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Post by lucyg on Jul 31, 2014 6:52:36 GMT
I agree that she should have made it clear from the beginning that she expected payment for them. But asking full price is not tacky. We self football tickets here all the time and people are glad to get them at face value.... I would say it would be tacky if she ask more than face value. That's what you do when you have highly sought-after tickets and you're doing someone a favor to sell them. For tickets they can walk up to the box office and buy, there's no advantage to paying a private party full price. When you're trying to unload badminton tickets on the day of the event, you don't try to con your neighbor into paying full price for them.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 31, 2014 7:06:50 GMT
Well that's a bit cheeky!
She should have made it clear up front that she expected payment rather than waiting until after you accepted.
Friday week ago I got a phone call from a friend to say she had 2 spare tickets to see Wayne Brady (from Whose Line Is It Anyway) for the following night, and did we want to go. We accepted, and when I asked her how much did the tickets cost, she said that they would not accept any payment for them (I think they were over $100 each). Her parents had pulled out at the last minute and if we couldn't go then they were going to go to waste.
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Post by disneypal on Jul 31, 2014 7:14:12 GMT
Personally, I would not expect someone to pay me for something like that. The way I look at it. I already paid for the tickets, the money is already gone rather I use the tickets or not. If I can't use the tickets, I would give them to someone for free, I would rather they not go to waste.
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Post by pmk on Jul 31, 2014 8:07:42 GMT
A. She should have asked up front if you were interested in buying the tickets.
B. Whether she is wealthy or not has no bearing on the value of the tickets if she wants to sell them. I agree with this - it should have been made clear that she wanted payment for them and I don't think wealth comes into it. The badminton sessions have been incredibly popular at the Games (we were there on Wednesday morning and it was exceptionally busy but apparently manic for the evening session) so if she wanted to ensure she didn't lose out she should have chosen one of the official ways to sell on your tickets. She didn't need to lose out on the money at all.
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Post by heartcat on Jul 31, 2014 9:32:03 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't have assumed that they were a gift. Based on her wording, as stated in the OP, I would not have thought she was just giving them to me for free.
It sounds as though she made it pretty clear up front that she was selling them. Maybe not her first words, but it's not as though she said, 'I have some tickets I can't use, send your ds over if you'd like them,' and then blind sided him by asking for payment once he got there.
When ds went over, you already knew at that point that she was looking to sell them. You might have been hoping for a bargain, but it's not as though you were 'tricked' in any way.
I'm just not getting what the neighbour did wrong. I can understand that you might have initially thought she was just going to give them to you. But it sounds as though she cleared that up quickly. At that point, I would just have said, 'Actually, thank you but no.'
I am not understanding the idea of stammering and being speechless and sending your ds over as though you had no choice and were being manipulated in some way. Yes, it would have been nice if she had offered them free of charge. But I certainly would not have expected that. But early in the initial call, before you'd even said you'd take them, and had only expressed an interest, she had told you she was looking to sell them.
Never was there a mention of this being a 'gift' and from what I am reading she didn't do anything, beyond the first seconds of the conversation, to get your hopes up that it was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 9:44:54 GMT
Sneeky! she's left a very important bit out of her first conversation with you........are you interested in buying them off me. You don't say "are you interested in them ?" if you don't intend to give them to anyone for free IMO.
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Post by heartcat on Jul 31, 2014 10:03:41 GMT
Dottyscrapper, the neighbour didn't leave that out of the first conversation. They weren't her first words, but she did make it clear up front that they were not intended as a gift.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 31, 2014 10:44:56 GMT
As others have said, if I have tickets I can't use, I give them away.
However, the OP knew that she was selling the tickets and should have refused up front. Sending the son over to pick up the tickets and the rest of it was unnecessary .
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Post by Elisabeth on Jul 31, 2014 10:53:50 GMT
i think you handled the situation perfectly. so weird she would offer them then say you owe her money
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Post by SuPeaNatural on Jul 31, 2014 11:33:28 GMT
You handled it well, it's the neighbour who didn't. She should have said the price straight away instead of reeling you in first. So did she end up flogging them off or was she stuck with them?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 11:35:01 GMT
Dottyscrapper, the neighbour didn't leave that out of the first conversation. They weren't her first words, but she did make it clear up front that they were not intended as a gift. But IMO she shouldn't have said it the ways she did not in in the sequence that she did. She had given Lesley the opportunity to say she was interested in the tickets ( above bold is mine ) and then had to interrupt her to tell her the price. What she should have said was " I have tickets for the badminton at the Commonwealth Games today,they cost me £50 each but as it turns out we aren't going to be able to use them, are you interested in buying them off me? Said that way there would have been no doubt that she wasn't gifting these tickets. How she did say it, until the interruption in the conversation, was rather ambiquous.
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Post by alibama on Jul 31, 2014 14:59:27 GMT
I think you handled it just right.
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Post by theboydbunch on Jul 31, 2014 16:06:06 GMT
I think you handled this well. This was not a gift, but her sneaky way of selling the tickets, I think.
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Post by tuva42 on Jul 31, 2014 16:30:38 GMT
Am I the only one who always offers full price to someone if they offer me tickets to something I'd like to see? I agree the woman probably didn't word her offer correctly, but why should she be expected to give away expensive tickets to an event for free? I think she was tacky in the way she handled it, but if I'd been the OP I'd have asked the price immediately and only accepted the offer if I was willing to pay the full price.
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Jul 31, 2014 16:45:13 GMT
If it were me I would have given the tickets away. It did sound like she was giving them away and I am glad you didn't get stuck with them. It sounds like she was baiting you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 16:51:17 GMT
Wow... there are some pretty judgmental comments being made here. I'm sure the fact that the neighbor's daughter is visiting from Belgium, and English may not be her native language, has absolutely nothing to do with what/how she asked? <insert sarcastic smiley here> There are two sides to every story, and we only have the OP's claim that those were the woman's words to go on.
Lighten up, ladies.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 31, 2014 16:54:04 GMT
I just asked a guy I work with if he's interested in some Patriots pre-season tickets. Because of this thread, I made sure to say they're $27/ticket, that I'm looking to sell them, not give them away.
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Post by sunnyday on Jul 31, 2014 16:55:30 GMT
This reminds me of something different, but somewhat similar:
It was 2005 and the White Sox were on fire. We bought 4 tickets to one of their games and had great seats. We paid $100 a ticket. Good seats were hard to get without that kind of money. But the people supposed to go with us couldn't end up making it. It was down to the wire and we sent out word that we were selling them for $50 each.
Transaction was made through my parents. They complained that the face value was $35 each and acted like we were ripping them off. I couldn't believe it.
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Post by Fidget on Jul 31, 2014 16:58:21 GMT
When being offered tickets for something, my first question is "how much do you want for them", that way there is no possible misunderstanding as to if the tickets are for sale or being offered as a gift.
Personally - if I was trying to sell a couple of tickets I would be up front and say something along the lines of " would you be interested in buying 2 tickets to ......." If I were giving them away I would say - "I have 2 free tickets to.... are you interested?"
Do you think it's possible that it was just a misunderstanding rather than the neighbor trying to be sneaky?
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Post by wezee on Jul 31, 2014 17:04:54 GMT
Rude!
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Post by jesslee on Jul 31, 2014 17:18:43 GMT
I would have done the same thing. Crazy that she didn't say up front she was selling them.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 31, 2014 17:26:40 GMT
The OP states up front, on the initial conversation the neighbor expected to be paid. There was no bait and switch here. The OP then opines about the financial situation of the neighbors in saying they can well afford to give them away - what does that have to do with anything? The tickets were * NEVER* intended to be a gift.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 31, 2014 18:03:03 GMT
Wow... there are some pretty judgmental comments being made here. I'm sure the fact that the neighbor's daughter is visiting from Belgium, and English may not be her native language, has absolutely nothing to do with what/how she asked? <insert sarcastic smiley here> There are two sides to every story, and we only have the OP's claim that those were the woman's words to go on.
Lighten up, ladies. But that's the case in every instance of pea outrage. We only have the OP's story to go on. I think asking first if she wants the tickets, and then after she says yes, quoting the price, is designed to snare a victim. Many people, caught by surprise, might not have the initial reaction of saying Never Mind! The neighbor put her on the spot. If I were offering tickets and wanted money for them, I would make the effort to be very clear up front (meaning before she responds) so as not to put the other person on the spot. That is the issue here, as far as I'm concerned. And yes, the OP could have clarified price (or free) before saying yes, but as you can see by the vast majority of responses here, most people think in terms of just giving unneeded tickets away when the other person wasn't actively seeking them out.
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Post by cannes on Jul 31, 2014 18:09:04 GMT
I think the neighbor should have mentioned the price of the tickets before asking if she wanted them. I think it's slightly deceptive to ask if she wants the tickets then mention the price. That piece of information is probably the most important piece of information in the offer.
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Post by annabella on Jul 31, 2014 18:17:39 GMT
Totally rude, I had the same thing happen to me once, you don't offer tickets then after the person accepts say you owe them money.
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Post by duopenotti on Jul 31, 2014 18:21:50 GMT
Not cool and so rude IMO!
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Post by theboydbunch on Jul 31, 2014 18:24:01 GMT
Sneeky! she's left a very important bit out of her first conversation with you........are you interested in buying them off me. You don't say "are you interested in them ?" if you don't intend to give them to anyone for free IMO. I agree with this.
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Post by meowgal on Jul 31, 2014 18:52:07 GMT
I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding, but agree she SHOULD have said she was selling a couple tickets, was she interested, etc. I doubt she was being intentionally misleading, but began the inquiry in the wrong way. If I had accepted them believing they were free and then was surprised with a price, I'd have simply said that "on second thought, I don't think I'll take them and someone else might enjoy them more. Thank you for thinking of me though."
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Post by lesley on Jul 31, 2014 19:26:50 GMT
I love the Peas! You obviously have to be very clear in a post that you include every single pertinent word and that brevity may lead to ambiguity!
So to clarify, the conversation went like this:
Neighbour's daughter: Hello, Lesley, we were meant to be going to the badminton at the Games this evening, but our plans have changed, and we're not going to be able to manage anymore, because (lengthy explanation of what she and her two kids were doing instead). Anyway, it would be a shame for the tickets to go to waste, so I wondered if you would be interested in them? Me: Hold on and I'll ask DS if he fancies it. (Aside: DS, ND has tickets for the badminton tonight she can't use, do you fancy going?) Yes, that would be great. Thank you for - ND: I paid £50 for two tickets and that's what I'd like for them. I don't have time to go into Glasgow to sell them through the official lines, so thought I'd see if you wanted them. Me: (back-pedalling) Oh! Well, I'm not sure that - ND: Why don't you send DS over and we'll talk about payment later? Me: Um, okay, but - Neighbour: (shouts to her DD). Go and get the tickets out, Lesley's taking them. Ok, speak to you later. (Hangs up.) Me to DS, feeling somewhat coerced: Go get the tickets, and I'll have a look at them (thinking I could maybe offer her £25).
DS comes back complaining about ND putting pressure on him to make me pay full price. This was what pushed me into giving them back, I was so annoyed at her trying to get DS on her side!
I mentioned that they were well-off to show that taking a £50 hit wasn't going to be a budget-breaker for them. They could buy me many times over. Had they been hard-up, I would have offered the ticket value upfront myself.
And yes, they live in Belgium, but only because that's where they're currently posted. They are very much British!
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Post by mallie on Jul 31, 2014 19:32:25 GMT
Totally rude, I had the same thing happen to me once, you don't offer tickets then after the person accepts say you owe them money. yeah , I had it happen too. I also learned it's really common here to ask if a person is free at a certain time. You say yes, thinking you are being asked to socialize, only to find out that the asker wants you to do a big favor that will take hours and you just aired you were free . Most people have a hard time then just flat out refusing, so they get roped into it. I have refused, but I got burned on that one too many times since moving here. Lots of people know how to set you up.
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