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Post by beanbuddymom on May 1, 2016 20:16:50 GMT
Since I have been employed since the age of 14 (1981), I am having a hard time dealing with filling out an application thoroughly for a state job I am applying for.
It states list ALL and to attach additional forms as needed.
Also I am really blanking at how much I was paid way back then. Should I just put unknown or what would be a professional thing to write there?
I had oddball retail jobs and restaurant jobs from 1981 to 1987 when I really started work and moved around a lot. I've had steady long periods of work since 1996, however, only 2 employers during that time.
I mean, just fill out as best as I can with the best dates records I can for the teen early 20 years? How does one address that type of thing? I haven't had to fill out a formal job application since 1996 so this is pretty daunting - the other 2 jobs since then were just based on my cover letter, resume type of situation, and my current subcontract work didn't require that of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:36:23 GMT
I wouldn't leave them off, but put as much information as you can remember. I would just put a ?/unknown if you don't remember the payrate. And
"estimate" or "est" next to the dates or an asterisk that you could explain later.
You might also read the paragraph(s) that you sign at the end of the application because usually it states something about failure to disclose.
So I advise doing your best to remember what you can. No it might not matter now, but if the job requires any kind of special clearance, it might matter. And government/state/federal jobs tend to be the worst about wanting this information.
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Post by beanbuddymom on May 1, 2016 20:45:43 GMT
I wouldn't leave them off, but put as much information as you can remember. I would just put a ?/unknown if you don't remember the payrate. And "estimate" or "est" next to the dates or an asterisk that you could explain later. You might also read the paragraph(s) that you sign at the end of the application because usually it states something about failure to disclose.
So I advise doing your best to remember what you can. No it might not matter now, but if the job requires any kind of special clearance, it might matter. And government/state/federal jobs tend to be the worst about wanting this information. Yeah that's the part that had me kind of reeling. I mean, for the most part, good employment record, etc. but one time in my early teens my dad made me quit my job at Friendly's after working there for 2 weeks and then one time I worked for one day with a maid service in my early twenties. They're probably not going to care but I am guessing I need to be as specific and inclusive as possible, based on their threat about failing to disclose and all. It's literally for a secretary/clerk in one of the state offices so nothing classified but yeah, I can see they likely have strict policies for a reason and just have to cross their Ts and dot their Is. My husband works for federal government and the extent he went through to apply for his job made me tell him, "No, God, No, please no.. No!" In my best Michael Scott when he finds out Toby is back voice. So this is not THAT bad but yeah, figured I would have to go on a little self reflection here, since I thought I had all my previous employer from the 80s in my files but they seem to be long gone from one of our moves. Sigh. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 0:17:55 GMT
One reason why I never want to work in a government position. It does seem ridiculous for the job you are applying for! The general consensus is that most employers shouldn't use criminal background more than 7 years old, so not sure why they would need that full history for non-criminals. But a lot they do doesn't make sense!
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 2, 2016 2:25:18 GMT
I've been job hunting off/on recently and I hate applications. Why in the hell do they need my high school address? Or even addresses of my references? I don't know where most people live! Good luck on your job hunt!
I would guess to the best of your knowledge.
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Post by quiltz on May 2, 2016 2:33:57 GMT
I've been job hunting off/on recently and I hate applications. Why in the hell do they need my high school address? Or even addresses of my references? I don't know where most people live! Good luck on your job hunt! I would guess to the best of your knowledge. They need the addresses so that they can check to make sure that your references are real and maybe to mail them a form, using the US Mail system. Same with your high school address, to prove authenticity. For one job application, I was asked for a copy of my High School transcript and my university transcript. Nothing unusual of any of these requests. |
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 2, 2016 3:00:19 GMT
I've been job hunting off/on recently and I hate applications. Why in the hell do they need my high school address? Or even addresses of my references? I don't know where most people live! Good luck on your job hunt! I would guess to the best of your knowledge. They need the addresses so that they can check to make sure that your references are real and maybe to mail them a form, using the US Mail system. Same with your high school address, to prove authenticity. For one job application, I was asked for a copy of my High School transcript and my university transcript. Nothing unusual of any of these requests. Wow, learned something new today. Thanks for that info. |
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Post by manda on May 2, 2016 3:21:31 GMT
Go to the social security administration office or online and request a list/report of all previous employers. Can't recall the turnaround time but they can and do provide it for exactly this reason.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 2, 2016 3:39:13 GMT
I just had to do this as well. I went back through all kinds of paperwork, old check stubs, diaries, anything that gave me a clue to all the jobs I had. They are looking to see if you leave anything out from what I was told, maybe on purpose. I even submitted a blank paper with some of the jobs on it and any information I could remember. On pay, I just went with a best guess and saying it was a guess. It was kinda easy to remember some of them.. especially minimum wage jobs and waitressing....other jobs were a bit difficult. I also asked my sister and parents if they had any inkling to jobs or at least hinted to me.. My hubby also was helpful.....
Edited to add.. yeah I listed my one week employment at Applebee's in 1987, also a volunteer job I had at a hospital and I have no idea what the hospital name was.. but I put it down as best as possible. Heck some of my employment the company is not even around anymore... my first main job was at TWA (airlines).. WHO would they even call on a job like that?
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Post by dealsamongus on May 2, 2016 3:55:34 GMT
I would imagine that the most recent going back would be good. I mean they can expect people to remember addresses, and jobs from 30 years prior - can they?
I know my hubby just got a new job about a year ago, they were concerned why it took him 1.5 to find a job (tried starting a company) then the years before. It all depends on the job I suppose.
Jennifer
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Post by workingclassdog on May 2, 2016 3:59:20 GMT
I would imagine that the most recent going back would be good. I mean they can expect people to remember addresses, and jobs from 30 years prior - can they? I know my hubby just got a new job about a year ago, they were concerned why it took him 1.5 to find a job (tried starting a company) then the years before. It all depends on the job I suppose. Jennifer Oh yeah, they want everything! I even emailed the HR girl at the job I was applying for (government) and she said absolutely put everything you can remember down to your first job. Even if you can't remember some of it just put it down. I took it seriously and put even the most unimportant things down just in case. Better safe than sorry. |
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Post by nlwilkins on May 2, 2016 6:15:28 GMT
Go to the social security administration office or online and request a list/report of all previous employers. Can't recall the turnaround time but they can and do provide it for exactly this reason. You can possilby get this online. Go to www.ssa.gov/myaccount/ |
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