loco coco
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Post by loco coco on Apr 21, 2016 14:37:33 GMT
In TX I was making $2 something, however I did really well in tips
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Post by blondiec47 on Apr 21, 2016 16:03:56 GMT
The issue I have with this is that restaurants are always telling us that if they paid their servers at least minimum wage then the price of the meals will go up. But in states that pay servers minimum or above are the meals more?? If they are then I would be less likely to tip well as the business would be bearing the labor cost of doing business. I would rather see restaurants and bars pay their servers (it is their cost, not mine) then if I get really great service I can then tip, but if I just get a server take my order and bring my food then no tip (that is what they are paid to do). Tipping has gotten out of hand, but I cannot blame someone that gets next to nothing. If they were all paid minimum then maybe tipping can get back to what it was supposed to be used for--for rewarding someone that gave above and beyond, not for just doing their job.
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quiltz
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Jun 29, 2014 16:13:28 GMT
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Post by quiltz on Apr 21, 2016 16:10:21 GMT
The issue I have with this is that restaurants are always telling us that if they paid their servers at least minimum wage then the price of the meals will go up. But in states that pay servers minimum or above are the meals more?? If they are then I would be less likely to tip well as the business would be bearing the labor cost of doing business. I would rather see restaurants and bars pay their servers (it is their cost, not mine) then if I get really great service I can then tip, but if I just get a server take my order and bring my food then no tip (that is what they are paid to do). Tipping has gotten out of hand, but I cannot blame someone that gets next to nothing. If they were all paid minimum then maybe tipping can get back to what it was supposed to be used for--for rewarding someone that gave above and beyond, not for just doing their job. I believe that that paying the staff is part of the cost of business of the restaurant. The same way that it works at other retail outlets, including the food service industry. Tips are for appreciation of a superior service and not paying the staff their living wages. scrappysurfer Edited to add: Hairsytlists can advertise for their own "station", as they are sometimes considered as a sub-contractor to the person owning the salon. It takes education & a license to operate as a hair stylist. A server in a restaurant, in most instances does not require any further education. How can/should a server advertise their superior service at the restaurant where work? They don't, as advertisement is "the cost of doing business" for the owner. In response, the owner should pay their servers better as they are the main 'driver' in bringing in good reviews and repeat business. A bartender usually requies training and here, they must hsve their 'Smart Serve' certification and are compensated for their responsibility in serving a regulated product (alcohol) and could be held liable in the event of a legal situation.
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Sept 30, 2024 2:30:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 16:34:37 GMT
But in states that pay servers minimum or above are the meals more?? The minimum wage in our county is fairly high and it has gotten extremely expensive to eat out. We will actually order from/eat at restaurants in the next county over because it's cheaper.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Apr 21, 2016 17:29:39 GMT
I would much, much rather restaurants pay servers a reasonable wage, and we could just get rid of all this tipping stuff all together. I would gladly pay more for food to cover this.
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craftykitten
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Post by craftykitten on Apr 21, 2016 23:45:40 GMT
How is a person supposed to earn enough money to feed, clothe & keep a roof over the heads at $2.13/hr. Don't the people who own restaurants & bars have huge guilt issues about having practically slave labour? I have never really understood the whole tipping thing in the USA, but this brings more light to this area. The owners must be making a lot of money off the backs of their staff. As a customer at your business, I should not be responsible to support your staff. You may not understand the "whole tipping thing", but here we don't understand why you wouldn't want to tip someone who waits on you hand and foot so you can enjoy a meal without having to cook it, prepare it, you don't have to get up from your chair to get anything, if you don't like it you get another prepared at no cost, you have your drinks filed and refilled, you don't clear the table or do dishes. It's the whole point of going out to eat. My DH compares it to a hair stylist who rents booth space in a salon. The salon owner pays the rent, utilities and gets a rental fee from the stylist and/or a percentage of the cost of the service. The stylist gets a larger percentage of the cost of the service plus the tip. A restaurant owner pays the lease, the utilities, the kitchen staff and the cost of food/drink and gets paid by the cost of the menu. The waiters get tables to wait on and keep their tips minus tipouts to the bar and bussers. In both cases, everyone is happy. Servers don't pay their bills with their hourly wage, they pay them with their tips. Millions of people do it. My income as a bartender was almost as good as my income as a nurse, and at some establishments it could be better. DH works with people who make six figures waiting tables 4 nights a week. They're educated, just make more money in the restaurant than in a so-called "real job" without all the stress. Sorry, but attitudes like yours are why servers hate to wait on non Americans. We go to your country and understand that tipping is not the norm, so we don't tip. You (general you) come here and understand that tipping *is* the norm but don't do it on priciple, that's bullshit. Servers pay other people to help them with their service so when they are not tipped they literally lose money. Not the op of this post, but tipping is really hard to get your head round if you're not used to it, and it sounds like a lot of people who are used to it are all doing it differently anyway. Do I tip a flat amount or is it based on how good I think the service is? Do I tip differently depending on which state I am in and therefore how much minimum wage a server gets? Do I tip in cash even if I pay by card? How do you tip a bartender? Who gets tipped? I've seen threads here about wait staff, hairdressers, cleaners...it seems endless. And I have only been to the USA once, but it didn't seem like incredibly low wages ($3 an hour?!) were reflected in the cost of eating out. It's easy not to tip. It's much harder to do it if you're not used to it.
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