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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 0:53:29 GMT
I'm appalled at your attitude toward the police officer. You got a ticket because you broke the law, and that's exactly what's supposed to happen. I'm not sorry you got a ticket. You deserved it.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Apr 25, 2016 1:01:28 GMT
I knew nothing of this law. The only one I heard on the radio is to move to the left lane if a cop pulls someone over and is on the right shoulder. The asshat could have let me off with a warning. Especially considering my record. Nice way to make money for your county. The ticket was for impeding traffic and improper lane usage. My cruise control was set at 76. So I wasn't impeding traffic. The cop was on a motorcycle and it didn't look like a cop cycle. He asked me why I didn't notice him following me. I told him I thought it was just some motorcycle driving behind me. WTF. Cindy If your cruise was set at 76 and a motorcycle was following you, how do you know he wasn't trying to pass you? In all actuality, 76 could have easily been impeding traffic, especially in the areas of the state where there are motor cycle cops. Emergency vehicles sometimes need to get by, no matter what the posted speed limit is. So now you're not perfect anymore - you're just like the rest of us. That's just life. It's a bummer, and a crappy way of having to spend money, but it sure sounds like you were doing what you were ticketed for. I'd be deliriously happy if our law like this was regularly enforced.
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Post by peano on Apr 25, 2016 1:01:40 GMT
I guess I'm ignorant because I thought this was sort of a universal, but not often enforced law. I can't imagine it being enforced in my tri-state area because of traffic congestion. I don't often see self-enforced speed monitoring in left-lane drivers; it's more like people plotz themselves in the left lane and kind of zone out, until they realize they've got a massive line of annoyed drivers behind them, and then get over into the middle lane.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 25, 2016 1:20:03 GMT
I think you've done so well to never have a ticket before now! That's been the law here here for as long as I can remember, and I've been driving for over 30 years. (Although here it's Keep Left seeing that we drive on the left side of the road. ) If you get pulled over you lose 2 demerit points, but I'm not sure how much the fine would be.
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Post by fredfreddy on Apr 25, 2016 1:34:41 GMT
I got my one ticket 10 years ago....on a downhill speed trap...going 65 when it suddenly changed to 55...and was pulled over along with 7 other people...in a village that I'm sure needed the $$$.
Best part! On Mother's day!!! with all my kids in the back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 1:36:39 GMT
For driving in the left lane on the freeway. Apparently there is a new law in Michigan. Stay right unless you are passing. The cop asked me how my driving record was and I told him that it was excellent. He checked it out and came back to my car and said "you do have an excellent record. Here's your ticket. Fucker!!! BUT. He said that I won't have any points and it wouldn't even go to the DMV. "Just call the number at the bottom of the ticket and pay the fine". He couldn't even tell me how much the fine was so I have to call tomorrow to see how much this is going to effing cost me. WTF kind of law is this? I am so pissed. Really. You have nothing better to do. I was 2 hours from home and the rest of the way home I can't tell you how many people were driving in the left lane for miles and miles. Or how many people were swerving into my lane while looking at their phones. What a stupid ticket to get to ruin my perfect record. Cindy It is a super new law that was passed sometime before March 2011.... 5 years ago... www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/03/traffic_talk_is_is_legal_to_tr.html According to this site The law has been on the books since before 1949
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Post by cindosha on Apr 25, 2016 1:38:07 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it.
Get a new outlook on life.
Cindy
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Post by cindosha on Apr 25, 2016 1:45:50 GMT
Also...there are no signs stay right except to pass posted where I live. I've never seen one nor have I heard a commercial on TV or the radio where I live. Maybe it's working itself east. I am 2 hours from Grand Rapids where I got the ticket. The cop told me that they were out that weekend enforcing this law. He could have given me a warning. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning.
Cindy
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Post by myshelly on Apr 25, 2016 1:48:31 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy Umm...you did break the law. How did you not deserve a ticket?
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Apr 25, 2016 1:51:02 GMT
When did it become a right to get a warning simply because you think you deserve it? This is why I think that all warnings should stop. People have just gotten to the place that they feel they always deserve one. You admit you were speeding. That right there is a violation of the laws that your state agreed to. Don't hate the person who has to enforce the laws because they are enforcing them on you. You are responsible for knowing the driving laws in your state. Ignorance is not an excuse and as its been pointed out many times in this thread, it was not a NEW law....just one you didn't know about.
Getting a warning is not your right. You do not deserve anything because you have a good driving record. You disobeyed the laws, you got caught, you suffer whatever consequences come your way.
Does it suck to get a ticket? Yes. But the person you should be irritated at is yourself, not the officer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 1:58:00 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy You are a piece of work! "I didn't deserve it." Holy privileged above the law idiotic attitude! I have no respect for that. Ignorance of a law is no excuse. Go ahead and bitch at me too. You have no leg to stand on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 1:58:16 GMT
Also...there are no signs stay right except to pass posted where I live. I've never seen one nor have I heard a commercial on TV or the radio where I live. Maybe it's working itself east. I am 2 hours from Grand Rapids where I got the ticket. The cop told me that they were out that weekend enforcing this law. He could have given me a warning. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning. Cindy Or maybe it is time to start requiring a driving test every decade so drivers don't get caught by surprise over laws that existed before they ever started to drive.
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Post by mari on Apr 25, 2016 2:06:38 GMT
Also...there are no signs stay right except to pass posted where I live. I've never seen one nor have I heard a commercial on TV or the radio where I live. Maybe it's working itself east. I am 2 hours from Grand Rapids where I got the ticket. The cop told me that they were out that weekend enforcing this law. He could have given me a warning. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning. Cindy There doesn't need to be a sign or a commercial to hold people accountable for the law. If you are driving, you need to know the laws. You're lucky you didn't get a speeding ticket, too, since you were also speeding....
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 25, 2016 2:29:04 GMT
Also...there are no signs stay right except to pass posted where I live. I've never seen one nor have I heard a commercial on TV or the radio where I live. Maybe it's working itself east. I am 2 hours from Grand Rapids where I got the ticket. The cop told me that they were out that weekend enforcing this law. He could have given me a warning. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning. Cindy Or maybe it is time to start requiring a driving test every decade so drivers don't get caught by surprise over laws that existed before they ever started to drive. I have often wished this would happen I've heard we have had a few weekends where the 'keep right except to pass' law has been emphasized. I see so many accidents waiting to happen due to people trying to get around the left lane cruisers I'm really glad to see it enforced more often. I routinely see more than one person have to move 1-3 lanes to the right to get around someone blocking the passing lane. I've gotten tickets for everything from speeding, to a headlight out, to snow blocking my license plate. The snow ticket being on Thanksgiving. I get being upset but I think you are upset with the wrong person.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 25, 2016 2:31:11 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy Wow. You are one entitled bitch. If you came across to the officer like you are coming across here, no wonder you got a ticket.
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Post by luckyexwife on Apr 25, 2016 2:39:01 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy Did you also get a ticket for speeding? If not, you should be grateful that the police officer (who was doing his job) did not give you a separate ticket for speeding.
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Post by holly on Apr 25, 2016 2:40:30 GMT
My step mother had a perfect driving record for many, many years, until she got a ticket for having fuzzy dice hanging from her rear view mirror. No speeding or other laws broken, just that. Everyone could have a perfect driving record but eventually you get caught because no one is perfect. We've all broken driving laws, however minor. Not stopping before the limit line at the intersection, not fully stopping at a stop sign, going through a yellow light, going 72 when the speed limit is 70.
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Post by mcscrapper on Apr 25, 2016 2:43:50 GMT
Also...there are no signs stay right except to pass posted where I live. I 've never seen one nor have I heard a commercial on TV or the radio where I live. Maybe it's working itself east. I am 2 hours from Grand Rapids where I got the ticket. The cop told me that they were out that weekend enforcing this law. He could have given me a warning. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning. Cindy Not knowing the laws does not mean you don't have to follow them. 76 in a 70mph zone IS breaking the law and you are lucky you didn't get a speeding ticket. There is also no "rule" saying that a warning is to be given first. I also think your attitude towards a LEO is a huge issue. People want LEOs to police but don't actually want them to police if it affects them. We WANT and need cops for a reason. If he lets you off with a warning, he has to let everyone else off with a warning that is breaking laws they claim they didn't know existed. A ticket sucks but it truly is not the end of the world.
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Post by chlerbie on Apr 25, 2016 2:46:24 GMT
It sucks to get a ticket and it's easy to tell yourself that "I didn't deserve it", but if you're breaking the law, you do. And I'm not saying that in a self-righteous way, as I sometimes choose to speed, etc. But if I decide to do that, I would need to accept the consequences. Using the left lane just to pass has always been around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 2:52:04 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy Considering the source of the advice, I think I'll stick with my current outlook. Thanks, though!
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Post by MizIndependent on Apr 25, 2016 3:06:48 GMT
Scrubologist.....wow. Bitchy much??? Read my post. If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. The speed limit was 70. I was going 76. I wasn't going slower than the right lane. I was going faster than the right lane. I didn't have any attitude with the officer. I was very polite as I had my 18 year old son with me. I didn't deserve it. Get a new outlook on life. Cindy Ignorantia juris non excusat. And you did deserve it, you broke the law. It sucks but, there it is. How did you not notice the cop behind you? Seriously.
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Post by YooHoot on Apr 25, 2016 3:16:31 GMT
Wait....you didn't notice the motorcycle behind you? I bet if you had moved over to allow someone to pass he probably wouldn't have pulled you over. Sounds like you ride in the left lane oblivious to what is going around you. THAT is probably why he ticketed you.
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Post by M in Carolina on Apr 25, 2016 3:26:04 GMT
Wow. I was sympathetic until you got all entitled and started calling other peas nasty names.
There's a lot of driving laws that aren't posted and advertised in the news/radio, etc. but you're still supposed to know them.
It's so annoying to be trying to pass people and come up on someone in the left lane with cruise control who's oblivious to everything going on.
My mom is one of the traffic vigilantes. I hate riding with her. She shakes her finger at people (that can get you shot here) and insists on putting the cruise control on the speed limit.
I wouldn't let her drive in Chicago where only going the speed limit can get you run over.
I got a ticket on the freeway in Detroit one day. I had a perfect record before then--my first car was a Mustang convertible, so I was a cop magnet. Years later I was on the freeway with cruise control set, but I didn't realize that the speed limit was lower on that stretch--the increased limit sign was right in front of me when I got pulled over.
I absolutely was in the wrong, and admitted it to the police officer. What was annoying was that he actually told me that because my address wasn't in the village where he was an officer (Allen Park) that he was going to give me a ticket. I still deserved it. He thanked me for my nice attitude.
I have a lot of family members who are law enforcement. The way they're treated really sucks. My step mom's sister is highway patrol. The stories she tells are horrifying.
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 25, 2016 4:47:28 GMT
It's great you had a clean record...but you were pulled over while breaking two laws (left lane driving and speeding)...you were lucky he only gave you the ticket for the left lane driving. You should be thanking him.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 25, 2016 4:47:57 GMT
it's more like people plotz themselves in the left lane and kind of zone out, until they realize they've got a massive line of annoyed drivers behind them, and then get over into the middle lane. I've always thought the same thing. Not that they were trying to be the speed police.
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Post by gar on Apr 25, 2016 7:12:59 GMT
Your thought process is interesting.....
You were breaking 2 laws....and have done regularly for years apparently but feel so badly wronged for being ticketed for *one* offense. You were ignorant of even common sense use of the road, let alone a law which means you stay right unless passing and blame the fact that there wasn't a sign....if there was a written sign of every road law people would be crashing all over the place as they tried to read them all! You did not notice a police vehicle behind you but that wasn't your fault because it didn't look right. You feel you're entitled to a let-off. You feel that in *your* case the officer should not have enforced the law.
Unfortunately you did deserve it, completely. Your clean record is obviously just luck since you've got away with it for so long.
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Post by Merge on Apr 25, 2016 10:47:43 GMT
As someone pointed out above, all 50 states have some variation on this law, and Michigan has had it on the books for quite some time. I'm frankly surprised that someone with a "perfect driving record" wasn't aware of it. Aside from being the law, it's just common driving courtesy. From your posts, it sounds as if you had people (including a cop on a motorcycle) behind you and were impeding the faster traffic in that lane with your cruise control set at 76. You annoyed the cop with this behavior, and I can guarantee you annoyed anyone else that was behind you by not following the law and simple courtesy. Thus, you got a ticket.
Now I know what happens to the entitled kids at school who think they should never have a consequence for breaking rules when they grow up.
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Post by cindosha on Apr 25, 2016 10:52:17 GMT
Well that went south fast. Perhaps I use the wrong choice of words. I didn't mean to sound entitled. I simply meant that based on my 40 years of a perfect driving record he could've let me off with a warning. I'm pissed that that type of a ticket ruined my driving record. I truly did not know that that law existed and I know that ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law however, it would've been nice to just have a warning.
That's all.
Cindy
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 25, 2016 11:02:30 GMT
If I blatantly broke the law, that's one thing. I didn't know it was a law. 40 years of driving without a ticket?? He should have given me a warning. I've gone 55 years without robbing a bank, so I expect just a friendly warning that it is indeed against the law when I do.
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 25, 2016 11:11:58 GMT
It's a moronic law. The lane is there. USE IT. There is no reason to waste a perfectly good lane on "passing only". I'd be pissed and I would drive the two hours to fight the damn thing just on principle that the law is stupid and slows traffic. I'm surprised that there are people who actually think the law is a good idea. I've never heard of anyone actually using the left lane for passing only. Why bother having the lane if that's all it's for? Gridlock is bad enough, let's not make it worse by taking a lane out for stupid things like passing only.
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