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Post by cindyupnorth on May 16, 2016 18:28:28 GMT
Ok. I find this fascinating. Esp after my what is business casual ?. SOoooo...jeans are absolutely not business casual to most on my thread. A few started to chime in later that it was ok. BUT, a person on TV, that has the same expectations, can wear a sparkly club dress, and we shouldn't care? and that's sexist? Now if a MALE meteorologist wore a tight tank top and jeans and gave the weather, I would have a problem with that too.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 18:32:21 GMT
She says it was a joke from her cohost, not an order from the network. While he may have been a little cave man-ish in the joke, it's totally consistent with the circus that is that entire news team. They've always been like that with each other, so I am inclined to believe them when they say that's all that was.
But the dress was ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 18:35:07 GMT
The wardrobe issue should have been dealt with during the make up time/session. Both anchor Michelle Dube & weather person Dana Levension (sp?) on CTV TORONTO NEWS, wear sleeveless dresses all the time. It is hot under the lights in the studio. Most of the time the clothing is sponsored by a company & details/credits are shown in the credits ending the show. "most of the time" - hahahahaha Most local newscasters (not talking about national news) have to buy their own clothes and do their own hair and makeup. Of course, the station happily brings in "image consultants" to tell them what to buy and how to do their hair and make up.
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Post by quiltz on May 16, 2016 18:41:01 GMT
The wardrobe issue should have been dealt with during the make up time/session. Both anchor Michelle Dube & weather person Dana Levension (sp?) on CTV TORONTO NEWS, wear sleeveless dresses all the time. It is hot under the lights in the studio. Most of the time the clothing is sponsored by a company & details/credits are shown in the credits ending the show. "most of the time" - hahahahaha Most local newscasters (not talking about national news) have to buy their own clothes and do their own hair and makeup. Of course, the station happily brings in "image consultants" to tell them what to buy and how to do their hair and make up. I live in the GTHA area and can only relare to the news coverage that I watch. I don't know how smaller TV stations operate.
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Post by used2scrap on May 16, 2016 18:45:53 GMT
The wardrobe issue should have been dealt with during the make up time/session. Both anchor Michelle Dube & weather person Dana Levension (sp?) on CTV TORONTO NEWS, wear sleeveless dresses all the time. It is hot under the lights in the studio. Most of the time the clothing is sponsored by a company & details/credits are shown in the credits ending the show. Why aren't the male anchors sleeveless then if it is because of the heat???
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Post by katlady on May 16, 2016 18:55:59 GMT
I have seen pics of a male anchor, sitting behind the desk looking all professional in a jacket and tie, but the part they don't show you is that he is wearing shorts! Back to women meteorologist, I think there is a double standard where they are concerned. They are supposed to be beautiful, sexy, etc. but the male meteorologist don't have to look like Brad Pitt.
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Post by littlemama on May 16, 2016 18:58:03 GMT
At least it wasn't green or she would have turned into the map. They should have handed her the sweater once her segment was finished. I majored in journalism with a focus in broadcasting and even tank tops were frowned upon for on air reporting. Actually, this is why she was wearing that particular dress. The dress she originally planned to wear had something close enough to green that it was making her disappear. I'm not sure why there was a cocktail dress readily available though. LOL.
That being said, the dress was a little odd for the occasion, but I did not think it was revealing or inappropriate any moreso than a sundress would have been.
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Post by quiltz on May 16, 2016 18:58:09 GMT
The wardrobe issue should have been dealt with during the make up time/session. Both anchor Michelle Dube & weather person Dana Levension (sp?) on CTV TORONTO NEWS, wear sleeveless dresses all the time. It is hot under the lights in the studio. Most of the time the clothing is sponsored by a company & details/credits are shown in the credits ending the show. Why aren't the male anchors sleeveless then if it is because of the heat??? I have no idea why, This is not an issue with me so I will not bother to look into this any further. I have zero issues with CTV, CBC or GLOBAL, which are the main souces of news broadcasts in the GTHA area. They aew all very professional with how they deliver the news, their on-air profile & conduct. Maybe because Canadians do not the 'sensational' aspect in their delivery of the days events & weather& sports.
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Post by pjaye on May 16, 2016 18:59:06 GMT
SOoooo...jeans are absolutely not business casual to most on my thread. A few started to chime in later that it was ok. BUT, a person on TV, that has the same expectations, can wear a sparkly club dress It's TV, where is the law that TV presenters all wear business casual? That's a ridiculous analogy. Plebs like us who work for big companies have to play be certain dress code rules, each workplace decides what is OK and what isn't...what might be perfectly acceptable in one environment wouldn't be in other. I'm a nurse and there ARE rules about how I dress and I definitely could not turn up in jeans, not could I wear a sparkly dress, I'd be sent home. and if I did it repeatedly I'd get some sort of formal reprimand and potentially lose my job. That is TV, there aren't the same dress code restrictions, sure it might be news, but it's still the entertainment business. If I want to know what the weather will be tomorrow I'll watch to get that information and I don't care if the man or the woman who tells me that is wearing jeans & t-shirt or a ball gown. If the producers or whoever is in charge don't have a problem with the outfit and there's no inappropriate bits hanging out...I don't see why a sparkly dress is an issue. It's a totally different business and as much as it sucks for the rest of us, those sorts of industries simply do not have the same rules as most of the ones we work for.
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Post by gailoh on May 16, 2016 18:59:11 GMT
I think the dress is inappropriate for being a news anchor. It is a party dress, not business dress. BUT, I also think her clothing choice should have been addressed off camera either before or after she did her bit. I agree...
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Post by tduby1 on May 16, 2016 19:37:23 GMT
I don't honestly understand how she doesn't have a wardrobe that specifically works with a green screen - she only had two choices and this was one of them? I mean aren't weather-casters in front of the green screen 90+% of the time? I just don't see where that dress is professional for any on-air personality unless she is covering a charity event or an awards show. Have to wonder why it was even in her work wardrobe as a choice. I haven't seen male newscasters dressed in anything less than professional clothes, or I would comment on it. I can't even come up with a likely example because I haven't seen one. My understanding is the issue wasn't apparent until she was at the studio ready to go on air. She has said the dress isn't even hers,nit was something sitting around the studio.
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Post by hop2 on May 16, 2016 19:46:07 GMT
I think the dress is inappropriate for being a news anchor. It is a party dress, not business dress. BUT, I also think her clothing choice should have been addressed off camera either before or after she did her bit. exactly what volt said. Not business wear - weather men have to wear shirts & ties so let's skip the cocktail dress. She wasn't alone in the studio walking over to the weather wall it was very unprofessional to do that to her in air as if she's exposed or something. The dress is not shocking, the straps are probably wide enough to pass a highschool dress code. Who bothers to IMMEDIATELY email a news station over a nice cocktail dress???
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Post by flute4peace on May 16, 2016 19:54:30 GMT
I don't honestly understand how she doesn't have a wardrobe that specifically works with a green screen - she only had two choices and this was one of them? I mean aren't weather-casters in front of the green screen 90+% of the time? I just don't see where that dress is professional for any on-air personality unless she is covering a charity event or an awards show. Have to wonder why it was even in her work wardrobe as a choice. I haven't seen male newscasters dressed in anything less than professional clothes, or I would comment on it. I can't even come up with a likely example because I haven't seen one. I have, but it's been during unexpected middle-of-the-night weather emergencies, not during a planned news-cast, so isn't relevant.
Appropriateness aside, I think she looked great in the dress!
I really hope it was a joke/prank.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 20:04:10 GMT
This news team is famous (infamous) for its on-air hijinks, pranks, jokes, and general silliness. This is completely in character for them.
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Post by georgiapea on May 16, 2016 20:47:00 GMT
Totally not a good choice. She should look professional, not like she's out at a club.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 23:07:01 GMT
Women complain about hitting a glass ceiling and not being able to advance. "Hijinks" like this is part of the reason why. No matter how this is diced she comes off as a dither-head.
She is a 10 year veteran on the news. She should KNOW when a dress is going to cause green screen issues. A kid right out of college might not know but after 10 years...? If some some reason she has vision issues and can't realize when a color is going to be problematic on the green screen she needs to keep an outfit in her office that is 100% appropriate "tried and true" instead of a sequined cocktail dress.
By letting her self be the butt end of the joke when she wants to move into a bigger market or given more responsibility THIS will be remember. And she may very well be passed by for lack of common sense for something so basic as how to dress for your job. It won't be remembered as a joke. I tend to thing the "it was a joke" is a smoke screen for realizing they shouldn't have shamed her on air like that.
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Post by alexa11 on May 16, 2016 23:23:50 GMT
I think the dress is inappropriate for being a news anchor. It is a party dress, not business dress. BUT, I also think her clothing choice should have been addressed off camera either before or after she did her bit. Did someone not see her BEFORE she went on camera??? Covering her up on air was just WRONG! I don't think it was funny at all. I would have been pissed if I were her.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 16, 2016 23:26:19 GMT
I notice that meteorologist tend to fall in a different category than the anchor people. The one for our local channel often wears the strangest combination. And it seemed at one time weather girls were picked for their looks. Totally opposite here. Our weather people (ladies) all dress very nicely -not revealing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 16, 2016 23:33:47 GMT
I keep reading that "no one has asked a man to cover up/change on air" ....has there been a time where that would have been warranted?
Seriously--if you're going to argue a point that you think to be sexist or unfair because of gender, don't toss out the ubiquitous bull of "they've never asked a man to do that!"
Could it be that the men ALWAYS WEAR Suits, sports coats, dress shirts, ties and/or polo shirts? I've never seen a male anchor/newscaster dress revealing or offensively.
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Post by jayfab on May 16, 2016 23:37:02 GMT
This news team is famous (infamous) for its own air hijinks, pranks, jokes, and general silliness. This is completely in character for them. Thanks for the info. I kind of feel relieved.
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Post by stampinchick on May 17, 2016 0:17:47 GMT
I saw this earlier and couldn't believe she thought that was an appropriate dress to wear on air. Glad to read why she was wearing it.
Our local station had a woman who did the traffic reports several years ago. She had 3 favorite outfits. First one was a black and white striped shirt. Nothing revealing, I think it had a crew neck. But she had big boobs. And nobody should be wearing a striped shirt on tv to begin with. When it's kind of tight fitting over big boobs and the stripes are stretched in every which direction, it is even worse on a tv screen. It drove me bonkers every time she wore that shirt. Second outfit included a shrug. A shrug on somebody with big boobs is not going to look right. Especially on tv. Third favorite outfit had a blouse that had some ruffles in the boob area. Kind of reminded me of the prairie blouses from the early 80s. Women with big boobs who don't buy blouses that fit properly have gaps between buttons. I think she was only at the station about 6 months. I assumed they fired her because of how she dressed on air.
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Post by inkedup on May 17, 2016 0:19:46 GMT
Linky LinkFYI, the meteorologist says she was not asked to cover up. The situation was apparently a joke amongst coworkers.
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Post by MsChiff on May 17, 2016 1:01:15 GMT
It's ludicrous that they did that on air. It didn't feel like making fun of the complainers to me; it felt demeaning to her. The dress may not be ideal for on camera, but a dress that messed with the green screen would have been even worse, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Sometimes things aren't perfect. It's not like her boobs or lady garden were on display; it was the weather report in a less-than-ideal-on-air dress. WhyTF people complain about stuff like that, I will never understand. I have a friend who is a female news anchor and you would not believe the shit she is subjected to from viewers. When she had a baby, she didn't lose the weight fast enough. Or she came back to work too soon/not soon enough. Or her makeup is not enough/too much. Or her hair is not flattering/too long/too short/not stylish enough. Or she wore the same suit two times in a moth. Or when she lost weight, she lost too much. And on and on and on and on. It's unbelievable what the public thinks they are entitled to comment upon. And the anchors keep track - at the last count, the women get 12x the feedback from viewers on their appearance as the men do. I wonder if people complained because it was Saturday morning and their kids were watching. Or maybe they feel club attire is unprofessional, which it is, although I wouldn't think to complain to a station about it. Men likely don't get much feedback from viewers because they are usually dressed professionally in suits and ties. I find it a huge double standard that men are expected to wear suits and long pants while it's expected that women should be able to wear anything they wish with no comment- eg. no hose, no sleeves, cropped pants, short skirts, sandals, spike heels, etc. I'm sure if a male newsperson appeared on TV wearing shorts and a tank top, or a t-shirt and mantras, there would be negative comments. If women don't want comments, perhaps they should wear a suit every. single. day. My boss owns 5 suits and rotates through them every week and wears them with conservative solid color blouses, hose and mid heel pumps. The comments she receives, rare as they are, pertain to how professionally she presents herself. She is well respected in the industry and maybe some of that respect comes from the fact that she doesn't allow her attire to detract from her accomplishments.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 2:21:42 GMT
I keep reading that "no one has asked a man to cover up/change on air" ....has there been a time where that would have been warranted? Seriously--if you're going to argue a point that you think to be sexist or unfair because of gender, don't toss out the ubiquitous bull of "they've never asked a man to do that!" Could it be that the men ALWAYS WEAR Suits, sports coats, dress shirts, ties and/or polo shirts? I've never seen a male anchor/newscaster dress revealing or offensively. And this woman was not dressed revealingly or offensively either. I'm not going to make a case that the dress should be considered professional attire - it certainly is not - but it's most definitely not revealing or offensive either. Read my post upthread about the kind of things people comment on about women's appearance in the news profession. It's very very rarely about something being revealing or offensive.
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Post by freecharlie on May 17, 2016 2:33:28 GMT
I don't care what she wore. I don't see it as too revealing.
However, I totaly judge what people are wearing on TV, male and female. For instance, Christina A. sometimes looks beautiful and sometimes looks hideous. Back when Ceelo was on the voice, I regularly asked WTF is he wearing! I do it with Adam and Pharell too...Blake always looks the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 4:04:49 GMT
I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. Big deal, it was a beaded, strappy dress exposing her arms and shoulders. Nothing to complain about. Plenty of celebrities go on morning TV all dressed up like that. Female weather reporters are often more glam than news readers. I'm seriously sick of women judging others by what they wear.
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 17, 2016 6:36:34 GMT
I keep reading that "no one has asked a man to cover up/change on air" ....has there been a time where that would have been warranted? Seriously--if you're going to argue a point that you think to be sexist or unfair because of gender, don't toss out the ubiquitous bull of "they've never asked a man to do that!" Could it be that the men ALWAYS WEAR Suits, sports coats, dress shirts, ties and/or polo shirts? I've never seen a male anchor/newscaster dress revealing or offensively. I agree. At one job I had women could wear sun dresses but the guys always had to wear a suit jacket or sport coat. The women also got to wear sandals and bare legs, the men definitely didn't! It's interesting how often it's assumed that only women are judged or treated differently when it comes to dress codes.
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 17, 2016 7:12:31 GMT
I think she looked ridiculous. That's not work appropriate. Someone should have addressed it before she went on air.
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Post by lesserknownpea on May 17, 2016 7:34:22 GMT
LA news presenters are just a different breed. I visit my dad there frequently, and am always struck by the informality, the makeup on the women(lots), the glamorous or skimpy attire on the women.
My dad(in his 80's) loves it. He totally switches his news channels around to catch his favorite ladies.
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Post by AnotherPea on May 17, 2016 10:31:36 GMT
I keep reading that "no one has asked a man to cover up/change on air" ....has there been a time where that would have been warranted? Seriously--if you're going to argue a point that you think to be sexist or unfair because of gender, don't toss out the ubiquitous bull of "they've never asked a man to do that!" Could it be that the men ALWAYS WEAR Suits, sports coats, dress shirts, ties and/or polo shirts? I've never seen a male anchor/newscaster dress revealing or offensively. That's the same thing we hear about school dress codes. It's all about censoring girls. It's sexist. Ummm, no. The one time a boy had his bra showing, I sent him to the dean too. If a boy came to class with his butt cheeks hanging out, he'd go too. I am constantly amazed how girls MUST wear skimpy clothing because of the heat, but boys manage to get by fully clothed. Boys simply don't break dress code as much as girls. When they do, they're called on it.
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