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Post by cindyupnorth on May 1, 2016 15:25:41 GMT
So what did everyone think?? I've read the books so long ago, I can't remember if they are going out of order?
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Post by sugarmama on May 1, 2016 16:14:46 GMT
What was that stuff that grossed Mary Hawkins out at the hospital? It was white and Claire put it on a man's chest.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on May 1, 2016 16:20:16 GMT
Grease made from the rendered fat of condemned criminals.
So tired of every series needing a rape or two.
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Post by JustTricia on May 1, 2016 16:22:24 GMT
It seems to me the whole second series is out of order or has a change to it.
I really liked this episode, much more than last week's.
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Post by chaosisapony on May 1, 2016 16:23:00 GMT
So tired of every series needing a rape or two. I remember when I read the books a few years back thinking the series was awfully rapey. It got to the point of being super formulaic and wasn't even dramatic anymore. Like "Oh look, another rape." I'd love to hear Diana Gabaldon's thought process behind so much rape. Last night's episode was the best one of this season so far for me. It actually kept my attention. Season 2 has thus far been awfully boring. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 1, 2016 16:35:29 GMT
Yea, so much rape is because there's a lot of it in the books.
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Post by Scrapbrat on May 1, 2016 17:01:13 GMT
It seems to me the whole second series is out of order or has a change to it. I really liked this episode, much more than last week's. It's actually quite close to the books. What has played out a bit differently is Jamie's recovery after Wentworth. In the book, he healed at the abbey, where they stayed for weeks and rekindled their relationship. In the show, they took off for France right away, so had Jamie experiencing flashbacks and trying to deal with his trauma in France. Nothing major has been out of order at all, though. |
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Post by MsKnit on May 1, 2016 18:40:23 GMT
So they cut out McRannock? I think I have the name right. The man whose cows were used as a distraction. Then, Claire was able to doctor Jamie before heading off to France.
McRannock (if I have the name right) and the trek past Wentworth was a fantastic part of the story.
They cut that out?
Disclaimer: I have only watched the first half of the first season.
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Post by finaledition on May 1, 2016 19:02:14 GMT
I watched on Friday and enjoyed the episode, but I didn't love it and watched it again because I couldn't quite figure out what the miss was for me for making it an outstanding episodeHere's my thing-Jamie is on a pedestal in my own head. Yes, I know this is how it played out in the book (similar enough), but those bite marks? Cmon Jamie, we expect better of you. So this is through no fault of the adaptation, just my own thing. I mean Jamie was wearing pants, not a kilt. You would have to pull your pants down to get bite marks. So this whole business with the whore-this just doesn't add up up for Jamie not having been an involved party.
But the rest of the story was a great adaptation.
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Post by finaledition on May 1, 2016 19:06:23 GMT
As for the rape, I will say that no matter the circumstances, it is always uncomfortable to view, but unlike Game of Thrones-it was not graphic and fortunately no nudity involved. And for those of us who read the book, this is a key element in the story. You can't take it out without significantly changing the storyline.
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Post by JustTricia on May 1, 2016 19:14:51 GMT
It seems to me the whole second series is out of order or has a change to it. I really liked this episode, much more than last week's. It's actually quite close to the books. What has played out a bit differently is Jamie's recovery after Wentworth. In the book, he healed at the abbey, where they stayed for weeks and rekindled their relationship. In the show, they took off for France right away, so had Jamie experiencing flashbacks and trying to deal with his trauma in France. Nothing major has been out of order at all, though. Everything so far regarding Black Jack Randall is COMPLETELY different than it was in the book. The whole start of the first book was left out of the series so far. Fergus was with them in the alley, I think. Those are just things I remember off the top of my head. I'm only as far in the book as the series is so far. I MUCH prefer the way they learned about Black Jack Randall in the book. While I'm okay with how the series is portraying it so far, I wonder how it will play out. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 19:48:40 GMT
I thought this was the best episode this season and the truest to the book.
I've been somewhat disappointed in the story changes this season but it's been absolutely beautiful to look at.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:05:35 GMT
It seems to me the whole second series is out of order or has a change to it. I really liked this episode, much more than last week's. The rape and Alex play an important part in the books. It involves Jack but not in the way you would think. |
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Post by annaintx on May 1, 2016 21:37:07 GMT
So they cut out McRannock? I think I have the name right. The man whose cows were used as a distraction. Then, Claire was able to doctor Jamie before heading off to France. McRannock (if I have the name right) and the trek past Wentworth was a fantastic part of the story. They cut that out? Disclaimer: I have only watched the first half of the first season. No, they did not. That was in Season 1 (Book 1). They changed it some, but they do get Jamie off to France much quicker in the show than they did in the book. The season now is Season 2, from the second book _Dragonfly in Amber_. |
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Post by Katie on May 1, 2016 21:45:30 GMT
I haven't read the books, but based on what Claire said about Frank's family history, I'm guessing Alex is shunned for his assumed attack on her, and when they find out about her being raped, Black Jack Randall steps in to save her honor, as a favor to his brother. Just my prediction.
I just watched the 4 episodes of this season all in a row and each one was as gripping as the next. I can't get enough of this show!
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Post by birukitty on May 1, 2016 23:57:27 GMT
Loved this episode! It's been so long since I read "Dragonfly in Amber" well, last year-that's long for me as I read 1-2 books a week. I was wondering last night why Claire would put Alex in charge of watching Mary instead of Murtagh who she knows and trusts. Never mind. I just pulled my copy off my bookshelf and yes that is indeed how the section in the book is written. I think it is to set it up for whatever happens next which I won't go into.
I also agree that this season is a bit slow but as each episode has aired it has gotten better and better I think. I do remember that "Dragonfly in Amber" wasn't my favorite book in the series but that I really loved the next one, "Voyager". I do hope that one gets filmed as well.
Debbie in MD.
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