needs to make up if you don't get enough tips? Essentially, the employer has to prove via records that over a period of time (not sure what the exact period is) a server makes at least minimum wage when you combine the hourly pay plus tips (which servers have to report at the end of each shift). But an average does not work out to be more than minimum wage every shift. Some days it was less than minimum wage and some days a lot more. As a server in Texas, since most of your wages come in the form of cash, you have to be very good at budgeting and socking $ away. Otherwise, folks are begging for shifts [and willing to work double shifts] in the days leading up to rent being due. Not that it I ever did that.  |
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Post by ellen on Apr 21, 2016 0:13:01 GMT
My daughter waits tables in MN. She gets minimum wage plus tips where she works.
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Post by TankTop on Apr 21, 2016 0:14:23 GMT
Dd makes $8.50 an hour. That is $1.25 above min wage here. Her tips are on top of that.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Apr 21, 2016 0:25:22 GMT
2.13 per hour in SC at minumum, some places do pay more but it's not common. Bartenders tend to make at least $3 per hour or more.
theres a movement for restaurants to start paying tips on biweekly checks, particularly larger or corporate run companies. It helps for companies that offer insurance, they can take out the premiums from the check plus ensure all taxes are taken out. For the servers, it's a big change from having cash in pocket but it helps prevent them from owing thousands at tax time.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 21, 2016 0:30:14 GMT
Minimum wage (which is what I assume wait staff here earn) is $17.29 per hour. We don't really tip here so the minimum wage is higher.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 21, 2016 0:40:52 GMT
It's really a shame that the restaurant industry is the only one in the country that allows workers to be paid less than minimum wage.
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Post by psiluvu on Apr 21, 2016 1:44:35 GMT
Minimum wage in Ontario is 11.25 going up to 11.40 in October.
Student minimum wage is 10.55 going to 10.70 in October
Wait staff is 9.80 going to 9.90
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Post by ntsf on Apr 21, 2016 1:47:34 GMT
my son is a waiter and makes minimum wage --$12.50 an hour plus benefits, plus tips..$40-150 a day.
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Post by grammanisi on Apr 21, 2016 2:24:31 GMT
My granddaughter is a server. She makes $2.39 an hour plus tips. She has to tip out the bartenders and bussers, too, even though they make more than minimum wage.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 21, 2016 2:31:07 GMT
Colorado $4.98. That is just crap.
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Post by raindancer on Apr 21, 2016 2:36:13 GMT
Dd makes $8.50 an hour. That is $1.25 above min wage here. Her tips are on top of that. See this kind of thing is what bugs me. If she is getting paid a fair wage then why should we tio. Meanwhile in other states they are barely able to survive and really need the tips. We need to end this tipping garbage and pay for people to do their jobs fairly. |
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Post by katlady on Apr 21, 2016 2:39:54 GMT
Dd makes $8.50 an hour. That is $1.25 above min wage here. Her tips are on top of that. See this kind of thing is what bugs me. If she is getting paid a fair wage then why should we tio. Meanwhile in other states they are barely able to survive and really need the tips. We need to end this tipping garbage and pay for people to do their jobs fairly. Yet I know people in California ($10 minimum wage) who still complain they don't make enough being a waiter/waitress unless they get tips! But I agree, tipping is why out of hand! |
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Post by quiltz on Apr 21, 2016 2:41:54 GMT
2.13 per hour in SC at minumum, some places do pay more but it's not common. Bartenders tend to make at least $3 per hour or more. theres a movement for restaurants to start paying tips on biweekly checks, particularly larger or corporate run companies. It helps for companies that offer insurance, they can take out the premiums from the check plus ensure all taxes are taken out. For the servers, it's a big change from having cash in pocket but it helps prevent them from owing thousands at tax time. How is a person supposed to earn enough money to feed, clothe & keep a roof over the heads at $2.13/hr. Don't the people who own restaurants & bars have huge guilt issues about having practically slave labour? I have never really understood the whole tipping thing in the USA, but this brings more light to this area. The owners must be making a lot of money off the backs of their staff. As a customer at your business, I should not be responsible to support your staff. |
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Post by ntsf on Apr 21, 2016 3:14:13 GMT
we go to one place that has on the top of the menu --we do not have tipping...so the workers are paid a decent wage, stay a long long time and the entrees are $25-35. very very good french bistro food. it works out to be about the same as tipping at a similar place..
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Post by goldenblind221 on Apr 21, 2016 7:53:34 GMT
Texas is 2.13 an hour as previously mentioned. With tip outs that are based on the total amount of your sales and NOT your tips, if you get stiffed on a table, you've essentially paid THE PATRON to be their server.
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Post by anniefb on Apr 21, 2016 9:12:24 GMT
Minimum wage (which is what I assume wait staff here earn) is $17.29 per hour. We don't really tip here so the minimum wage is higher. Similar situation in New Zealand, except our minimum wage is $15.25 per hour. I just saw a report about hourly wages in the hospitality industry which shows wait staff generally get the minimum wage and baristas get slightly more. |
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Post by TankTop on Apr 21, 2016 10:24:46 GMT
Dd makes $8.50 an hour. That is $1.25 above min wage here. Her tips are on top of that. See this kind of thing is what bugs me. If she is getting paid a fair wage then why should we tio. Meanwhile in other states they are barely able to survive and really need the tips. We need to end this tipping garbage and pay for people to do their jobs fairly. I totally agree. Her place of employment is a cafeteria style resteraunt. She doesn't take orders or serve. She refills drinks and clears trays after you sit. She also busses the tables. Seems crazy to tip for that, but she is going to turn it down. Lol! |
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Post by raindancer on Apr 21, 2016 10:35:46 GMT
See this kind of thing is what bugs me. If she is getting paid a fair wage then why should we tio. Meanwhile in other states they are barely able to survive and really need the tips. We need to end this tipping garbage and pay for people to do their jobs fairly. I totally agree. Her place of employment is a cafeteria style resteraunt. She doesn't take orders or serve. She refills drinks and clears trays after you sit. She also busses the tables. Seems crazy to tip for that, but she is going to turn it down. Lol! Oh for sure! I wouldn't turn it down either! I certainly don't blame her for this. I just hate knowing what to tip, and now apparently it depends on the state. If they make more than min wage at Olive Garden in California and still get a 20% tip from me I feel like that is crap. I tip 20% always because I want to support people who get paid so little, like those who work at Olive Garden in Arizona. This just makes me angry. Particularly because I don't tip based on service just a flat amount. I figure they maybe had a bad day or got in a fight with their spouse or their cat died. And I give the benefit of the doubt. So now I guess I need to decide how much to tip based on what state I'm in. |
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Post by scrappysurfer on Apr 21, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
2.13 per hour in SC at minumum, some places do pay more but it's not common. Bartenders tend to make at least $3 per hour or more. theres a movement for restaurants to start paying tips on biweekly checks, particularly larger or corporate run companies. It helps for companies that offer insurance, they can take out the premiums from the check plus ensure all taxes are taken out. For the servers, it's a big change from having cash in pocket but it helps prevent them from owing thousands at tax time. How is a person supposed to earn enough money to feed, clothe & keep a roof over the heads at $2.13/hr. Don't the people who own restaurants & bars have huge guilt issues about having practically slave labour? I have never really understood the whole tipping thing in the USA, but this brings more light to this area. The owners must be making a lot of money off the backs of their staff. As a customer at your business, I should not be responsible to support your staff. You may not understand the "whole tipping thing", but here we don't understand why you wouldn't want to tip someone who waits on you hand and foot so you can enjoy a meal without having to cook it, prepare it, you don't have to get up from your chair to get anything, if you don't like it you get another prepared at no cost, you have your drinks filed and refilled, you don't clear the table or do dishes. It's the whole point of going out to eat. My DH compares it to a hair stylist who rents booth space in a salon. The salon owner pays the rent, utilities and gets a rental fee from the stylist and/or a percentage of the cost of the service. The stylist gets a larger percentage of the cost of the service plus the tip. A restaurant owner pays the lease, the utilities, the kitchen staff and the cost of food/drink and gets paid by the cost of the menu. The waiters get tables to wait on and keep their tips minus tipouts to the bar and bussers. In both cases, everyone is happy. Servers don't pay their bills with their hourly wage, they pay them with their tips. Millions of people do it. My income as a bartender was almost as good as my income as a nurse, and at some establishments it could be better. DH works with people who make six figures waiting tables 4 nights a week. They're educated, just make more money in the restaurant than in a so-called "real job" without all the stress. Sorry, but attitudes like yours are why servers hate to wait on non Americans. We go to your country and understand that tipping is not the norm, so we don't tip. You (general you) come here and understand that tipping *is* the norm but don't do it on priciple, that's bullshit. Servers pay other people to help them with their service so when they are not tipped they literally lose money. |
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Post by blondiec47 on Apr 21, 2016 14:33:20 GMT
Dd makes $8.50 an hour. That is $1.25 above min wage here. Her tips are on top of that. See this kind of thing is what bugs me. If she is getting paid a fair wage then why should we tio. Meanwhile in other states they are barely able to survive and really need the tips. We need to end this tipping garbage and pay for people to do their jobs fairly. I so agree. In MA it think it is $2.something. I would like to see this standardized. Once on vacation in Puerto Rico I did not realize that the tip was included in the bill (if I had read it I would have known) and ended up tipping the waiter like 90%. No wonder we got such awesome service when we went back. |
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